Creation Science Evangelism

[Pete Harcoff]

I wish the creationists could make up their minds as to exactly what it is that we were doing ...

Plotting the downfall of Western civilization... duh.

 

[john crawford]

"So the phylogeny of human development inferred from the fossil record and later confirmed by genetics doesn't exist then? It's all a figment of my imagination?"

Well, if you could show me your version of the phylogeny of human development inferred from the fossil record and later confirmed by genetics, I may be inclined to give your hypothesis of human evolution some consideration, but from what I've read of phylogeny, it's all based on the assumption that human evolution has actually occurred, a presuppostion which I find preposterous from a scientific point of view.

"Out of curiosity here, how much research have you done on the subject of evolution and specifically human evolution? And what point are you trying to make here? (You're not part nihilist are you?)"

I've read Darwin's "Descent of Man" and have recognized the racial prejudice in his inferences of 'ape-to-man' hypothesis. I don't think I am a nihilist although I do believe in "Creation ex Nihilo."

 

[David Gould]

Plotting the downfall of Western civilization... duh.

I thought we did that last week.

What are we going to do tonight, Brain?

What we do every night, Pinky: plan to take over the world!

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Well, if you could show me your version of the phylogeny of human development inferred from the fossil record and later confirmed by genetics, I may be inclined to give your hypothesis of human evolution some consideration, but from what I've read of phylogeny, it's all based on the assumption that human evolution has actually occurred, a presuppostion which I find preposterous from a scientific point of view.

Well why do you find it preposterous from a scientific point of view? (emphasis intended)

I've read Darwin's "Descent of Man" and have recognized the racial prejudice in his inferences of 'ape-to-man' hypothesis.

His prejudices were inherited from the general mindset of Europeans at the time. They are hardly a result of his work on evolution.

 

[Jet Black]

Well, if you could show me your version of the phylogeny of human development inferred from the fossil record and later confirmed by genetics, I may be inclined to give your hypothesis of human evolution some consideration, but from what I've read of phylogeny, it's all based on the assumption that human evolution has actually occurred, a presuppostion which I find preposterous from a scientific point of view.

do you know anything about endogenous retroviral sequences and transposons, and did you look at winaces thread?

I've read Darwin's "Descent of Man" and have recognized the racial prejudice in his inferences of 'ape-to-man' hypothesis. I don't think I am a nihilist although I do believe in "Creation ex Nihilo."

that's a no to the previous questions then.

 

[Jet Black]

Just for reference, here is the evidence for human chimp/great ape common ancestry again.

http://christianforums.com/t40560

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Anyway, I'm heading to bed now (I didn't realize it was already 2:30 in the morning...). I'll pick up the discussion tomorrow... G'night all.

 

[ObbiQuiet]

Anyway, I'm heading to bed now (I didn't realize it was already 2:30 in the morning...). I'll pick up the discussion tomorrow... G'night all.

Lucid dreams. Sleep tight - don't let the creationists bite.

 

[john crawford]

Dino-Bird transitions:


Archaeopteryx
Confuciusornis
Sinornithosaurus
Liaoxiornis
Caudipteryx
Khaan
Heyuannia
Protarchaeopteryx
Sinosauropteryx
Bambiraptor
Microraptor
A Raven
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

can you tell me which are birds and which are dinosaurs?

No, and who the hell cares? What's paleontology got to do with the price of tea in China or the cost of living and dying in America?

Can you tell me what science is?

 

[Jet Black]

No, and who the hell cares? What's paleontology got to do with the price of tea in China or the cost of living and dying in America?

Can you tell me what science is?

woah, what an amazing tangent.... I stuck it through a couple of calculations, and it is undoubtedly the most orthogonal argument I have ever seen.

 

[troodon]

Chris320, the new thread is all finished. Go take a peek

No, and who the hell cares? What's paleontology got to do with the price of tea in China or the cost of living and dying in America?

Can you tell me what science is?

Woah, calm down there pal. Paleontology has nothing to do with the price of tea in China or the cost of living and dying in America.

My personal definition of "science" is that it is the study of the nature and history of the world we live in. I'm sure it falls short in many ways but, hey, it gets me by

 

[john crawford]

well bacteria have been seen evolving into multicellular organisms.

And then....?

Dying off.

 

[Jet Black]

And then....?

Dying off.

no, they do quite well then. remember though that in the modern day, being multicellular isn't all that useful on it's own, since there are a whole bunch of better adapted organisms. note thhough that this isn't the point - the point is that a large change has been observed happening, and given the correct environment, this would be very beneficial.

 

[john crawford]

Obviously, germs exist.

Have you every seen a germ or do you rely on biologists who tell you that these things do indeed exist?

I've been infected by them.

 

[David Gould]

I've been infected by them.

Have you?

How do you know that the effects you felt where the result of germ infection?

Were you able to see these germs infecting you or did someone tell you that that is what was happening?

 

[john crawford]

Your post betrays your igorance of the subject of evolution.

Your post betrays your ignorance of the subject of religion.

 

[David Gould]

Your post betrays your ignorance of the subject of religion.

Good job we are not talking about religion, then. This is a science forum, in case you missed it.

 

[john crawford]

Pete:

Scientific gobbleygook. Worse than religion.

 

[john crawford]

LOL.

In forensics they make the same "observations" that evolution does. Putting together evidence from the past.


(Anyone else leaning to our friend here being a troll?)

Sure, the bell trolls for thee.

www.ChristiansOnPatrol.US

 

[Jet Black]

what's with the gyrating mostly naked woman?