Could someone explain me evolution & Big Bang?

[rikerjoe]

I thought evolutions holy book was darwins the origin of the species and richard dawkins is the high priest.

So you were wrong. Will you admit it?

Dear Steve, Good one. Some think Darwin was God and when they die they are going to the Galapagos Islands.

What driewerf doesn't say is that Religion is one's "belief" of what is the Truth. God's Truth agrees in every way with every discovery of Science and History, but the False Theory of Evolution does NOT agree in any way, with any other Truth. Thus, the unsupportable belief in the False ToE is a False Religion, pure and simple. God Bless you.

An endless source of gibberish...

 

[Aman777]

Dear me Is there no end to ignorance? We do not "believe" in Darwin, nor in ToE, nor in any scientific theory. we "ACCEPT" it. BIG Difference!

Now when you decide to stop bearing false witness maybe we can have a meaningful debate!

Dear mzungu, I have NO problem with Darwin. My problem is with the Godless result of Darwin's discovery. Today, we have taken evolution from the changes in genetics in a population over time, into the Realm of Religion, myth, and allegory. We are doing this by FORCING the UnSupported view that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes upon our children in the Public Schools of the U.S.

This MUST be corrected or Evols will have to stop telling others that their view changes when their precious Theory is refuted. Or, Evols can keep forcing their "beliefs" upon our children until we reach the bottom educationally. It's a Free Choice for all Evols who worship the False ToE.

Your accusation is false, for I am NOT lying as you presume, but telling you God's Truth, which agrees with science and history, but NOT the False Theory of Evolution. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

An endless source of gibberish...

Dear rikerjoe, Are you looking in the mirror, again? Wake up before you begin to look foolish...again. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[selfinflikted]

Then homeschool your kids. It's what a lot of die-hard Christians do, when they don't want their children to learn about reality.

Though, when they get out into the real world with a crappy education and no real prospects, don't blame us.

 

[WisdomTree]

After seeing flaws in Christianity itself I'm slowly leaving it, but I'm not really going into atheism...Darwin was an Agnostic, same for Einstein. That's why I changed my icon to "Seeker". I don't know what to believe anymore. I don't know much about evolution and the explosion, so if someone could explain it to me in a simple way.

And if someone could explain these:

1. How can nothing create the universe.
2. Since the magnetosphere of the Earth is very young, how could there even be advanced life, because the magnetosphere protects us from solar radiation?
3. The missing links?

And the evidence for your claims. Thank you.

Just a quick question for the OP: Are you implying that Einstein came up with the Big Bang Theory?

 

[EternalDragon]

He asked for knowledge gleaned from a supernatural agent that he himself could not gain without said agent. That Joan of Arc (not 'Ark') is venerated as a saint is common knowledge, not knowledge only obtainable through the supernatural.

She had visions and verbal messages from God but was considered sane and in good health.

 

[AV1611VET]

Then homeschool your kids. It's what a lot of die-hard Christians do, when they don't want their children to learn about reality.

Though, when they get out into the real world with a crappy education and no real prospects, don't blame us.

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[mzungu]

Dear mzungu, I have NO problem with Darwin. My problem is with the Godless result of Darwin's discovery. Today, we have taken evolution from the changes in genetics in a population over time, into the Realm of Religion, myth, and allegory. We are doing this by FORCING the UnSupported view that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes upon our children in the Public Schools of the U.S.

This MUST be corrected or Evols will have to stop telling others that their view changes when their precious Theory is refuted. Or, Evols can keep forcing their "beliefs" upon our children until we reach the bottom educationally. It's a Free Choice for all Evols who worship the False ToE.

Your accusation is false, for I am NOT lying as you presume, but telling you God's Truth, which agrees with science and history, but NOT the False Theory of Evolution. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I am sorry but you are bearing false witness. You claim that ToE is false. Allow me to remind you that Biology makes no sense without ToE and hence Medicine, and pharmacology. If you visit a doctor when you need medical treatment then you are literally enjoying the fruits of ToE. Another thing you so clearly miss is that other science concur what ToE says (Geology, chemistry, etc.)

ToE is the most peer reviewed and scrutinised scientific theory of all time and yet for 150 years it has remained unscathed. If you know so much about how wrong it is then write a paper, get it peer reviewed and go collect your Nobel prize and become the most famous person in human history. Not to mention that you will do Creationism the world of good.

Otherwise you are just bearing false witness.

 

[EternalDragon]

Then homeschool your kids. It's what a lot of die-hard Christians do, when they don't want their children to learn about reality.

Though, when they get out into the real world with a crappy education and no real prospects, don't blame us.

Home schooled kids learn everything regular school kids learn along with the bible.

I think that covers reality quite well. Where teaching about evolution as some sort of fact or proven theory is NOT reality.

Reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined. In a wider definition, reality includes everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible. A still more broad definition includes everything that has existed, exists, or will exist.

 

[EternalDragon]

I am sorry but you are bearing false witness. You claim that ToE is false. Allow me to remind you that Biology makes no sense without ToE and hence Medicine, and pharmacology. If you visit a doctor when you need medical treatment then you are literally enjoying the fruits of ToE. Another thing you so clearly miss is that other science concur what ToE says (Geology, chemistry, etc.)

ToE is the most peer reviewed and scrutinised scientific theory of all time and yet for 150 years it has remained unscathed. If you know so much about how wrong it is then write a paper, get it peer reviewed and go collect your Nobel prize and become the most famous person in human history. Not to mention that you will do Creationism the world of good.

Otherwise you are just bearing false witness.

