Creation Scientists, please give me....

[Loudmouth]

Fossil records, carbon dating.....normal everyday Scientific experimentation.

Can you PLEASE be specific. For instance, there is currently a thread on endogenous retroviruses. In this thread concrete evidence of common ancestory between apes and men is explained. Is this "normal, everyday scientific experimentation" consistent with your translation of the bible?

The NIV likes to give examples of what the interpreters feel the words really mean.

Sea monsters gave them a little unease I guess.

The question is "why doesn't a literal translation of Genesis make you uneasy."

 

[Crayman]

I must admit you do seem to be dodging the question somewhat. Is there any evidence to support Creationism?
I'll be upfront I am a biological scientist, and I subscribe to a theistic evolotion view of history. And I must admit I have never yet seen a compelling well document argument supporting creationism. That doesn't mean there isn't one out there, and if there is, I for one would love to hear it.
I dont necessarily see why creationists and evololutionists need to be at odds with each other. We are both looking at the same process but from different angles. The biblical perspective is more concerned with who and why it is not a scientific document (it doesn't have chemical formulae and instructions on how to make a good mountain) and science is concerned with what and how and when (it isn't concerned with who and why, and nor should it be) both are valid frames of refernece and both bring something unique to the table.
The problem lies in that the questions we are all asking has become clouded by a contest of ideologies, both sides are tying to prove the other wrong - science is trying to refute theology and theology is trying to disprove science. Its all kind of self defeating really - we should all work together science & theology to look at who, why, where, when and how, then we will begin to glimpse the real picture. Cheers
Crayman

 

[Vance]

Crayman, can you post this over in the "Origins Theology" forum as a new post? That is very well said, I like the "who/why" v. "how/when" approach!

 

[Crayman]

Ok

Crayman