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Constitution's "Natural Born" riddle solved! Read the shocking truth here!

Maren

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When Barack Obama Jr. was born, he was a reward from God to his Father. He was given his Father's name, because he belonged to his Father. Kenya had a moral obligation to recognize him as a citizen, because he was God's reward to one of their own native sons.

For all of these reasons, he was a natural born citizen of Kenya, not the USA, and is thus not constitutionally eligible to serve as our President.

You do realize, don't you, that there was no country called "Kenya" at the time Obama was born? As such, Obama is not and never has been Kenyan.
 
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You do realize, don't you, that there was no country called "Kenya" at the time Obama was born? As such, Obama is not and never has been Kenyan.
Maren, do you have any opinion or are you familiar with the Congressional Research Report (CRS) on Barrack Hussein Obama’s eligibility status?
 
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When Barack Obama Jr. was born, he was a reward from God to his Father. He was given his Father's name, because he belonged to his Father. Kenya had a moral obligation to recognize him as a citizen, because he was God's reward to one of their own native sons.
Woo and sentimentality don't count for much before the law. Obama was in the position of being able to claim Kenyan citizenship or US citizenship. His mother claimed US citizenship for him as a minor and he has kept it as an adult. He has always been a US citizen, but never a Kenyan citizen. He could have been a Kenyan citizen, but he never was. Is this hard for you to understand?

For all of these reasons, he was a natural born citizen of Kenya, not the USA, and is thus not constitutionally eligible to serve as our President.
Actually, he is a natural born citizen of the USA because he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii after it gained statehood. He was eligible for Kenyan citizenship, but he declined it.
 
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Maren, do you have any opinion or are you familiar with the Congressional Research Report (CRS) on Barrack Hussein Obama’s eligibility status?

If you notice, they say pretty much what I've said. It is the Congress' responsibility to raise objections during the joint session to approve the vote of the Electoral College, per the Constitution, if they believe the President is not qualified. As you know, no Congressmen or Senators objected.

While I'm sure you will point out that the report claims the President is technically un-vetted by the States, the fact remains neither body of Congress has raised any objections -- even with the Republican majority in the House. The report further states that this is where any challenges to President Obama needs to originate -- again, as I've stated all along.

Last, if you notice, the report pretty much concludes that Obama is a natural born citizen per the legal rulings that currently determine "natural born citizenship" -- even if he was born in the British Protectorate of Kenya.
 
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Woo and sentimentality don't count for much before the law. Obama was in the position of being able to claim Kenyan citizenship or US citizenship. His mother claimed US citizenship for him as a minor and he has kept it as an adult. He has always been a US citizen, but never a Kenyan citizen. He could have been a Kenyan citizen, but he never was. Is this hard for you to understand?

The Natural Born clause is about what is natural, not what is legal. What is natural is determined by God, not by man. His Father's people were obliged to recognize him as one of their own, because he was God's reward to one of their own. This is why, in order to be "natural born", your father needs to be American.
 
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The Natural Born clause is about what is natural, not what is legal.

And what exactly does the "Natural Born clause" of the US Constitution say?

What is natural is determined by God, not by man.

Which means determined by God, not by you.

So only God has standing to challenge Obama's citizenship -- wake us when He gets here.
 
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His country was occupied, but it existed, and the people his Father belonged to existed.

Of course his father existed, and the land that is currently the country of Kenya existed. But his father wasn't a Kenyan citizen when Obama was born, therefore Obama in not a Kenyan citizen.
 
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Of course his father existed, and the land that is currently the country of Kenya existed. But his father wasn't a Kenyan citizen when Obama was born, therefore Obama in not a Kenyan citizen.
Barry's daddy was a British subject in perpetual existance until the Kenya became independent.

Barry's daddy was not under the United States jurisdiction other than state conduct law.

Barry was born a dual citizen regardless of where he was actually exiting from the womb.

His daddy was not a citizen of the USA.

Got it?

End of discussion.


;)
 
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Herbie the only thing that should end the discussion here is this:

You've been insisting this ever since before the man took office and NO ONE is on your side anymore. Congress declared he is a natural born citizen. NO ONE from this Congress or the last has objected to his eligibility. There was more objection to MCCAIN'S eligibility.
 
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Herbie the only thing that should end the discussion here is this:

You've been insisting this ever since before the man took office and NO ONE is on your side anymore. Congress declared he is a natural born citizen. NO ONE from this Congress or the last has objected to his eligibility. There was more objection to MCCAIN'S eligibility.
I shall continue until they strip this snake oil salesman of the right to draw funds from our government to protect him anymore.

NO ONE is on your side anymore.
Cheney didn't ask about objections to Obama like he did in 2005.

I have become uncomfortable ever since.
 
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Barry's daddy was a British subject in perpetual existance until the Kenya became independent.

Barry's daddy was not under the United States jurisdiction other than state conduct law.

Barry was born a dual citizen regardless of where he was actually exiting from the womb.

His daddy was not a citizen of the USA.

Got it?

End of discussion.


;)

I never stated that he couldn't have been a British dual citizen, just get tired of people claiming that he is a Kenyan citizen. Neither of which changes the fact that he is, per most legal interpretations (including the CRS report you mentioned, as well as Congress), a natural born citizen.
 
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Foreign nationals that never tried to “naturalize” were never permitted to produce CiC of the USA on our soil.

End of discussion!

;0) (emph. added)

Oh Herbie, you and I both know you've never "discussed" this issue.
discuss said:
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–verb (used with object) 1. to consider or examine by argument, comment, etc.; talk over or write about, especially to explore solutions; debate: to discuss the proposed law on taxes.

2. Civil Law . a. to collect a debt from (the person primarily liable) before proceeding against the person secondarily liable.

b. to execute against the movable property of (a debtor) before proceeding against the debtor's immovable property, as land.



3. Rare . to consume (food or drink) enthusiastically.




See? To "discuss" implies you are open to the idea that you could be wrong about this subject. When something you claim is shown to be wrong to the point where even you can see it's not true, you simply drop that argument and move on to the next myth based argument that pops up. In the end? The myth never changes "Obama is not supposed to be President!" you just try another set of arguments that will, in the end, prove to be just as wrong as the last set. :wave:
tulc(seriously needs another cup of coffee) :sigh:
 
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Oh Herbie, you and I both know you've never "discussed" this issue.





See? To "discuss" implies you are open to the idea that you could be wrong about this subject. When something you claim is shown to be wrong to the point where even you can see it's not true, you simply drop that argument and move on to the next myth based argument that pops up. In the end? The myth never changes "Obama is not supposed to be President!" you just try another set of arguments that will, in the end, prove to be just as wrong as the last set. :wave:
tulc(seriously needs another cup of coffee) :sigh:

Are they driving you bananas tulc?

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Foreign nationals that never tried to “naturalize” were never permitted to produce CiC of the USA on our soil.

End of discussion!

;0)

I'll believe it when I see it!

I shall continue until they strip this snake oil salesman of the right to draw funds from our government to protect him anymore.


Cheney didn't ask about objections to Obama like he did in 2005.

I have become uncomfortable ever since.

NOT!
 
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How about serving this country via military as one of the requirements to being our commander and chief?

Sounds great, all you need is an Amendment to the Constitution and it can be so.
 
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