on a further note, this is the first time I've been called a non-christian for believing that homosexuals shouldn't be executed.
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You somehow think I am talking about killing people. When I am clearly speaking about THE GOVERNMENT EXERCISING the right of Capital Punishment.
You somehow read clear posts, and warp them into somekind of murder fantasy. You need help. You are seeing murder where there is none.
Study the word and concept of holiness.
GOD is holy and righteous. HE is pure in His holiness. HE is complete and whole in His holiness. Everything He does is pure and holy.
HE is pure and without sin. HE hates sin.
If you can understand this simple concept, then you can understand the basics of theology.
SOLI DEO GLORIA.
I have answered this question many times over. But I guess once more won't hurt again.
Q. Do you feel the need to cleanse these individuals from the earth?
A. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I live in the state of California. I am a private citizen and hold no public office. I am not a politician. I do not have the authority to kill anybody who is not trying to personally kill me. So I have no authority to execute a homosexual for his sin. I am not trying to execute any homosexuals for their sin.
Can you understand this? This is really basic and simple.
I am saying this very simple fact. If a New nation, or an already existing nation wanted to make homosexuality a Capital Offense; then they would have the right to do so by GOD. Since HE has already placed a sentence of death upon this sin, that nation would be justified in claiming homosexuality a Capital Offense.
I do not feel the need to cleanse these people from the earth. Just like I do not feel the need to cleanse any other group of sinners from the earth.
I just am saying that the government has the right to use Capital Punishment on murder, rape, kidnapping, homosexuality.
I am not a vigilante. I am not running around killing homosexuals. I know that you have some kind of fantasy about me, that I am doing this. However, I can assure you that I am not running around murdering homosexuals. That is not reality. If you believe that it is, then you are delusional and you need help.
SOLI DEO GLORIA.
I have answered this question many times over. But I guess once more won't hurt again.
Q. Do you feel the need to cleanse these individuals from the earth?
A. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I live in the state of California. I am a private citizen and hold no public office. I am not a politician. I do not have the authority to kill anybody who is not trying to personally kill me. So I have no authority to execute a homosexual for his sin. I am not trying to execute any homosexuals for their sin.
Can you understand this? This is really basic and simple.
I am saying this very simple fact. If a New nation, or an already existing nation wanted to make homosexuality a Capital Offense; then they would have the right to do so by GOD. Since HE has already placed a sentence of death upon this sin, that nation would be justified in claiming homosexuality a Capital Offense.
I do not feel the need to cleanse these people from the earth. Just like I do not feel the need to cleanse any other group of sinners from the earth. I just am saying that the government has the right to use Capital Punishment on murder, rape, kidnapping, homosexuality.
I am not a vigilante. I am not running around killing homosexuals. I know that you have some kind of fantasy about me, that I am doing this. However, I can assure you that I am not running around murdering homosexuals. That is not reality. If you believe that it is, then you are delusional and you need help.
SOLI DEO GLORIA.
I have answered this question many times over. But I guess once more won't hurt again.
Q. Do you feel the need to cleanse these individuals from the earth?
A. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I live in the state of California. I am a private citizen and hold no public office. I am not a politician. I do not have the authority to kill anybody who is not trying to personally kill me. So I have no authority to execute a homosexual for his sin. I am not trying to execute any homosexuals for their sin.
I am saying this very simple fact. If a New nation, or an already existing nation wanted to make homosexuality a Capital Offense; then they would have the right to do so by GOD. Since HE has already placed a sentence of death upon this sin, that nation would be justified in claiming homosexuality a Capital Offense.
I do not feel the need to cleanse these people from the earth. Just like I do not feel the need to cleanse any other group of sinners from the earth. I just am saying that the government has the right to use Capital Punishment on murder, rape, kidnapping, homosexuality.
I am not a vigilante. I am not running around killing homosexuals. I know that you have some kind of fantasy about me, that I am doing this. However, I can assure you that I am not running around murdering homosexuals. That is not reality. If you believe that it is, then you are delusional and you need help.
SOLI DEO GLORIA.
I am suprised that anyone could throw out the New Testement so easily!
For, if one follows the Old Testement and puts into the law books of country, there are a lot of people who would be up for capital punishment. Men, women, and children would be killed by the dozens. Women whose husbands suspected them of cheating on them could have them poisoned! (Numbers 5: 12-31)
Will rules from Leviticus be law, too? Regarding unclean and clean things?
Will women who have just given birth be isolated, because of their uncleanliness? (Leviticus 12:2-6)
Will everyone who commits an offence against Leviticus 18 be killed?
Just wondering...
And will people be able to eat shrimp?
trust me, I'm more stable than you mr SWAT team guy. =) I think you've proven this to everyone more than enough.
Anyways, back to the debate....
And this is the core of the debate; lets put homosexuality aside. what about an old lady, a first or third time non-violent drug offendor, clean record, upstanding citizen, but her drugs are illegal, but its the only thing that help her pain from a debilitating disease for which there is no cure or known treatment for, only the illegal drugs.
Do you feel the Bible justifies her execution based upon her crimes?
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howabout another question....
Do you hate homosexuals?
Remember the third commandment, heretic.
You didn't answer the first question, you just hand waved it away. You have a tendency to avoid answering the questions that would pin you down to what you are, which is that you don't want to face.Come on now MPOK, are you really trying to go with the "we need to legalize (M)are (J)ane because there is an old lady who is in pain" argument???
Once again, let's stay in reality.
What did I say NW? I said the government has the right by GOD to exercise Capital Punishment. It does. I'm right.
Q. Do you feel the need to cleanse these individuals from the earth?
A. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I live in the state of California. I am a private citizen and hold no public office. I am not a politician. I do not have the authority to kill anybody who is not trying to personally kill me. So I have no authority to execute a homosexual for his sin. I am not trying to execute any homosexuals for their sin.
Come on now MPOK, are you really trying to go with the "we need to legalize (M)are (J)ane because there is an old lady who is in pain" argument???
Once again, let's stay in reality.
again, answer the question...Come on now MPOK, are you really trying to go with the "we need to legalize (M)are (J)ane because there is an old lady who is in pain" argument???
Once again, let's stay in reality.
Come on now MPOK, are you really trying to go with the "we need to legalize (M)are (J)ane because there is an old lady who is in pain" argument???
Once again, let's stay in reality.
No, your just trying to invent a government to do your dirty work for you. Careful, such a creation can turn on it's creator.
SoF --
For the sake of clarity, could you please cite the Scripture where God specifically and unambiguously says that homosexuals should be killed?
Not that it's bad, not that it's an abomination, and not just that we shouldn't do it, but the Scripture where God Himself explicitly says that we should kill them.
I'm not denying that it's in there -- I'm sure it is -- but for the purposes of this discussion, I think posting it would clear up a few things.
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