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Good, then apparently there are a lot of people in error in this thread. Probably both sides of the isle here as well, as I doubt from the comments that all of the Christians posting here agree with what I said either. Maybe these sorts of discussions tend to attract the fringe elements.
As to what one is claiming atheist know or not, my remark was based on comments by atheist in this thread and those comments do not support the opinion just expressed as to what atheist are claimed to know about Christians. In fact the comments here suggest to me a general ignorance on the part of at least some atheist as to what "most" Christians believe. Based on those observations alone am not sure why I should accept a contrary claim about what atheist are said to "know" about Christians. Assuming I am suppose to go by the evidence presented in this thread and not just unsupported opinions.First atheists do not reject God. We correctly point out that there is no reliable evidence for any gods. And no, we know that most Christians accept the theory of evolution.
Also atheists do not attempt to disprove the existence of gods. It is enough to point out that you have not met the burden of proof that is upon you as a theist. And lastly, nothing is "proven" in science. But if go by the legal standard of "proven beyond a reasonable doubt". Then by that standard the theory of evolution has been proven.
I never said that or claimed that no Christians have been led to think that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive, but since it is mentioned I would expect the numbers are not small, especially on the Protestant side of the house since the Church does not teach that.I have more than once seen the creationist side conflate creationists and Christians. Some creationists seem to believe that Christians cannot accept the theory of evolution. I have not seen any atheists make that mistake.
Do you think Satan is more powerful than God or is it because God doesn't care?
Not sure someone comparing our history with that of Islamic nations is in a position to properly talk to others about lessons from history.Which version of the creation would you like taught in schools there are hundreds of them? should each school teach a different one or should they teach as many as they can and because we don't know how god did it would just 'goddidit' suffice?
Speaking as a non American atheist I think creationism should be taught in every American school, in fact teaching it should be mandatory, of course I say that tongue in cheek because the last thing the world needs is another over zealous religious country like Iran with atomic weapons it can throw at people who do not agree with them.
Reply divided to address question directly.Which version of the creation would you like taught in schools there are hundreds of them? should each school teach a different one or should they teach as many as they can and because we don't know how god did it would just 'goddidit' suffice?
Oh. it's real alright. You only have to take a look at what is happening in this world to realise this. Make no mistake - satan is waging war against humanity on both the physical and spiritual fronts.Yeah. The longer I live, the more I feel that this world is really run by satan. I was told about this since I became a Christian. But never before I feel it so vivid and strong.
Why would and how could an atheist imagine what would or would not be a proper "kind of God" for a Christian to believe in?staff edit
What you said is ALL caused by non-creationists.
Do you know ANY government leader who is a creationist in either US or in Britain? I guess there is none. I think there is none in this world.
So, if you don't like the world, blame the non-creationists.
With your God doing nothing about it, Satan must be pretty big in the world of Gods because he seems to be able to do whatever he wants, what is the point of a God if Satan can overturn his plans? it doesn't sound like the kind of God who deserves to be worshipped, either that or it's all a load of hogwash.
GWB was. Rick Perry is. Most southern Govenors and elected officials are. The leaders of a number of the hardcore Muslim countries probably are.
Muslims are no creationists.
A few political leaders in the US were or are (you forgot Ronald Reagan). But they can not fight the much bigger crowd of non-creationists (I love Rick Perry. But you can see what happened to him in the presidential race). Even that, they made the US special and stands out in the world.
Gotta correct you there brother. By definition creationist simply means a deity is responsible for the existence of this world. If we narrow that definition to the Christian understanding of God, then we could perhaps exclude the Muslims. However most people consider Islam as believing a god created this world.Muslims are no creationists.
A few political leaders in the US were or are (you forgot Ronald Reagan). But they can not fight the much bigger crowd of non-creationists (I love Rick Perry. But you can see what happened to him in the presidential race). Even that, they made the US special and stands out in the world.
I think the "non-creationists" are becoming more and more frustrated because their pseudo-science is being rejected by more and more people as they discover the truth behind the hype, despite the almost total bias in the mass media in favour of evolutionism, so the secularists/evolutionists/non-creationists, whatever you want to call them, are having to resort to mud slinging like this. Actually, politics is a good profession for non-creationists because, as you have probably noticed, politicians hardly ever give a straight answer to a question!
The hardcore Muslims must believe the world was created by some supreme being or beings. Yeah, I thought of Rompin' Ronnie, but I wasn't sure. Yes, the USA is a "special" country. And getting more "special" by the day.
Gotta correct you there brother. By definition creationist simply means a deity is responsible for the existence of this world. If we narrow that definition to the Christian understanding of God, then we could perhaps exclude the Muslims. However most people consider Islam as believing a god created this world.
Unless it's not your church that's suddenly in charge.
A nation should be built under an unified religion.
A classical communist country is an acceptable example. The whole nation does not believe any god. Any religious group in a communist country does not have any political power.
I thought 75% of Americans were supposed to be Christians so how come the US is in so much trouble? why are Christians suffering so much and why is Satan having such a ball in the US and very little success in Europe?
Has your God abandoned the Middle East and handed it over to Satan?
How do you know that Satan is the bad one and your God is the good one? it sounds as if your God is not as all powerful as you would like to think he is.
By the way, you are more powerful than your God......... because you can make him disappear just by changing your mind.
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