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Could anyone tell me if this is true?
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How would you suggest I go about that? should I go on a Christian forum then go to where I know creationists are and ask,
Do American creationist go to creationist doctors?
Could that work? what do you think?
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I think the "non-creationists" are becoming more and more frustrated because their pseudo-science is being rejected by more and more people as they discover the truth behind the hype, despite the almost total bias in the mass media in favour of evolutionism, so the secularists/evolutionists/non-creationists, whatever you want to call them, are having to resort to mud slinging like this. Actually, politics is a good profession for non-creationists because, as you have probably noticed, politicians hardly ever give a straight answer to a question!
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Who is doing the crime, Christians or others? Take one of the latest shootings in America - who was the gunman specifically targeting? Yes, that's right, Christians. Which group in the middle east is being persecuted more than any other? Yes, that's correct again, Christians.
It depends as well on what you mean by crime. If beheadings, throwing acid over rejected arranged-marriage partners, stoning people to death or sentencing people to 1,000 lashes for merely voicing an opinion count as crimes, which countries, Christian or non-Christian do you think these despicable acts are occuring in?
Christians are being targeted more than ever, because Satan knows his time is running out and he's out to cause as much mayhem as possible in the time he has left. And it's not just physical things - he's also the grand deceiver and has been ever since he whispered to Eve in the Garden, "Did God really say...? He will use any method he possible can to make people believe that God does not exist, but he won't win, because God is far more powerful and Satan will be cast into the lake of fire when God comes back to earth.
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Evidence?
You'll forgive me if I'm somewhat skeptical, but creationists have been saying that 'more and more' people are rejecting evolution for over a centurty, but it never seems to really pan out.
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It is either a 3-layer non-expandable clay mineral or a group of mica minerals (a potassium aluminium silicate) that is derived from the weathering of muscovite and feldspar. It is used in the manufacture of bricks and sewer pipes, and in moulding sands.
Do you want to continue this discussion?
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I don't think so somehow, if they went to a doctor and all he did was ask them to pray with him I think they would walk out,
illness brings creationists face to face with the reality they would normally shun, medicines that work in this life work better than prayer every time, prayer may be good for the soul but not the body.
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Yeah. The longer I live, the more I feel that this world is really run by satan. I was told about this since I became a Christian. But never before I feel it so vivid and strong.
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No problem. But I forgot why did I ask you that. I dug a few pages back but could not find why did it happen.
If you want to, then please remind me about it.
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Why would the atheist have to assume a "creationist" must reject the theory of evolution?
I could understand the atheist rejecting the idea that God had anything to do with our existence, but it makes no sense to suggest that just because all Christians know He is the first cause of all that is, that it follows that all Christians must reject the theory of evolution. Given an atheist can no more "prove" evolution to be true than disprove that God has a hand in our existence, am also unclear why we should see our schools as unable to promote both ideas. And that true whether the ideas are presented as complimentary or not. Personally I have never understood the notion, whether it is promoted by Christian fundamentalist or atheist, that it would make sense to suggest knowledge must be opposed to Truth or vice versa.
I could understand the atheist rejecting the idea that God had anything to do with our existence, but it makes no sense to suggest that just because all Christians know He is the first cause of all that is, that it follows that all Christians must reject the theory of evolution. Given an atheist can no more "prove" evolution to be true than disprove that God has a hand in our existence, am also unclear why we should see our schools as unable to promote both ideas. And that true whether the ideas are presented as complimentary or not. Personally I have never understood the notion, whether it is promoted by Christian fundamentalist or atheist, that it would make sense to suggest knowledge must be opposed to Truth or vice versa.
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Good, then apparently there are a lot of people in error in this thread. Probably both sides of the isle here as well, as I doubt from the comments that all of the Christians posting here agree with what I said either. Maybe these sorts of discussions tend to attract the fringe elements.
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First atheists do not reject God. We correctly point out that there is no reliable evidence for any gods. And no, we know that most Christians accept the theory of evolution.
Also atheists do not attempt to disprove the existence of gods. It is enough to point out that you have not met the burden of proof that is upon you as a theist. And lastly, nothing is "proven" in science. But if go by the legal standard of "proven beyond a reasonable doubt". Then by that standard the theory of evolution has been proven.
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