There are numerous peer reviewed articles out there by accredited scientists
as well as numerous published books and endless articles that do just that.

evolutionnews.org is one source.

 

[AV1611VET]

Allow me to remind you that Biology makes no sense without ToE and hence Medicine, and pharmacology.

At one time, did electricity make no sense without the Fluid theory?

(Please answer this.)

 

[Oncedeceived]

As I said to AV, the reason I don't accept a literal global flood or special creation of each living species in the same form they are now, is not just because there is no scientific evidence for those things, but the evidence available paints a completely different picture, and says that something completely different happened. I don't believe God would deceive us like that.

In order to deny, for example, the Resurrection, on similar grounds, I would need something like a complete video record of Jesus' death, complete with His body decaying in the tomb and not rising again. Obviously no such record exists.



That's your prerogative.

The Bible doesn't claim that each living species in the same form as they are now. In fact, it says there were these "kinds" prior to the kinds listed. That is very important. I don't believe God deceives us either and that is why you have to understand what is being said rather than standard Christian thinking. After its kind shows us that kinds can adapt and change and come around to the list we have in Genesis.

 

[selfinflikted]

Home schooled kids learn everything regular school kids learn along with the bible.

Not necessarily. I have known homeschoolers who use a very strange curriculum, that doesn't match up to anything that I would consider well-rounded or even comparable to what is taught in traditional school.

ETA: Sorry, AV. You must've linked something in your post that's blocked for me on my end. I can't see it.

 

[Ginger123]

After its kind shows us that kinds can adapt and change and come around to the list we have in Genesis.

Keep going, in a few years you will see creationism saying that evolution is 100% true because that's what God wants,
just as long as they can keep people believing and paying for the privilege.

 

[Aman777]

I am sorry but you are bearing false witness. You claim that ToE is false. Allow me to remind you that Biology makes no sense without ToE and hence Medicine, and pharmacology. If you visit a doctor when you need medical treatment then you are literally enjoying the fruits of ToE. Another thing you so clearly miss is that other science concur what ToE says (Geology, chemistry, etc.)

Dear mzungu, You are speaking of descent with modification and NOT what I show is the False part of the ToE. That is the Lie that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Genesis 2:4-7 shows that Humans were made BILLIONS of years BEFORE our Earth was made. Can you address that?

ToE is the most peer reviewed and scrutinised scientific theory of all time and yet for 150 years it has remained unscathed. If you know so much about how wrong it is then write a paper, get it peer reviewed and go collect your Nobel prize and become the most famous person in human history. Not to mention that you will do Creationism the world of good.

Otherwise you are just bearing false witness.

I see. Write a paper and give it to people who REJECT God's Truth and reject ANYone's writing which concerns God's Holy Word. The ToE is a johnny come lately when compared to God's Truth which has been with us for some 3k years, and has never been refuted. You want to try?

Either present the evidence that long, gradual, periods of time and magical mutations produced Human intelligence in Apes, or quit Forcing the Lies of the ToE upon our children. Show us HOW you measured the change in intelligence. Let's see the I.Q. tests from 6 million years ago. Then, I will quit calling Evols nothing but a bunch of lying, God rejecting Hypocrites, who are destroying our children's lives, with their Evol False assumption, that humans are nothing but animals. That is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. God Bless you and help you to learn His Truth. Here is His Truth:

Jesus Christ:>>But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6

In Love,
Aman

 

[Oncedeceived]

Keep going, in a few years you will see creationism saying that evolution is 100% true because that's what God wants,
just as long as they can keep people believing and paying for the privilege.

Evolution as defined is not contested by many creationists and Christians. Evolution is not a sole property of naturalism either.

I don't know why you are always ranting about money either. It is not a requirement you know. It is up to the person. Churches don't require that you give them money and it is done free will.

 

[mzungu]

Genesis 2:4-7 shows that Humans were made BILLIONS of years BEFORE our Earth was made. Can you address that?

This is where I stop debating with you. I would rather debate with a jellyfish!

 

[Oncedeceived]

You do realise that Democritus (Greek philosopher and father of the atom) concluded that all in existence is made up of the smallest indivisible particle he called the atom. The very name ATOM comes from the Greek Ατομο which means indivisible. He concluded rightly that if you cut something in half and continue to cut the half into half then you will reach a point where you will not be able to cut further and this particle he called Atom. He concluded that all in existence is made up of these indivisible particles.
Modern scientists when they discovered the Atom they called it well the "atom". But this atom is not the smallest indivisible that Democritus envisioned. He specifically said that at some point you will reach a smallness where division is impossible.

The people who wrote the Bible believed in talking snakes, flat earth, geocentricism, and all manner of things that science has shown to be wrong.

Now show me one scientific discovery the Bible has given us.

Perhaps you are not aware that this was in the Bible long before Democritus lived?

 

[mzungu]

Perhaps you are not aware that this was in the Bible long before Democritus lived?

Hogwash!

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

Genesis 2:4-7 shows that Humans were made BILLIONS of years BEFORE our Earth was made. Can you address that?
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This is where I stop debating with you. I would rather debate with a jellyfish!

Dear mzungu, Of course, but answer me just one thing. What are you doing on Christian Forums, in the evolution creation section, IF you want to hear NOTHING of God's Truth, which totally destroys the Lies you so falsely "believe"? It just doesn't make sense.

You should go to a Godless Evol site where Christians are not allowed. I can assure you that IF you claim to be a Christian, they will treat you like a Dog, ignore you and call you every name in the book. I know because I've been there. Do Christians on this Board treat you better? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman