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Goatee

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Thing is, you are picking passages out of the Bible to suit yourself and reading them out of context!

How can you say you are not a sinner?

Once saved always saved is quite false as God expects a follower to 'put the effort in' and if one sins to repent and seek forgiveness.

With Jesus, 'man' is given a way to be forgiven, to be absolved. It is through Jesus suffering and dying on the cross that opened the way for 'man' to be saved from sin. Does not mean that we can commit murder and get away with it!

We have to constantly turn to God and ask for forgiveness of our sins.
 
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And how can you say that you are with verse after verse stating that you are no longer a sinner? Do you not realize that Jesus Christ has payed the price for each and every ones sin? In the word of God if you tell a lie, you are no better that a murder, thief, etc. "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all"(James 2:10). So if you lie you are also a murder according to the law, that is why Jesus Christ abolished, blotted it out. God created all men equal, and if he died, he died for all(2 Corinthians 5:14-15).
 
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I have not stated i am no longer a sinner! Look under my avatar!

Are you a sinner buddy?

Do 'you' need to repent to be forgiven?
 
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I have not stated i am no longer a sinner! Look under my avatar!

Are you a sinner buddy?

Do 'you' need to repent to be forgiven?
REALLY, Dude I have stated that I do not sin and cannot sin, I have been made free from sin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And given you the verses of God's own word of the scripture stating so(1 John 3:9 and Romans 6:18 and Romans 6:22). I have repented, and it is a one time decision!
 
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I have not stated i am no longer a sinner! Look under my avatar!

Are you a sinner buddy?

Do 'you' need to repent to be forgiven?
You do realize that every time that you repent you crucify Jesus Christ afresh and put him to an open shame? Hebrews 6:6.
 
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I never said I was a sinner. I've been made free from the penalty of sin. But like you, I still fall short of perfection. Falling short of God's perfect standard is what sin is. My identity is as a Saint in Christ. But that doesn't mean I'm without failings. And those failings, however small, miss the mark of God's perfect standard. In that sense, I still "sin."

Here's a sin God hates: Arrogant (haughty) eyes: This describes a feeling of pride and looking down upon others. Even a hint of this sort of thing is sinful. We ought not to think more highly of ourselves. A humble spirit is honoring to God.

Here's another: A man who stirs up dissension among brothers: Brothers are created by God to live in unity (Psalm 133:1;1 Thessalonians 4:9).

I see this sort of thing happening a lot from professing Christians. We are going to disagree on certain matters. It's how we disagree that matters.

I'll leave you with this: I John 1:8 "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." John is writing to Christians.
 
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I did not know that. I'm not surprised however. Tolerant Hollywood and all.

i was shocked that he got fired for giving his opinion.

kinda' scary that he was fired, not for his performance, but for giving his opinion at a political rally.

Whoever fired him needs to be held accountable for violating his rights and sticking their nose where it doesn't belong...
 
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Read The Silencing by Kirsten Powers. His firing fits the tactics of the (as she calls them) illiberal left.
 
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Yes, and later on in 1 John what is he telling us. You are reading a verse from the first part of 1 John and not taking all of 1 John into context 1 John 3:9 is after what has stated in 1 John 1:8. I do not say that we are with out sin, for all have sinned(Romans 3:23) but that our sin was hung on the cross, were it should be left there. Realize that the Bible(a book of many books) is like any book, it has a beginning, middle and end.
 
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So then, from the moment of your salvation, you haven't fallen short even a microscopic measure? You've lived a perfect sinless life from that very moment? As sinless as Christ?
 
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For I dwell in him, and He dwells in me(John 6:54-56).
 
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For I dwell in him, and He dwells in me(John 6:54-56).
You didn't answer my question.

*So then, from the moment of your salvation, you haven't fallen short even a microscopic measure? Answer yes or no.
*You've lived a perfect sinless life from that very moment? Answer yes or no.
*As sinless as Christ? Answer yes or no.
 
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Sorry I thought that I did say yes, by giving you God's word.
 
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Sorry I thought that I did say yes, by giving you God's word.

Of course you didn't answer the questions. You still haven't addressed them directly. Are you afraid?

*So then, from the moment of your salvation, you haven't fallen short even a microscopic measure? Answer yes or no.
*You've lived a perfect sinless life from that very moment? Answer yes or no.
*As sinless as Christ? Answer yes or no.

You have three questions and they require three answers. Ready? Go.
 
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For the third time-Sorry I thought that I did say yes, by giving you God's word.
 
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For the third time-Sorry I thought that I did say yes, by giving you God's word.

OK, so you can't answer the question directly or refuse to. So I will answer your questions for you.

*So then, from the moment of your salvation, you haven't fallen short even a microscopic measure? Answer yes or no.
Simple, yes you have fallen short of perfection from the moment of salvation. We all have. You did not become sinless in the sense that you never sin. You have likely lied in some way. Perhaps you had a thought you ought not to have had. Or you used language that you ought not to have used. And even in this forum, you have looked down on others (including me) in your attitude because we disagree with you on this question. Arrogant (haughty) eyes: This describes a feeling of pride and looking down upon others. Even a hint of this sort of thing is sinful. We ought not to think more highly of ourselves. A humble spirit is honoring to God. You've offered more than a hint IMO.

*You've lived a perfect sinless life from that very moment? Answer yes or no.
Of course you haven't.

*As sinless as Christ? Answer yes or no.
Um, NO.
 
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Do I think that I am better than anyone else, or that anyone is better than myself-NO, God created all men equal and we(you, me and every other person that has ever walked the earth) are all one in Christ Jesus, to some he gave a better understanding than to others(these are called gifts). And God's word is to be used for correction in righteousness.
 
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