Could the prophet Elijah have altered history if he had NOT........

[Maria Billingsley]

I am not in support of them building a temple so they can worship in it. I am in support of them building a temple so that Scripture will be fulfilled, which we see a temple spoken about in Revelation. I suppose a clear example would be when Jesus told his apostles to acquire some swords. He didn't tell them to get swords so they can kill, he told them to get swords so that Scripture would be fulfilled. Yet even with the reasoning given, Jesus was well aware of their hearts and rebuked Peter for using the sword.

We differ on the interpretation of the temple in Revelation 11. I see these verses speaking of the current temple at that time before the destruction in 70AD.

 

[Yahkov]

We differ on the interpretation of the temple in Revelation 11. I see these verses speaking of the current temple at that time before the destruction in 70AD.

Thank you for the reply. I would like to ask a question though. How could these verses be speaking of the current temple when John wrote this 30 years after that temple was destroyed? Revelation was written around 100AD.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Thank you for the reply. I would like to ask a question though. How could these verses be speaking of the current temple when John wrote this 30 years after that temple was destroyed? Revelation was written around 100AD.

Because there are those who belive Revelation was written before 70 AD. The parcial Preterist view

https://www.equip.org/bible_answers...after-the-destruction-of-the-temple-in-ad-70/

 

[Yahkov]

Because there are those who belive Revelation was written before 70 AD. The parcial Preterist view

https://www.equip.org/bible_answers...after-the-destruction-of-the-temple-in-ad-70/

I have never really considered this before. I will start a new topic over this after I prepare what I have in response so that this thread doesn't drift further off topic. I will title it The Dating of Revelation.

 

[DennisTate]

Thank you for the reply. I would like to ask a question though. How could these verses be speaking of the current temple when John wrote this 30 years after that temple was destroyed? Revelation was written around 100AD.

One of the questions that has been on my mind during my forty seven years of being a Christian and researching topics like this is the idea of ........... "Replacement Theology?"

At this time I believe that if a Christian tends to support the rebuilding of a literal Temple Mount Third Temple and / or a literal Ezekiel style temple then.........
that Christian is definitely NOT guilt of getting into Replacement Theology because..........

.... we Christians have no idea how to do any of the Levitical rituals implied in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight.

One of the most insightful statements that I consider relevant to the issue of Replacement Theology is:

"The Sacrificial System Will Continue

One of the most perplexing ideas to students of Scripture is the idea that God intends that the annual feasts, along with animal sacrifice, will continue into the Millennium. Many Christians who have studied the prophetic portions of Zechariah 14, Isaiah 66, and Ezekiel 40 - 48, which clearly describe these Millennial worship ordinations, are confused by the idea. They ask, "Didn't the sacrifice of Christ eliminate animal sacrifices forever?"

............"Only the complete sacrifice of Jesus could ever totally atone for our sins. However, God clearly demanded the sacrifices from Adam to Christ. Those sacrifices were acts of obedience to the direct command of God, as well as acknowledgements of one's own personal sinfulness and need for God's forgiveness. Animal sacrifices covered the sins of the people temporarily until the prophesied Messiah would come and offer Himself once and for all as the necessary atonement for sin. If animal sacrifice can never atone for sin, why would God allow Israel to resume such sacrifice in the Third Temple, prior to Armageddon, and then demand that Israel continue such sacrifice in the Millennium? There are two reasons why I believe this is true."

First, the early Jewish - Christian Church continued to offer sacrifices in the first century.".......



.......Second, New Testament writers used the legal sacrificial system to illustrate very important points concerning Christ's sacrifice on the Cross.......

..... These examples of the way early Jewish believers used God's law to teach great love when He sacrificed His only Son on the cross will be repeated during the Millennium." (Grant R. Jeffrey, Messiah, War in the Middle East and the Road to Armageddon, page 317, 318 and 319)

This idea is relevant to this entire discussion because...... the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter forty seven is critical for stabilization of the climate in the Middle East....... which is relevant to decreasing tensions in the Middle East as well......

So basically one time line in which Ezekiel chapter forty seven is fulfilled by .... for example the year 2050 vs another time line in which Ezekiel chapter forty seven is fulfilled by 2035..... would be two amazingly different time lines?!

Would the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple stabilize the climate???

 

[DennisTate]

Multiverse in the context of quantum mechanics is actually an atheist attempt to explain out the fine tuning of our universe.

They say there are all universes, ones with fine tuning for life and also other ones without it. When subatomic particle "makes a choice", the other possibility happens in another universe.

True......
but this guy is a near death experiencer who was told during his NDE that
he could have stayed in heaven.... he had been faithful but........
he was told that if he would go back into his body and live out more years
he would be able to greatly encourage many people who would affect the lives
of so many others that he would change history.

This is after the twenty minute mark of this amazing video:

Kevin Zadai is known as the man who went to heaven and back, so he knows that heaven is for real. In 1992 during a routine surgery, I met with Jesus on the other side. The time I spent in the presence of Jesus profoundly changed me to my core. I believe Jesus promised me that my story, including all the things I learned during our conversation, has the capacity to radically change those who read it. It is my prayer that as you read about my visitation, you will experience the same thing I experienced and have an even greater outcome. -Kevin

 

[DennisTate]

Pastor Mark Brisebois is correct in this!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2487539511345372

An excerpt of an upcoming video "Not Business as Usual" Marc Brisebois outlines how a seemingly small misstep during the encounter on Mount Carmel had dire consequences for Elijah.

 

[Norbert L]

Pastor Mark Brisebois is correct in this!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2487539511345372

That would be like blaming king Hezekiah's request for a longer life as badly motivated because it resulted in the birth of king Manasseh, who sacrificed children among other evils.

Imputing motives and jumping to conclusions that are not explicitly or implicitly mentioned in the scriptures makes for very risky preaching in my view.

 

[DennisTate]

That would be like blaming king Hezekiah's request for a longer life as badly motivated because it resulted in the birth of king Manasseh, who sacrificed children among other evils.

Imputing motives and jumping to conclusions that are not explicitly or implicitly mentioned in the scriptures makes for very risky preaching in my view.

That could be......
but giving ordinary Christians the impression that the Prophet Elijah was sinless..... and felt no fear at the prospect of falling into the hands of the loyal servants of Queen Jezebel......... also has many, many, many, many dangers......... because it sure doesn't seem to fit with this easily understood verse......


Jas 5:17

Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

 

[DennisTate]

Multiverse in the context of quantum mechanics is actually an atheist attempt to explain out the fine tuning of our universe.

They say there are all universes, ones with fine tuning for life and also other ones without it. When subatomic particle "makes a choice", the other possibility happens in another universe.

But after the nine minute mark in this interview the idea of whole books being written about each of us .......BUT.... if we do not yield to the Holy Spirit...... those pages may never come to pass even though Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has sent angels to guide us toward a very different life than we tend to imagine.

 

[DennisTate]

Dr. Kevin Zadai is a near death experiencer........
During his forty five minutes or so in heaven he is told that he can stay in heaven but......

Jesus tells him that if he will go back and speak into the lives of people he can re-route their lives and finish up what needs to be done during this generation so that
the kingdom of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is set up in the very near future.

After twenty six minutes he prays so that the witches in the audience lose their familiar spirits and would no longer be able to be witches...... This is useful....

His prayer is after 26:00 minutes in this video:

You Can Hear God's Voice Session 3. Spirit School Dalton GA

 

[DennisTate]

Multiverse in the context of quantum mechanics is actually an atheist attempt to explain out the fine tuning of our universe.

They say there are all universes, ones with fine tuning for life and also other ones without it. When subatomic particle "makes a choice", the other possibility happens in another universe.

But... even the Apostle Paul quoted some pagan poets in scripture.......
and used their ideas as part of one of his sermons.

This is a related topic:

Multiverse Theory, multiple Ezekiel 37 events and the unification of Calvinism with Universalism?

 

[DennisTate]

Some truly fascinating information related to this topic occurs after the forty minute mark in this sermon:

It's Rigged In Your Favor! Fort Mill Spirit School Session Two - Kevin Zadai