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No. Nor have you.
Is it possible you were wrong about having parents?
Are theistic-evolutionists not Christians?How on earth is common descent not incompatible with Christianity? It seems to me that they are mutually exclusive.
The first and third are valid criticisms, but the second is chronological snobbery (do you really think that the ancient Hebrews must adhere to modern English nomenclature?), while the fourth is simply personal opinion.
Parents are a little easier to prove, wouldn't you agree.
And, I have met christians that will admit (although stubbornly) that it is possible they are wrong about their beliefs.
Parents can be considered evidence that proves a first cause. We call that first cause God.Parents are a little easier to prove, wouldn't you agree.
Did the Christian admit to being wrong about why they are Christians?And, I have met christians that will admit (although stubbornly) that it is possible they are wrong about their beliefs.
Every single person who has ever lived could have been wrong. Just because you self identify yourself as Christian, doesn't mean you have super secret ninja powers just because you say so.
We all make fundamental assumptions:
Reality exists.
We can know some things about reality.
Models with predictive capabilities work better than ones that don't.
Don't forget you're a mammal like the rest of us who puts his pants on one leg at a time.
But not every single person is wrong.Every single person who has ever lived could have been wrong.
We do have “super secret ninja powers”, but we prefer to call it “super Holy Spirit powers.Just because you self identify yourself as Christian, doesn't mean you have super secret ninja powers just because you say so.
I agree. That’s why we believe in God.We all make fundamental assumptions:
Reality exists.
We can know some things about reality.
Models with predictive capabilities work better than ones that don't.
I refuse to be a mammal.Don't forget you're a mammal like the rest of us
Pants don’t have legs.who puts his pants on one leg at a time.
Parents can be considered evidence that proves a first cause. We call that first cause God.
Did the Christian admit to being wrong about why they are Christians?
But not every single person is wrong.
We do have super secret ninja powers, but we prefer to call it super Holy Spirit powers.
I agree. Thats why we believe in God.
I refuse to be a mammal.
Pants dont have legs.
As I said, models with predictive capabilities work better than ones without.
Name one thing you can demonstrate to be true as a result of your "super Holy Spirit powers," that I could not demonstrate without appealing to an supernatural agent?
He asked for knowledge gleaned from a supernatural agent that he himself could not gain without said agent. That Joan of Arc (not 'Ark') is venerated as a saint is common knowledge, not knowledge only obtainable through the supernatural.They once called Joan of Ark crazy but now venerate her as a saint.
You do realise that Democritus (Greek philosopher and father of the atom) concluded that all in existence is made up of the smallest indivisible particle he called the atom. The very name ATOM comes from the Greek Ατομο which means indivisible. He concluded rightly that if you cut something in half and continue to cut the half into half then you will reach a point where you will not be able to cut further and this particle he called Atom. He concluded that all in existence is made up of these indivisible particles.If you have another source for there being a non-visible elements that make up the universe then by all means present it.
You heathen! "If English was good enough for Jesus then it is good enough for everyone!"The first and third are valid criticisms, but the second is chronological snobbery (do you really think that the ancient Hebrews must adhere to modern English nomenclature?), while the fourth is simply personal opinion.
You don't understand that indeed evolution is like a religion.
NO, IT's NOT.
And it lacks nearly all the features of a reilion.
- It has no holy book, unlike the bible, the quran, the talmud etc. On the origin of species? That's an influential book, historically important but not holy or sacred.
- It doesn't claim infallibility. Unlike the bible or the quran, the ToE is improved by what we learn new.
- It doesn't threaten you with eternal damnation, if you don't believe. Unlike what the bible and the quran teaches, Evolutionary non-believers are not threatened with hell.
- It doesn't require a monoply. Unlike christianity or islam, you can be an "evolutionist" and worship thet god of islam, christianity, the many gods of hinduism or no god at all.
- It doesn't impose any sexual morality.You can be straight or gay, have sex before mariage or after (or no at all) touch or not. Evolution doesnt' impose anything, forbids nothing and is fine if you want to follow the morality of christianity, judaism, islam or no morality at all.
- There is no "sacred moment". Unlike judaism that has the sabbath, christianity that honours the Sunday, muslims who pray at Friday, Evolution doesn't impose any ritual on any day of the week.
- It doesn't impose restrictions on food. Unlike muslims who have to eat hallal, or jews who have to eat koosher, Evolution doesn't impose anything. As it even doesn't impose any monopoly, you can even eat koosher/hallal and be an "evolutionist".
- It doesn't pray on the young. Unlike the three monotheistic religion who enlist babies before the age of reason (through baptism or circumcission) most people have their first contact with evolution around 14-15.
- It has never caused a war. Unlike the crusades, the Thirty years war, the Jihad, there has never been a war fighten over Evolution.
I thought evolutions holy book was darwins the origin of the species and richard dawkins is the high priest.
Dear meDear Steve, Good one. Some think Darwin was God and when they die they are going to the Galapagos Islands.
What driewerf doesn't say is that Religion is one's "belief" of what is the Truth. God's Truth agrees in every way with every discovery of Science and History, but the False Theory of Evolution does NOT agree in any way, with any other Truth. Thus, the unsupportable belief in the False ToE is a False Religion, pure and simple. God Bless you.
In Love,
Aman
You accept things you don't believe in?We do not "believe" in Darwin, nor in ToE, nor in any scientific theory. we "ACCEPT" it.
As I said to AV, the reason I don't accept a literal global flood or special creation of each living species in the same form they are now, is not just because there is no scientific evidence for those things, but the evidence available paints a completely different picture, and says that something completely different happened. I don't believe God would deceive us like that.
In order to deny, for example, the Resurrection, on similar grounds, I would need something like a complete video record of Jesus' death, complete with His body decaying in the tomb and not rising again. Obviously no such record exists.
But this is potentially problematic, isn't it? According to this test, a thousand years ago the scriptures would've contained far more literal content than they do today. I mean, as science continues to fill in the gaps in our knowledge, that will simply mean that the Bible will eventually contain nothing but metaphor, allegory, or story-telling.
You are playing with semantics AV. OK let us play then:You accept things you don't believe in?
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