Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (3)

[Chajara]

Wait, if there's no Planned Parenthood, how will women like me afford their birth control? I'm working full time and have insurance, but birth control (especially the Nuvaring, which is what works best for me) is still ridiculously expensive, and I need it to keep my hormones in line or I'm missing work every month (I'll spare you the details, but suffice to say it's painful and even large amounts of ibuprofen can't get me through a bad day dealing with that crap.) It also keeps the babies away, which is a good thing for us at this time. (I don't know what I'll do with my stupid hormones when I have to go off birth control so I can have kids later.)

Would there be another organization that provides female reproductive care (pap smears, pregnancy tests, prenatal care and counseling, sexual advice, etc.) and birth control without the abortion part or are we just SOL?

Or is birth control just evil and going to be banned too?

Certainly, here you are.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Really? uhmmm ok...and Billy Graham, Charles Finney, Billy Sunday, Spurgeon, St. Patrick, Polycarp, Columba? You believe he's better then them?
tulc(not denigrating Edwards but best?)

YES!

S.I.T.H.O.A.A.G. is the the greatest sermon preached outside of the Holy Bible itself. Bar none! Hands down the greatest!!!

From the first word to the last, there is no sermon I have ever heard or read that can touch this masterpiece of a sermon. Spergeon comes in second place! He was the 'Prince of Preachers', after all.

Edwards was the Man!!!

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SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD

by Jonathan Edwards

-Their foot shall slide in due time- Deut. xxxii. 35​

In this verse is threatened the vengeance of God on the wicked unbelieving Israelites, who were God's visible people, and who lived under the means of grace; but who, notwithstanding all God's wonderful works towards them, remained (as ver. 28.) void of counsel, having no understanding in them. Under all the cultivations of heaven, they brought forth bitter and poisonous fruit; as in the two verses next preceding the text. The expression I have chosen for my text, Their foot shall slide in due time, seems to imply the following doings, relating to the punishment and destruction to which these wicked Israelites were exposed.
That they were always exposed to destruction; as one that stands or walks in slippery places is always exposed to fall. This is implied in the manner of their destruction coming upon them, being represented by their foot sliding. The same is expressed, Psalm lxxiii. 18. "Surely thou didst set them in slippery places; thou castedst them down into destruction."
2. It implies, that they were always exposed to sudden unexpected destruction. As he that walks in slippery places is every moment liable to fall, he cannot foresee one moment whether he shall stand or fall the next; and when he does fall, he falls at once without warning: Which is also expressed in Psalm lxxiii. 18, 19. "Surely thou didst set them in slippery places; thou castedst them down into destruction: How are they brought into desolation as in a moment!"
3. Another thing implied is, that they are liable to fall of themselves, without being thrown down by the hand of another; as he that stands or walks on slippery ground needs nothing but his own weight to throw him down.
4. That the reason why they are not fallen already, and do not fall now, is only that God's appointed time is not come. For it is said, that when that due time, or appointed time comes, their foot shall slide. Then they shall be left to fall, as they are inclined by their own weight. God will not hold them up in these slippery places any longer, but will let them go; and then at that very instant, they shall fall into destruction; as he that stands on such slippery declining ground, on the edge of a pit, he cannot stand alone, when he is let go he immediately falls and is lost.
The observation from the words that I would now insist upon is this. "There is nothing that keeps wicked men at any one moment out of hell, but the mere pleasure of God." By the mere pleasure of God, I mean his sovereign pleasure, his arbitrary will, restrained by no obligation, hindered by no manner of difficulty, any more than if nothing else but God's mere will had in the least degree, or in any respect whatsoever, any hand in the preservation of wicked men one moment.
The truth of this observation may appear by the following considerations.
1. There is no want of power in God to cast wicked men into hell at any moment. Men's hands cannot be strong when God rises up. The strongest have no power to resist him, nor can any deliver out of his hands.-He is not only able to cast wicked men into hell, but he can most easily do it. Sometimes an earthly prince meets with a great deal of difficulty to subdue a rebel, who has found means to fortify himself, and has made himself strong by the numbers of his followers. But it is not so with God. There is no fortress that is any defence from the power of God. Though hand join in hand, and vast multitudes of God's enemies combine and associate themselves, they are easily broken in pieces. They are as great heaps of light chaff before the whirlwind; or large quantities of dry stubble before devouring flames. We find it easy to tread on and crush a worm that we see crawling on the earth; so it is easy for us to cut or singe a slender thread that any thing hangs by: thus easy is it for God, when he pleases, to cast his enemies down to hell. What are we, that we should think to stand before him, at whose rebuke the earth trembles, and before whom the rocks are thrown down?

In the words of M.C. Hammer: "You can't touch this".

 

[Nathan Poe]

YES!

S.I.T.H.O.A.A.G. is the the greatest sermon preached outside of the Holy Bible itself. Bar none! Hands down the greatest!!!

From the first word to the last, there is no sermon I have ever heard or read that can touch this masterpiece of a sermon. Spergeon comes in second place! He was the 'Prince of Preachers', after all.

Edwards was the Man!!!

Your Idolatry is duly noted.

 

[christalee4]

Christian Reconstructionism, or an imposed theocracy would never work in this country; it's a fire and brimstone fantasy cooked up in the brains of a tiny minority of ultra-rightist, rigid hardliners, who feel powerless about their diminished roles in society as patriarchs. There are too many millions of taxpaying, hardworking liberals and minorities, including women, Hispanics, Muslims, Hindus, blacks, gays and lesbians, and their children and grandchildren, who won't willingly follow a hardcore dark Christian theocracy that calls for conversion or annihilation. The corporatists and conservative politicians don't support it either; you're outnumbered and outgunned. If I were you, I'd stop wasting my time on these fantasies and foolishness, and examine why you can't see others in a more humane light.

