Creation Science Teacher!

[Nathan Poe]

No it just mean the actual debate is over and that he lost. You are still free to resort to ridicule and celebrate your intellectual superiority.

Oh goody. So the evening won't be a total loss...

 

[revolutio]

No no, we still have three goats, two virgins, and a badger to sacrifice. Then we can stay up late swapping manly stories and, in the morning, I'm makin' waffles.

 

[Nathan Poe]

No no, we still have three goats, two virgins, and a badger to sacrifice. Then we can stay up late swapping manly stories and, in the morning, I'm makin' waffles.

Waffles are good. Like pancakes, they're stackable, and you can pour stuff into the little holes if you want to.

 

[JohnR7]

Let's also not forget to mention that Hitler for instance was also a Christian, so you could put that one on your list as well Dj.

Hitler was a type of antichrist, that lead the false christian church astray. After the war there was a wave of repentance in Germany and there were some who returned to the christian faith. True Christians like Corrie Tan Boon and her family were put in prision in Nazi Germany. Corrie's sister and father died in prison, she excaped do to the grace of God and a adminstrative error.

 

[Mistermystery]

Hitler was a type of antichrist, that lead the false christian church astray. After the war there was a wave of repentance in Germany and there were some who returned to the christian faith. True Christians like Corrie Tan Boon and her family were put in prision in Nazi Germany. Corrie's sister and father died in prison, she excaped do to the grace of God and a adminstrative error.

To be honest I was only chipping in to falsify the argument that evolutionists somehow were responsible for every murder/death/war in the world. Also, True christians weren't put to prison in Nazi Germany. Sure, some Christians were but not all.

 

[Karl - Liberal Backslider]

Coming in a bit late here - Chris - they let you teach at a school and you can't correctly pluralise "evolutionist"?

It's "evolutionists" for your information. It's not even irregular, for f***'s sake.

I find this worrying. Thank God we don't have many of these pathetic so-called "Christian Schools" destroying the education of children over here.

 

[Data]

Wait - this guy is a some sort of.. teacher?

But but

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=teacher

teacher

\Teach"er\, n. 1. One who teaches or instructs; one whose business or occupation is to instruct others; an instructor; a tutor.

teach ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tch)
v. taught, (tôt) teach·ing, teach·es
v. tr.

1. To impart knowledge or skill to: teaches children.
2. To provide knowledge of; instruct in: teaches French.
3. To condition to a certain action or frame of mind.
4. To cause to learn by example or experience: an accident that taught me a valuable lesson.
5. To advocate or preach.

Ahh, number 3 and 5. I see, I was thinking of number 1 and 2. Oops.

 

[lucaspa]

Most evolutionist claim to use scientific methods when talking about biology. Yet with the peppered moth example (and the like) they simply bluff their way and try to sell it as proof. No-one is buying it. You start with a moth species ranging from dark to light before the experiment, you have a moth species ranging from dark to light during the experiment and at the end of the experiment you have a moth species ranging from dark to light.
OHH, YES NOW ITS ALL CLEAR.

Chris, the peppered moth is an example of observed natural selection at work. It was never claimed as an example of speciation. If you want speciation, go see the thread "Observed Speciation" that's on page 2 or 3 right now.

 

[lucaspa]

Simply the basis of Evolutionary "science" begins with a belief in the unification of "nature". Evolution is a nature based paradigm.
Creation is a technology based paradigm. That is grounded in the observable. (ALL THINGS ARE SEPARATE) separate programs.
Taking multiple things and imagining some sort of connection takes place in the mind only. Ultimately evolution leads to eco-terrorism and the destruction of technology based science. Evolution is anti-science.

1. Common ancestry -- unification -- is a conclusion from data, not a belief. However, notice that creationism believes in the unity of nature also -- unity imposed by a "common designer".

2. Science itself has the assumption of unity. However, science got that assumption originally from Judeo-Christianity, just like all the 5 assumptions about the universe are from Judeo-Christianity.

3. Yes, creationism (not Creation, creationism and creation are two different things) is a technology based paradigm. However, that paradigm was destroyed when Darwin discovered an unintelligent algorithm that makes design -- natural selection.

