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Convince me of Arminianism

DeaconDean

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You guys still have grasped the point.

The Old Testament was written to the Hebrews. Of whom. God led out of exile.

"The Old Testament was written particularly to the Jews, whom God called out from all the nations to be his special people (e.g. Deuteronomy 7:6); and so, Paul speaks of the privilege of the Jews as being very great, and consisting most especially in this, that they were given the oracles of God (Romans 3:1-2). Elsewhere, Paul consistently speaks of the Jews as having a definite temporal priority in God's redemptive design (just as Christ had taught before him, cf. Matthew 15:24), declaring that the gospel was for the Jew first, and only afterwards for the Gentile (Romans 1:16-17).

However, the Jews ought to have recognized and embraced Christ, because they had been instructed of him in the scriptures; and indeed, their forefathers, to whom the gospel first came, looked ahead to Christ in true faith and rejoiced (e.g. John 8:56; Hebrews 11:13-16); but as a whole, they rejected him instead, and so all those who disbelieved were cast off. But even this rejection and casting-off of the majority of the Jews was not without a purpose; for Paul teaches that, according to God's plan, the Gentiles would be brought in to know God's mercy through the stumbling of the Jews. Thus, many Jews would be broken off from God's people, but his nation would then be expanded, as many Gentiles were grafted into Israel by faith (see Romans 11).

This means that true Israel, and the true Jewish people, are not simply those ethnically descended from Abraham, but they are rather the remnant of ethnic Jews who believe, together with those Gentiles who have been made a part of true Israel through faith. Thus, the New Testament often speaks of Christians, whether Jew or Gentile, as the true Jews (e.g. Romans 2:28-29; 4:11-17; 9:6-8; Galatians 3:6-9, 26-29; 4:21-31; 6:16; Ephesians 2:11-22; 3:6; Phil. 3:3; 1 Pet. 2:9-10; Rev. 2:9). This means that all the promises and teachings of the Old Testament scriptures, which were written for the Jews, belong to us who are in Christ, the one true Seed of Abraham (Gal. 3:16), for we are now Abraham's children through faith, and thus heirs of the promises made to Abraham and his offspring (Gal. 3:26-29)."

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It wasn't until after the cross that Gentiles were included, and "ingrafted". And because of us being ingrafted by way of salvation in Jesus Christ, that makes us "the seed of Abraham". But only after the point of salvation. That makes us part of the blessings only.

As shown above, Paul explains this several times in the New Testament.

You cannot produce one scripture from the Old Testament where tells the "Gentiles? to "choose good over evil" because it does not exist!

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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One other thought here.

If you are going to pull text out of context and try to apply them to us today, why haven't any of you done what was asked in Deut. 6?

"You shall bind them as a sign on your hand and they shall be as frontals on your forehead." -Deut. 6:8 (KJV)

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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Hi!

I have deeply studied both Calvinism and Arminianism and could never personally come to a conclusion myself. I believe it is a given that God must predestine things to a degree, though I don’t think he necessarily micromanages the universe or history.

I do find the Calvinist Perspective quite compelling, but I would like to debate with an Arminian to accurately hear their side and see if they can convince me of it.

Let’s start with grace. Resistible or irresistible, and why?

Actually, they probably can't because both are wrong. Both theologies are just ideas imposed on the Bible. I suspect that's why you couldn't come to a conclusion on either.
 
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