 

[tulc]

From the first word to the last, there is no sermon I have ever heard or read that can touch this masterpiece of a sermon. Spergeon comes in second place! He was the 'Prince of Preachers', after all.

Edwards was the Man!!!

Well yes I understand you like it.
tulc(kind of likes the quieter ones himself)

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

YES!

S.I.T.H.O.A.A.G. is the the greatest sermon preached outside of the Holy Bible itself. Bar none! Hands down the greatest!!!

Yep...just substitute the words "Jews" for "sinners" and it could have been given almost verbatim by Eichmann, Goebbels, or Himmler as an explanation for the "Final Solution."

 

[ReverendDG]

YES!

S.I.T.H.O.A.A.G. is the the greatest sermon preached outside of the Holy Bible itself. Bar none! Hands down the greatest!!!

From the first word to the last, there is no sermon I have ever heard or read that can touch this masterpiece of a sermon. Spergeon comes in second place! He was the 'Prince of Preachers', after all.

Edwards was the Man!!!

i forgot how utterly boring and asinine edwards' sermons are. what drivel.
i can almost see him frothing at the mouth shouting how god will smite down the sinners.
no wonder you like him SoF, he seems to share the same views

 

[TheReasoner]

We're all sinners. Every last one of us. Why kill some and let some go? We all deserve death just as much. That's why Jesus died in our stead.
It saddens me, nay grieves me, to see this spat upon like this.

 

[kiwimac]

I wish I could spread some of this on my plants....

 

[TheReasoner]

I wish I could spread some of this on my plants....

They would die. My friend, there's manure. Which can help fertilize things. And then there is this. More comparable to oil spills.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Christian Reconstructionism, or an imposed theocracy would never work in this country; it's a fire and brimstone fantasy cooked up in the brains of a tiny minority of ultra-rightist, rigid hardliners, who feel powerless about their diminished roles in society as patriarchs. There are too many millions of taxpaying, hardworking liberals and minorities, including women, Hispanics, Muslims, Hindus, blacks, gays and lesbians, and their children and grandchildren, who won't willingly follow a hardcore dark Christian theocracy that calls for conversion or annihilation. The corporatists and conservative politicians don't support it either; you're outnumbered and outgunned. If I were you, I'd stop wasting my time on these fantasies and foolishness, and examine why you can't see others in a more humane light.

Weak.

I see things perfectly!!! I see them through the Holy Bible.

Where abortion, homosexuality, pornography, murder, rape, kidnapping are all vile sickening sins!!!

I see just fine. It is you who need to see things clearly.

SOLA GRATIA.

 

[tulc]

i forgot how utterly boring and asinine edwards' sermons are. what drivel.
i can almost see him frothing at the mouth shouting how god will smite down the sinners.
no wonder you like him SoF, he seems to share the same views

Actually from what I understand from eye witness he simply read the sermon no shouting, no histrionics. "Sinners" fails to really show who Edwards was, not some early TV preacher, but a sincere man trying to do the best he could. Have you read any bios of him? I think there is a lot more to him then you think.
tulc(don't let SoF liking his sermon influence your thinking about Edwards)

 

[Paulos23]

Weak.

I see things perfectly!!! I see them through the Holy Bible.

Where abortion, homosexuality, pornography, murder, rape, kidnapping are all vile sickening sins!!!

I see just fine. It is you who need to see things clearly.

SOLA GRATIA.

Just as long and you know what filter your looking through.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Weak.

I see things perfectly!!! I see them through the Holy Bible.

Where abortion, homosexuality, pornography, murder, rape, kidnapping are all vile sickening sins!!!

I see just fine. It is you who need to see things clearly.

SOLA GRATIA.

We get it, Shield -- you're perfect.

Pride's the most sickening sin of all, btw.

 

[tulc]

I see things perfectly!!!

Too bad you weren't around when Paul the Apostle was here, he could have used your help clearing up those things he didn't understand.
tulc(just a thought)

 

[Chajara]

Alright, I give up. My question is obviously not going to be answered.

I'm just going to rest easy knowing that this little fantasy will never come true and I'll be able to stay on my birth control regardless of what some people think of Planned Parenthood.

 

[tulc]

Alright, I give up. My question is obviously not going to be answered.

I'm just going to rest easy knowing that this little fantasy will never come true and I'll be able to stay on my birth control regardless of what some people think of Planned Parenthood.

Obviously the problem is Johnathon Edwards didn't do a sermon on "Womens health in the hands of an indifferent CSA government" or this would have already been dealt with in the first 1000 post.
tulc(just a thought)

 

[tulc]

Sorry, double post but here's some quotes instead!
“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
-Sinclair Lewis


“The tendency to turn human judgments into divine commands makes religion one of the most dangerous forces in the world.”
-George Harkness



“No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means”
-George Bernard Shaw

“Jesus was not killed by atheism and anarchy. He was brought down by law and order allied with religion, which is always a deadly mix. Beware those who claim to know the mind of God and who are prepared to use force, if necessary, to make others conform. Beware those who cannot tell God’s will from their own. Temple police are always a bad sign.”
-Barbara Brown Taylor
tulc(loves quotes)

 

[Chajara]

Yeah, you're probably right, Tulc. Somehow I don't think Shield cares much about women and their menstrual problems. That's what we get for bringing sin into the world, right?

 

[tulc]

Yeah, you're probably right, Tulc. Somehow I don't think Shield cares much about women and their menstrual problems. That's what we get for bringing sin into the world, right?

We all pay in our own way because of that!
tulc(to quote Patsy Cline "...after all, he's just a man"!)