4. When you have a smooth observed transition between two things, there is no imagination of connection. Also, remember the hypothetico-deductive method that is science. Hypothesizing separateness has one set of consequences and hypothesizing connectedness has another set of consequences. We have found the consequences for connectedness but found consequences that can't be there for separateness.

Oh teacher, have you ever read Origin of the Species? Or any other evolutionary biology textbook? So far all your arguments have been the Argument from Ignorance.

 

[lucaspa]

Name calling, the only other tactic evolutionist are capable of. Oh yea if you are an evolutionist that makes you secular if you were not aware.

Emphatically, NO it does NOT! This is the oldest canard of creationism -- that anyone accepting evolution is secular! See:
http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/4650_statements_from_religious_orga_3_13_2001.asp

Christian denominations that accept evolution and reject creationism.

 

[lucaspa]

I expect that devolution is the next revolution and that you will be hearing more about it in the future. It is a different interpretation of the same evidence.

I doubt it, since molecular biology is showing changes in genes that result in new traits and new information. I take it as a teacher that you do not read the scientific literature. From your posts it sounds like you only read creationist literature. Do you sleep well at night knowing you lie to your students? Apparently your version of Christianity doesn't include the 9th Commandment.

New Information via Evolution
1. Birth of a unique enzyme from an alternative reading frame of the pre-existed, internally repetitious coding sequence", Ohno, S, Proc. Natl Acad. Sci. USA 81:2421-2425, 1984. Frame shift mutation yielded random formation of new protein, was active enzyme nylon linear oligomer hydrolase (degrades nylon) http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
2. http://home.earthlink.net/~misaak/guide/CB/CB904.html
3. http://home.earthlink.net/~misaak/guide/CB/CB101_2.html
4. http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/4661_issue_16_volume_5_number_2__4_10_2003.asp#New%20Proteins%20Without%20God's%20Help
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm5. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...2&dopt=Abstract6. http://www.genome.org/cgi/content/full/12/12/18547. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/inf...ipoprotein.html8. http://mbe.oupjournals.org/cgi/reprint/15/8/931.pdf9. http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/94/8/3485

 

[shenzhou]

and if i might plug my own thread on the evolution of new genes: http://www.christianforums.com/t81701

 

[Nathan Poe]

Wait - this guy is a some sort of.. teacher?

But but

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=teacher

teacher

\Teach"er\, n. 1. One who teaches or instructs; one whose business or occupation is to instruct others; an instructor; a tutor.

teach ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tch)
v. taught, (tôt) teach·ing, teach·es
v. tr.

1. To impart knowledge or skill to: teaches children.
2. To provide knowledge of; instruct in: teaches French.
3. To condition to a certain action or frame of mind.
4. To cause to learn by example or experience: an accident that taught me a valuable lesson.
5. To advocate or preach.

Ahh, number 3 and 5. I see, I was thinking of number 1 and 2. Oops.

I wouldn't worry too much about it; he got strangely tight-lipped once I asked about his alleged certification.

I wouldn't worry about him infecting any real educational institutions...

 

[lucaspa]

I wouldn't worry too much about it; he got strangely tight-lipped once I asked about his alleged certification.

I wouldn't worry about him infecting any real educational institutions...

But I bet we get his students from the small Christian schools for small Christians in here spouting off on creationism. We'll have to re-teach them.

 

[PaladinValer]

Folks, the troll seems to have left...don't feed it more least the troll comes back.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Any idea what he means by "fitness cost"?

Fitness cost, I think thats what I pay each month to workout at my local gym.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Let's also not forget to mention that Hitler for instance was also a Christian, so you could put that one on your list as well Dj.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

 

[vajradhara]

Geo means earth. Chronometer means clock. Earth clocks. there are hundreds of them that limit the earths age. The earth has to be around 6000 years.

 

[The Bellman]

heh, you make it sound like roleplay:

"You have invoked Adolf Hitler with power of thread ending +5. your argument now dies instantly, but other players may continue firing at you"

someone needs to make a card of that really, like the bevets one.

How's this?

 

[USincognito]

There is no such word in a biological sense. I believe it is a legal term.

Sigh. Kids these days don't know nothing.