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Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (3)

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Chajara

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Sex is only to be in the context of Marriage; between a husband (man) and wife (woman). Fornication and adultery are vile sins. The Church is not going to give you birth control. YOU WILL CONTROL YOURSELF!!!

OH MY GOODNESS!?!? WHO EVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING??? SELF CONTROL???

GOD, your Family, and the Church will teach you about self control!!! Not how to enable sin!!! Hello!!! :wave:

SOLA FIDE.

Yes, but see the thing is lots of married couples who are not engaging in fornication or adultery are using birth control. Some people like to wait a year or two to get their stuff together before they have a baby, whether it be getting a new house or fixing the old one up. Birth control is not exclusively used so that people can boink like a bunch of little rabbits without having to worry about getting pregnant. Sometimes it's just used so you can get it on with your spouse without worrying about a pregnancy.

But you already knew that, right?

Edit: Also women have menstrual problems that are solved by the hormones in birth control. I need the stuff to stay sane and keep my job even if I'm not having sex. Do you even understand what some women go through each month? Do you want me to tell you? I can.
 
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Sex is only to be in the context of Marriage; between a husband (man) and wife (woman). Fornication and adultery are vile sins. The Church is not going to give you birth control. YOU WILL CONTROL YOURSELF!!!

OH MY GOODNESS!?!? WHO EVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING??? SELF CONTROL???

GOD, your Family, and the Church will teach you about self control!!! Not how to enable sin!!! Hello!!! :wave:

SOLA FIDE.

That is what your really after SoF, control. You want to control people, make them blind, thoughtless robots with no joy in life. For what end I have no idea, but I am glad there is no way for your or anyone to control another human's mind so that they can't think rebellious thoughts.
 
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Sex is only to be in the context of Marriage; between a husband (man) and wife (woman). Fornication and adultery are vile sins. The Church is not going to give you birth control. YOU WILL CONTROL YOURSELF!!!

Under penalty of hanging.

OH MY GOODNESS!?!? WHO EVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING??? SELF CONTROL???

Cerainly not you.

GOD, your Family, and the Church will teach you about self control!!! Not how to enable sin!!! Hello!!! :wave:

If you honestly believed for an instant that God, family, and Church were capale of this, then you wouldn't have a lynching fetish in your C.S.A.

Face it, Shield -- the C.S.A. isn't about self-control, it's about the government controlling its people. Must be why you like it so much: the power trip.

SOLA FIDE.

GOTT MITT UNS.
 
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Sex is only to be in the context of Marriage; between a husband (man) and wife (woman). Fornication and adultery are vile sins. The Church is not going to give you birth control. YOU WILL CONTROL YOURSELF!!!

OH MY GOODNESS!?!? WHO EVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING??? SELF CONTROL???

:sigh: You know it's usually a good thing to answer the questions you're asked before you declare victory. So far you haven't even understood what people are asking let alone come up with an answer. :sorry:
tulc(going to need some more coffee real soon) :)
 
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:sigh: You know it's usually a good thing to answer the questions you're asked before you declare victory. So far you haven't even understood what people are asking let alone come up with an answer. :sorry:
tulc(going to need some more coffee real soon) :)

The answer was correct. The answer was good. You may not like hearing about what is correct and good; however, that does not negate the fact that my answer was the Right one.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.
 
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The answer was correct. The answer was good. You may not like hearing about what is correct and good; however, that does not negate the fact that my answer was the Right one.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

Despite the fact you give no logical reason to follow it. You just state it like it is fact and you are some kind of authority, when you have not shown reasons for either.

You have yet to prove it is correct and good, just saying so doesn't make it so.
 
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The answer was correct. The answer was good. You may not like hearing about what is correct and good; however, that does not negate the fact that my answer was the Right one.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

Your answer was garbage -- don't worry; we're used to it.

How about answering me while you're at it? I could use (another) good laugh.
 
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The answer was correct. The answer was good. You may not like hearing about what is correct and good; however, that does not negate the fact that my answer was the Right one.

You must have had a hard time in school when the teacher asked you what 2+2 is and you answered "Oranges are orange!" which while that is correct, is however not the question you're being asked. :sigh:
tulc(see the difference?) :scratch:
 
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I have come to the conclusion that SOF's idea of a new nation really is no different than the same thing the Taliban had in Afghanistan. The only difference is that they (the Taliban) were far right Muslims and he (SOF) is a far right Christian. Both believe that God gave them the right to choose how everyone in that society should believe, live, worship,think etc.... And if you do not agree with what they think than "off with your head" or some other form of server punishment.
 
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The answer was correct. The answer was good. You may not like hearing about what is correct and good; however, that does not negate the fact that my answer was the Right one.

Not shown anywhere on this thread... could someone close it?
 
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You have had many questions. Which one are you talking about?

Considering you've avoided them all, I suppose any of them would be a start.

But let's begin with this one: How can you pretend that the C.S.A. is going to be all about self-control when every action is performed under the threat of hanging?

Then you can move on to: Considering that Planned Parenthood provides a myriad of important reproductive medical services besides birth control, where will women turn to for such services in the C.S.A. once you outlaw PP?

Then there's: If pornography is a capital offense under the C.S.A. (and of ocurse it is), and considering the volumes of porn which is freely available via the Internet -- most of which comes from servers on foreign soil, how do you intend to restrict the flow of it to your people?

