Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (2)

[Sycophant]

I could break down your argument fairly quickly; however, since you've already threatened me with your open flames; I don't think I should even be speaking with you. You seem a little too over protective of your title of "Reverend".

Sorry SoF, but I'm going to agree with the Reverend on this one... Your interpretation of that verse is a fairly big stretch. In the context you've presented Jesus makes no such reaffirmation. He uses it simply as an example of their hypocrisy in criticising him for his deviation from tradition.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Pathetic.

I never once said anything about "Secret Prisons", "Alternative Interrogations", or "Warrantless Spying". Weak.[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]
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Oh please. You must have me confused with someone who just fell off the turnip wagon last week.

The only way you could make your fascist state work is through detention without trial, torture, and spying from secret police. That's how all fascist states are made to work. That's how all dictatorships work. Free people usually don't rat each other out--it's when the secret police come take someone away in the dark of night and threaten them that they drop a name--any name!--to avoid the hot iron or the electrode.

You've steadfastly refused to state whether or not you would hew strictly to the Old Testament when deciding who your Fourth Reich would liquidate. I understand why you're reluctant to answer that, SoF. If you admit you would follow the OT and murder children, that makes you no different from the fanatics who smashed airplanes into the WTC and Pentagon back on 9/11/01. They were just doing what their old holy book told them to. They, too, were "just following orders."

But if you state you would deviate from the OT in any way, then your claim to be "just following orders" goes out the window, and you have to take responsibility for murder. I don't think you have the guts for that--mentally you strike me as being far more like the functionaries and peons who pulled the levers at the showers at Dachau and Auschwitz, not the people who actually engineered the Holocaust.

So tell us right here and now, with no cut-and-paste, and no Bible quotes to lean on like a crutch. Do you, SoF, have the brains--not the mention the cohones--to engineer your own Holocaust, or are you "just following orders?" Which is it?

 

[ShieldOFaith]

So, in the name of God, your nation would hang children.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 17 "And he who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. --Exodus 21[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 "Again, you shall say to the children of Israel: 'Whoever of the children of Israel, or of the strangers who dwell in Israel, who gives any of his descendants to Molech, he shall surely be put to death. The people of the land shall stone him with stones. 3 I will set My face against that man, and will cut him off from his people, because he has given some of his descendants to Molech, to defile My sanctuary and profane My holy name. 4 And if the people of the land should in any way hide their eyes from the man, when he gives some of his descendants to Molech, and they do not kill him, 5 then I will set My face against that man and against his family; and I will cut him off from his people, and all who prostitute themselves with him to commit harlotry with Molech. 6 'And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people. 7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 'And you shall keep My statutes, and perform them: I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him. --Lev. 20

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing. --Romans 13

SOLA GRATIA.
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[Blackguard_]

Shield of Faith in the Noose,

a couple questions...

1. What's with the name "Confederate States Of America"? Is this going to be an actual Confederacy? That seems odd given you seem to be in favor strong government and seem a very 'my way or the highway" type. Regional autonomy seems out of place.
The name appears to serve no function except to get you accused of racism.

2. How much freedom of speech, press, and assembly would there be? Would you allow protests and demonstrations, or would they be met with machineguns and case shot? How critical of your regime could one be in the CSA?

3. Any right against self incrimination in your CSA? double-jeopardy?

4. Would the justice system be adversarial like ours, or inquisitorial like most other countries? Would you be innocent until proven guilty or guilty until provrn innocent?

 

[ShieldOFaith]

If you admit you would follow the OT and murder children, that makes you no different from the fanatics who smashed airplanes into the WTC and Pentagon back on 9/11/01.

Once again you are calling GOD a murderer!!! Not a wise thing to do.

It was the true and living GOD who commanded that anyone who curses his father or mother should be killed. Here, read it for yourself:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 'And you shall keep My statutes, and perform them: I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him. --Lev. 20

NWM, you can see that there is NO mention murder here. There is Capital Punishment; but absolutely NO murder here. You saying that us following the O.T. constitutes "murder" of children; is flat out wrong and blasphemous. You are insinuating that GOD is commanding us to Murder! Evil.

