Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
Anyone who preaches YEC is the most obvious example. A guy like Hovind is making statements that are false, yet that doesn't stop him, because the appetite to tell people what they want to hear and be their hero, trumps all.
The Dover case to get ID in schools is another example, but not as blatant. In the end, under the guise of needing to produce evidence and be cross examined under oath, the fact that ID was only creation in disguise, became obvious.
ASTROLOGYWere you home schooled
Anyone who preaches YEC is the most obvious example. A guy like Hovind is making statements that are false, yet that doesn't stop him, because the appetite to tell people what they want to hear and be their hero, trumps all.
The Dover case to get ID in schools is another example, but not as blatant. In the end, under the guise of needing to produce evidence and be cross examined under oath, the fact that ID was only creation in disguise, became obvious.
I know, I couldn't resist. The ancient astronomers drew assumptions from the constellations. Based on their observations of the night sky, ancient astronomers determined that during the daytime, the Sun would appear to "enter" or pass through different constellations throughout the year. Because of their perspective from Earth, they observed that the Sun, the Moon and all the planets visible with the naked eye seemed to pass in the course of a year through a region in the sky occupied by twelve specific constellations. Those constellations are the ones that we would intersect if we extend the ecliptic plane out into space. These twelve constellations were called the Zodiac. Many ancient people believed that a person's behavior, emotions, and fate were heavily influenced by the time of that person's birth i.e. that person's zodiac sign. A stretch but I thought it might be a good tidbit. I'm impressed that you noticed. Some would have read it and missed it all together.
Anyone who preaches YEC is the most obvious example. A guy like Hovind is making statements that are false, yet that doesn't stop him, because the appetite to tell people what they want to hear and be their hero, trumps all.
Yes he does, a store bought degree.Does he have a degree?
Does he have a degree?
I have a wait to see attitude about that. ID has promise if everything that is determined can be shown to be from a solid scientific model.
I wonder if evolutionists shoot the messenger because creationists say evolution comes from the Devil, then shoot the devil?Yes he does, a store bought degree.
Now I know you're just playing with us and you're not really a creationist.
There is ignorance and there is ignorance but you pushed your feigned ignorance a little too far.
Yes?Does someone with a degree has the ability to make knowingly false statements?
Yes he does, a store bought degree.
Now I know you're just playing with us and you're not really a creationist.
There is ignorance and there is ignorance but you pushed your feigned ignorance a little too far.
Could you please explain why it matters if he has a degree? Does someone with a degree has the ability to make knowingly false statements?
Probably the rest of us assumed a mis-type. I guessed you meant astronomy.
If you're talking about Kent Hovind, he puts what he believes right up in the storefront window for everyone to see.Ok, I'll bite. what false statements did he knowingly make?
Well, I responded to a post about a sort of litmus test that WiccanChild said he sees as reasonable to parse literal and metaphorical content from the Bible. The problem that I brought up in that post is the same problem I will present to you now.
Basically what you're saying here is, if the Bible contradicts reality, then the passages doing the contradicting must not be literal.
To save time typing, I'll just copy/pasta my original response:
So basically, if you were more ignorant of the facts, you would be more likely to believe that the Bible should be read literally. As you gain knowledge, you read the Bible metaphorically (at least the parts that don't match up to what we currently know).
The Bible doesn't claim that each living species in the same form as they are now. In fact, it says there were these "kinds" prior to the kinds listed. That is very important. I don't believe God deceives us either and that is why you have to understand what is being said rather than standard Christian thinking. After its kind shows us that kinds can adapt and change and come around to the list we have in Genesis.
If you're talking about Kent Hovind, he puts what he believes right up in the storefront window for everyone to see.
He even uses a giant projector that shows evolutionist doctrine in textbooks, with key words highlighted in red, that either contradict each other, or have been falsified; and yet he is the one who gets called a "liar," and not the authors of the lies he is exposing.
(I only just found this post!)But this is potentially problematic, isn't it? According to this test, a thousand years ago the scriptures would've contained far more literal content than they do today. I mean, as science continues to fill in the gaps in our knowledge, that will simply mean that the Bible will eventually contain nothing but metaphor, allegory, or story-telling.
There is no missing link. Homo Sapiens sapiens is man, made in God's image. Apes were like neanderthal man but real man is different. Real man is Adam.
I believe God created the Big Bang, likely when He hovered over the deep. And this created the firmament and earth and heavenly bodies, etc.
I believe time came before God, but God created space, and spacetime, and therefore took over control of time.
I see no reason why science cannot corroborate the existence of God, or His word.
There is no missing link. Homo Sapiens sapiens is man, made in God's image. Apes were like neanderthal man but real man is different. Real man is Adam.
Literalists might have a problem reconciling science with creation, but I don't. Anyone who studies the Old Testament understands that symbolism is the primary element of it.
edit: ^Genesis is amazingly and divinely correct.
The problem is that (as far as I am aware), no creationists have rigorously defined the "kinds" and explained how they differ from species, and how they correspond to modern and extinct creatures.
If you're talking about Kent Hovind, he puts what he believes right up in the storefront window for everyone to see.
He even uses a giant projector that shows evolutionist doctrine in textbooks, with key words highlighted in red, that either contradict each other, or have been falsified; and yet he is the one who gets called a "liar," and not the authors of the lies he is exposing.
As the Bible says:
Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;
The term for what they do is shooting the messenger, and in Kent Hovind's case -- as well as those like DI, ICR, [the late] Henry M. Morris, Gail A. Riplinger, Jack Chick, Peter S. Ruckman, the Bible, and God -- they are good at it.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?