After that, try: Considering that you intend to outlaw the A.C.L.U (or any similar organization), then who can Joe Citizen turn to if they feel that some branch of the C.S.A. has abused its power? Or is your position that the C.S.A.'s power over its people is absolute, and therefore by definition, cannot be abused?

A very important question is this: If you're proposing a nation based on Biblical laws, why is it then that you have chosen to disregard the majority of those laws in your C.S.A.? For if your execution of homosexuals (regardless of whether any crime is committed, I would imagine) is based on Biblical mandate, then how can you explain giving a free pass to the literally hundreds of other worthy candidates for God's explicit punishment? For unless the C.S.A. follows God's word to the Letter, won't it suffer the same eventual "Smackdown" you believe America is long overdue for?

Last, and by no means least: Considering your extreme stance against personal liberties, why should anyone believe that you ever served in the armed forces, where, if you had, you would've been obligated to protect and defend the United States Constitution, a document which serves to safeguard individual liberties?


Answers to any/all of these questions would be appreciated -- but not expected.
 
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For if your execution of homosexuals (regardless of whether any crime is committed, I would imagine) is based on Biblical mandate, then how can you explain giving a free pass to the literally hundreds of other worthy candidates for God's explicit punishment? For unless the C.S.A. follows God's word to the Letter, won't it suffer the same eventual "Smackdown" you believe America is long overdue for?

"Hundreds of other worthy candidates?" Hundreds? Try millions. If SoF was consistent in his application of the death penalty as called for in the OT, his "Confederate States of America" would suffer a depopulation episode somewhere between that of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge and Europe during the Black Death.

Of course, if SoF responds to this, he'll do another goalpost relocation and whine that we're a bunch of soft liberals who only oppose him because he supports capital punishment for murderers and child-rapists.
 
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So, I think what we've all learned here is this:

In C.S.A., if a teacher asked, "what is the main export of Brazil", and the student answered, "Brazil should be banned because of Brazilian waxes and the thoughts they cause", the student would be correct.

Or, in C.S.A., if a teacher asked, "what world countries have declared themselves neutral" and the student answered, "no one should be neutral because neutral is being lukewarm and lukewarm people are sinful", the student would be correct.

Or, in C.S.A., if a teacher asked, "how do you create green using paint", and the student answered, "nothing can mix without marriage, so there would be no green, because colours can't get marriage licences because they're paint", the student would be correct.

Mind you, these answers would only be correct in the C.S.A. Everywhere else they are incorrect.
 
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New question, Shield: In light of your mysogynism as shown in this thread here, How many women do you honestly expect to show up at your C.S.A. and subject themselves to your whims with no chance to speak out? Not many, I can assure you.

C.S.A. -- the "S" stands for sausagefest.
 
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This CSA would be hell on earth.

Wrong once again.

The New C.S.A. would be a wonderful place. A place that women could feel safe walking down the street at night. A place where children would not be in fear of the Gov. breaking down the door to take them away and shove them in some ungodly "child protective services" because someone wanted to get some political cheese points. A place where you would never see drug dealers on the streets. A place where you would never see gangs!!! A place where you would never see bands of homosexuals screaming obscenities dressing in womens underwear and dancing lewdly on floats. A place where your children would not be in danger of inter-net predators. A place where there would never be a MBLA, or any other form of child pornography!!!

Yes, the New C.S.A. would be an awesome place to bring up a family.

If you want to see something like hell on earth, go to some of our slums in the U.S., or go to San Franpsycho (Sodom & Gomorah.).

The New C.S.A. it's what's for families.
 
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Judging by your post on Hillary I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that in your country I wouldn't even be allowed to vote. After all, I'm just a woman, right? My husband dominates me, therefore he gets to choose who the family votes for, right?

Wait, would there even be voting in this country? What am I even talking about? Of course there wouldn't.

And again, either Trevor or I would get ourselves sterilized, or escape to another country. I would NEVER subject my babies to a country like yours. It'd be more merciful that they never be born at all. Our family would never happen under your little Taliban-esque regime. Would you kill us for that, too? Is sterilization a crime punishable by death too? What if I smuggle in birth control from another country? You gonna send in a swat team to look up my skirt to see if the birth control device I use is there when you figure out I haven't had 7 babies in as many years? Forced pelvic exams for mothers and daughters alike, sounds like a great place to have kids. While you're at it you can check for a broken hymen and shuttle any girls unlucky enough not to have one off to the gallows.

You are way too confident that your citizens will just lick your boots instead of foiling your plans every chance they get. You'd eventually run out of places to pile the bodies for burning if you were even moderately successful in fighting back. Gay people will still have sex, you will have to install cameras in every home to ensure they don't. Even then, they'll likely find a place just out of camera range and continue to get it on. People will smuggle in their drugs, their birth control, their porn. Illegal abortions will still happen. You won't be able to kill them fast enough to control it. Human beings are nothing if they're not tenacious. Don't you realize this?
 
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Wrong once again.

The New C.S.A. would be a wonderful place. A place that women could feel safe walking down the street at night.

Somehow, I doubt this. I think it would be more likely be like Saudi Arabia, where a woman walking down the street at night without the company of a male would be arrested. After all, what reason would there be for a woman to be on the streets at night without a man under the laws of SoF's CSA that wouldn't be against the law?
 
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