You should really think your words through before you post.

SOLI DEO GLORIA.
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[TheReasoner]

Once again you are calling GOD a murderer!!! Not a wise thing to do.

It was the true and living GOD who commanded that anyone who curses his father or mother should be killed. Here, read it for yourself:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 'And you shall keep My statutes, and perform them: I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him. --Lev. 20

NWM, you can see that there is NO mention murder here. There is Capital Punishment; but absolutely NO murder here. You saying that us following the O.T. constitutes "murder" of children; is flat out wrong and blasphemous. You are insinuating that GOD is commanding us to Murder! Evil.

You should really think your words through before you post.

SOLI DEO GLORIA.
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And again, we have another SoF post which does not answer the questions asked, but rather is another attempt at self-justification.
Lovely!
*sigh*

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Did I hurt your feelings


You don't have to say anything. You stated everything that basically defines facism and dictatorship. That's enough for me to assume that Secret Prisons and other methods of total control is what you have in mind



You are funny, you really are like a spoiled child off his meds.

Have you considered moving to Iran, you'd love it there

By now you should know what they say about assuming.

Why don't you go to Iran? If you are such a big bad feminist atheist you should have no problem protesting against Islam and their laws.

Good luck with that.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

SOLI FIDE.

SOLA GRATIA.

SOLUS CHRISTUS.

SOLI DEO GLORIA.

 

[Sycophant]

Hey... Shield...

Birth Control?

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Shield of Faith in the Noose,

a couple questions...

1. What's with the name "Confederate States Of America"? Is this going to be an actual Confederacy? That seems odd given you seem to be in favor strong government and seem a very 'my way or the highway" type. Regional autonomy seems out of place.
The name appears to serve no function except to get you accused of racism.

2. How much freedom of speech, press, and assembly would there be? Would you allow protests and demonstrations, or would they be met with machineguns and case shot? How critical of your regime could one be in the CSA?

3. Any right against self incrimination in your CSA? double-jeopardy?

4. Would the justice system be adversarial like ours, or inquisitorial like most other countries? Would you be innocent until proven guilty or guilty until provrn innocent?

First off I could be a pansy and hit the report button for you purposefully mangling my name (I know this because I accidently misspelled someones name and a mod got all up in my grill), but I am not like that. I'll let your mud slide off my shield.

Next, the name C.S.A. just sounds cool. I am a history buff, and I love the fact that the Southern states had the huevos rancheros to tell the over-taxing Yankees to get to steppin!

I understand that the Yankees won the war and wrote the textbooks. I also understand that true history tells a different story. The truth of the matter was that the "Civil War" was a very unpopular war with the North. And it wasn't until about 2 years into the war, which the Yankee North was getting its pants kicked; that Lincoln decided to try and get some much needed support for the war by really pushing the anti-slavery rhetoric.

I do not now, nor have I ever advocated slavery. Especially the way we implemented it here in the states. We truly wronged our black brothers. There is no way around it. So that was wrong of the original C.S.A.. They should have freed their slaves the same time the Northern states freed theirs.

Anyway, the New C.S.A. sounds cool.

SOLA GRATIA.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Hey... Shield...

Birth Control?

Must....go....sleep....

Tomorrow....

Goodnight.

 

[Sycophant]

Tease.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Once again you are calling GOD a murderer!!! Not a wise thing to do.

It was the true and living GOD who commanded that anyone who curses his father or mother should be killed. Here, read it for yourself:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 'And you shall keep My statutes, and perform them: I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him. --Lev. 20

NWM, you can see that there is NO mention murder here. There is Capital Punishment; but absolutely NO murder here. You saying that us following the O.T. constitutes "murder" of children; is flat out wrong and blasphemous. You are insinuating that GOD is commanding us to Murder! Evil.

