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Yes, thanks to scientific progress, no reasonable person apprised of the data can any longer hold to a literal reading of G1. Which is why many contemporary Christians no longer do.
I agree with that.
But let me ask you something that puzzles me. How does one parse what parts of the Bible are supposed to be literal and what parts are not? I mean, if Genesis isn't supposed to be read literally, does that also apply to anything/everything else in the Bible? How do you know?
This is a good question and one that is critical to understanding the Bible. There are poetic, prophetic, literal and spiritual parts to the Bible and one needs to be aware of the essence of the book you are reading.
There are things you know. Correct. Things that are not debatable, or possible to change. Your existence. My existence. These are things that we know. WE don't change our opinion because it is a fact that we know. That is what we are looking at here. I know. I don't just believe, I know. So even if you don't understand that, you can't argue with me as to what I know and what I don't.
Of course. What would you consider this passage to be, poetic, prophetic, literal or spiritual?
"Truly I say to you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."
A la Ray Comfort, who also claims to "know," that God exists. Actually, my best friend claims the same.
If this is the case, how can he be perfectly just, as the Bible claims, when he allows some people this knowledge, but not others, when our very [eternal] existence is dependent on such knowledge?
Likewise, why is "faith" so tantamount in the Bible, if he provides some people with the means to perceive him, thereby negating the need for faith?
Genesis 1 states that plants were made before the Sun. Do you believe this to be the case?I believe that it is literal.
Genesis 1 states that plants were made before the Sun. Do you believe this to be the case?
I know that one must ask and God knows the motivation of the one asking. That is all I know. I have known that other like myself that didn't know if God existed or not were given that knowledge when we sincerely wanted to know.
That is literal. The literal meaning is that Jesus was died and rose again and went to sit on His throne (in His Kingdom). The death of Christ brought in the time of the gentiles with Jesus taking His place next to God the father. Those standing there saw Jesus after His death.
So he was just reassuring his followers that they wouldn't die during the next few days?
OK, follow-up questions.Yes.
OK, follow-up questions.
How do you reconcile this with mainstream science? Specifically, the conclusions that flowering plants first appeared 140 million years ago, while the Sun burst forth 4,500 million years ago.
Isn't it more probable that Genesis isn't literally accurate concerning the order of appearances vis-a-vis plants and stars - and, indeed, was never meant to be?
Since he used the word "some," can we assume a few did die then?
He doesn't say "some of you won't see me," instead he says "some of you won't taste death," implying that some would die over the next several days.
I know that one must ask and God knows the motivation of the one asking. That is all I know. I have known that other like myself that didn't know if God existed or not were given that knowledge when we sincerely wanted to know.
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