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How could the problems of oral transmission apply to a document that is not the product of oral tradition? So, yes, your Constitution is exempt because it was written down and signed, and the original is still available for comparison.Does that include our constitution, which is now over two centuries old?
Or is our constitution somehow exempt?
How could the problems of oral transmission apply to a document that is not the product of oral tradition? So, yes, your Constitution is exempt because it was written down and signed, and the original is still available for comparison.
Where we do see the problems of oral tradition coming into play is in the bizarre beliefs that maga republicans openly and persistently promote as being part of the Constitution, each parroting, the other and seemingly having as their original source the Donald.
.. and that's coming from someone who bases all historical dating on Usher's academic take on chronology.Then the idea of the book of Numbers getting Arab phoned can take a hike.
Let's say academia's lie is correct; and 20,000 crossed the Red Sea -- (or went around it during sjastro's phantom sand storm that occurred one thousand years prior to Persia's legitimate sand storm).
Then, one hundred years later, retrospective falsification sets in and they start claiming it was 30,000 that escaped from Egypt.
Any priest could simply go to the book of Numbers, housed in the Temple, and look up the correct number and make the person or persons claiming it was 30,000 recant.
Neogaia says his article says 20,000.
And when I asked him if said article specified how many from each of the tribes -- (like the Bible does) -- he said it does.
And I'm having a hard time believing that.
But even if the article does, then the article not only Arab Phones the total from 603,550 to 20,000; but the article Arab Phones each of the twelve tribes total numbers as well.
And this is exactly the kind of shenanigans I'm talking about, when I say academia will chisel, force-fit, move the decimal place, and/or do anything it can to make their ideas fit.
In this case, I think it's called number crunching.
.. and that's coming from someone who bases all historical dating on Usher's academic take on chronology.
(A calculator directly resulting from academic research ..)I did it myself with a calculator and got nearly the same results as he did.
(As usual, a false equivalancy ..)So, as I say, I use his numbers for the sake of Occam's razor.
(A calculator directly resulting from academic research ..)
Consistent .. (if you were to actually think about it).If using a calculator makes me a hypocrite, what does using a computer make you?
Ya -- you academians should, in my opinion, stick to the political threads and leave us to handle your junk science.
At least in the political threads, you guys can rant & rave without having to face the music of a Sourc
I gave up half way through. Neogaia is exploring his belief system more than exploring the historical accuracy of Exodus. I wish him well on that exploration. I became more involved in it than I would, in retrospect, have wished.Then the idea of the book of Numbers getting Arab phoned can take a hike.
Let's say academia's lie is correct; and 20,000 crossed the Red Sea -- (or went around it during sjastro's phantom sand storm that occurred one thousand years prior to Persia's legitimate sand storm).
Then, one hundred years later, retrospective falsification sets in and they start claiming it was 30,000 that escaped from Egypt.
Any priest could simply go to the book of Numbers, housed in the Temple, and look up the correct number and make the person or persons claiming it was 30,000 recant.
Neogaia says his article says 20,000.
And when I asked him if said article specified how many from each of the tribes -- (like the Bible does) -- he said it does.
And I'm having a hard time believing that.
But even if the article does, then the article not only Arab Phones the total from 603,550 to 20,000; but the article Arab Phones each of the twelve tribes total numbers as well.
And this is exactly the kind of shenanigans I'm talking about, when I say academia will chisel, force-fit, move the decimal place, and/or do anything it can to make their ideas fit.
In this case, I think it's called number crunching.
Since you know how to use a calculator, work out the creation date based on the genealogies found in Matthew and Luke.I did it myself with a calculator and got nearly the same results as he did.
So, as I say, I use his numbers for the sake of Occam's razor.
Posing silly questions, I think, appears to be a kind of last-ditch attempt, at regaining some twisted sense of self-satisfaction(?)It's pedantic of me I know, but when I see such flagrant nonsense its difficult for me not to comment. If you want to avoid such interventions from me in future don't ask such silly questions.
I responded to your post because you had asked the astoundingly silly question as to why the Constitution had not been corrupted by oral transmission. It's pedantic of me I know, but when I see such flagrant nonsense its difficult for me not to comment. If you want to avoid such interventions from me in future don't ask such silly questions.
Since you know how to use a calculator, work out the creation date based on the genealogies found in Matthew and Luke.
I got the wrong answer, did I?
Instead of making yourself look bad, why don't you do the math yourself?
Again, all you need is a calculator and Genesis 5, Genesis 10, and 1 Chronicles 1-9.
And if your answer differs with mine, and mine differs with Usher, then simply employ Occam's razor.
Posing silly questions, I think, appears to be a kind of last-ditch attempt, at regaining some twisted sense of self-satisfaction(?)
The US Constitution originates from the principle of empowering human freedoms.I'm glad you feel the way you do about my example (the Constitution).
Because that's the way I feel when someone tells me the Bible is an example of retrospective falsification.
The difference is that I have never stated explicitly or implicitly that the Bible is an example of retrospective falsification. Nor have I even seriously entertained the notion that it met the criteria to be considered an example of retrospective falsification. Whereas you assuredly, on record, explicitly asked your question concerning the impact of oral transmission on the US Constitution.I'm glad you feel the way you do about my example (the Constitution).
Because that's the way I feel when someone tells me the Bible is an example of retrospective falsification.
The US Constitution originates from the principle of empowering human freedoms.
The Bible originates from the principle of subjugating humans .. irrespective of supposed retrospections.
The difference is that I have never stated explicitly or implicitly that the Bible is an example of retrospective falsification.
If I wanted to look bad I would only have to copy the master. I tip my hat to you. And I think its time to take another rest from your obfuscations olfactory effusions and avoidance tactics par excellence. Bon voyage.Can't say as I blame you for that.
I wouldn't want any part of that either.
You'd make yourself look bad.
Ok I'll bite .. why should this book of Numbers not be taken as also being subject to your, (somehow offensive), slang term of 'Arab phoning'?Then test it this way:
Write the words to the Star Spangled Banner down, give it to someone to read, and have them write it down and give to someone else to read, etc. and so on.
Then compare the last person's version to the original.
Aren't you guys supposed to test everything?
Take your own advice.
Try it.
I dare you.
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