You should really think your words through before you post.

SOLI DEO GLORIA.
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Oh, I did think my words through...and you have confirmed my suspicions. You are just another psycho who thinks God is telling him to go kill people. You don't even have the intellect that the leaders of the Third Reich--wicked as they were--possessed. No, you are a button-pusher. Nothing more. The sum total of independent thought on your part might be to pocket the occasional gold filling from the corpse of an executed communist, Jew, or homosexual.

Beyond that, you'll just follow orders.

 

[Gremlins]

I think SoF needs to look up William Gladstone. Proof that it's possible to be a devout Christian, but not kill everyone once you get into government.

 

[Nathan Poe]

2. You can not create terror in criminals by forgiving them. Look:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. --Romans 13[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]You say your god is supposed to be some kind of tough guy? Ok.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The GOD of Abraham is a Terror to those who do evil.

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And since Biblical doctrine simply says that everyone is inherently evil, your goal of the C.S.A. is to keep everyone in line by spreading terror.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Pathetic.

I never once said anything about "Secret Prisons", "Alternative Interrogations", or "Warrantless Spying". Weak.

In other words, you want the draconian laws, but you haven't given any thought at all as to how to enforce them, have you?

Read and understand:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing. --Romans 13[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLI DEO GLORIA.[/FONT]

GOTT MITT UNS. Didn't a guy named Adolf quote this same passage? And aren't you ignoring it by seceeding from the US?

 

[Nathan Poe]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 17 "And he who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. --Exodus 21[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 "Again, you shall say to the children of Israel: 'Whoever of the children of Israel, or of the strangers who dwell in Israel, who gives any of his descendants to Molech, he shall surely be put to death. The people of the land shall stone him with stones. 3 I will set My face against that man, and will cut him off from his people, because he has given some of his descendants to Molech, to defile My sanctuary and profane My holy name. 4 And if the people of the land should in any way hide their eyes from the man, when he gives some of his descendants to Molech, and they do not kill him, 5 then I will set My face against that man and against his family; and I will cut him off from his people, and all who prostitute themselves with him to commit harlotry with Molech. 6 'And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people. 7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 'And you shall keep My statutes, and perform them: I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him. --Lev. 20[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing. --Romans 13[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA GRATIA.[/FONT]

So you would hang children -- you just don't have the courage to come out from behind your Bible and say it yourself.

Weak.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Once again you are calling GOD a murderer!!! Not a wise thing to do.

Because you'll hang him for it?

It was the true and living GOD who commanded that anyone who curses his father or mother should be killed. Here, read it for yourself:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 'And you shall keep My statutes, and perform them: I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him. --Lev. 20[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]NWM, you can see that there is NO mention murder here. There is Capital Punishment; but absolutely NO murder here. You saying that us following the O.T. constitutes "murder" of children; is flat out wrong and blasphemous. You are insinuating that GOD is commanding us to Murder! Evil.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]You should really think your words through before you post.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLI DEO GLORIA.[/FONT]

Glory to someone who kills children? I think not.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Oh, I did think my words through...and you have confirmed my suspicions. You are just another psycho who thinks God is telling him to go kill people. You don't even have the intellect that the leaders of the Third Reich--wicked as they were--possessed. No, you are a button-pusher. Nothing more. The sum total of independent thought on your part might be to pocket the occasional gold filling from the corpse of an executed communist, Jew, or homosexual.

Beyond that, you'll just follow orders.

Since you refuse to deal with the text; your words are null and void. All the words you just typed are null and void of substance. We are dealing with the Word of God. It is ETERNAL and holy. As Christians we are to:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. --2 Tim. 2

Hence your words are null and void. They are of "no profit".

These words are eternal and true, however:

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]8 And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I am the LORD which sanctify you. 9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. 11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. 12 And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. 13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. 14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you. 15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. 16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. --Leviticus 20[/FONT]


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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3 He answered and said to them, "Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.' --Matt. 15[/FONT]


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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing. --Romans 13[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]WOW![/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Did you see that? Old Testament, New Testament, and the Words of JESUS CHRIST Himself.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]All perfect, holy, true and eternal.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. --Matt. 24[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. --John 17[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. --Hebrews 4[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Praise the LORD GOD Almighty in heaven for His Word!!! [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA SCRIPTURA!!!
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[ShieldOFaith]

Because you'll hang him for it?



Glory to someone who kills children? I think not.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. --Prov. 14

{Now pay real close attention to this}

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, --Romans 1[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"BUT BECAME FUTILE IN THEIR THOUGHT, AND THEIR FOOLISH HEARTS WERE DARKENED. PROFESSING TO BE WISE, THEY BECAME FOOLS,"[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]{Once again, pay close attention here}[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him." 10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. --1 Cor. 2[/FONT]


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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]This is why you are saying the things you are saying. You can never fully understand the Word of God because your heart is darkened with sin.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The Word of GOD is sound and perfect. You just can't discern it. As long as you are outside of Christ, you will never discern it.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]This is perfect, holy, and true:[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 1 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 "Again, you shall say to the children of Israel: 'Whoever of the children of Israel, or of the strangers who dwell in Israel, who gives any of his descendants to Molech, he shall surely be put to death. The people of the land shall stone him with stones. 3 I will set My face against that man, and will cut him off from his people, because he has given some of his descendants to Molech, to defile My sanctuary and profane My holy name. 4 And if the people of the land should in any way hide their eyes from the man, when he gives some of his descendants to Molech, and they do not kill him, 5 then I will set My face against that man and against his family; and I will cut him off from his people, and all who prostitute themselves with him to commit harlotry with Molech. 6 'And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people. 7 Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 'And you shall keep My statutes, and perform them: I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 10 The man who commits adultery with another man's wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death. 11 The man who lies with his father's wife has uncovered his father's nakedness; both of them shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. 12 If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death. They have committed perversion. Their blood shall be upon them. 13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. 14 If a man marries a woman and her mother, it is wickedness. They shall be burned with fire, both he and they, that there may be no wickedness among you. 15 If a man mates with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. 16 If a woman approaches any animal and mates with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood is upon them. 17 If a man takes his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and sees her nakedness and she sees his nakedness, it is a wicked thing. And they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He has uncovered his sister's nakedness. He shall bear his guilt. 18 If a man lies with a woman during her sickness and uncovers her nakedness, he has exposed her flow, and she has uncovered the flow of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from their people. 19 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother's sister nor of your father's sister, for that would uncover his near of kin. They shall bear their guilt. 20 If a man lies with his uncle's wife, he has uncovered his uncle's nakedness. They shall bear their sin; they shall die childless. 21 If a man takes his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing. He has uncovered his brother's nakedness. They shall be childless. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 22 'You shall therefore keep all My statutes and all My judgments, and perform them, that the land where I am bringing you to dwell may not vomit you out. 23 And you shall not walk in the statutes of the nation which I am casting out before you; for they commit all these things, and therefore I abhor them. 24 But I have said to you, "You shall inherit their land, and I will give it to you to possess, a land flowing with milk and honey." I am the Lord your God, who has separated you from the peoples. 25 You shall therefore distinguish between clean animals and unclean, between unclean birds and clean, and you shall not make yourselves abominable by beast or by bird, or by any kind of living thing that creeps on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean. 26 And you shall be holy to Me, for I the Lord am holy, and have separated you from the peoples, that you should be Mine. 27 'A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them.' " --Leviticus 20[/FONT]


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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Nothing that you ever will say can diminish this one iota. These words are perfectly eternal. When your words come up against GODS Words; your words lose every time. [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA SCRIPTURA.
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[Cabal]

Really SoF, stop with the whole "God says I'm right" routine, 58 pages later, its' getting tiring.

As I've said on many other threads:

It is possible for both God and man to think you're being a psycho.