Conspiracy or insanity?

[OldWiseGuy]

As a nation we are fraught with seemingly unsolvable problems; crime, the economy, health, race relations, etc. Through the various government agencies tasked with addressing these problems we spend billions each year with little to show for the money or the efforts. It is said that 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result'.

So the question is are we insane, or is there a conspiracy at work in this regard?

 

[pescador]

As a nation we are fraught with seemingly unsolvable problems; crime, the economy, health, race relations, etc. Through the various government agencies tasked with addressing these problems we spend billions each year with little to show for the money or the efforts. It is said that 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result'.

So the question is are we insane, or is there a conspiracy at work in this regard?

Neither. Next...

 

[Hank77]

As a nation we are fraught with seemingly unsolvable problems; crime, the economy, health, race relations, etc. Through the various government agencies tasked with addressing these problems we spend billions each year with little to show for the money or the efforts. It is said that 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result'.

So the question is are we insane, or is there a conspiracy at work in this regard?

You know as well as I do that these things are getting better even though it doesn't seem that way. Crime rates are down, more people have healthcare, there are more women and minorities in leadership positions in both business and government, and racial relations are definitely better.
How many interracial couples/marriages did we see in the 60's compared to now? Both white supremacists and black supremacists don't like it but that's just a fact. They are trying to turn back the progress we have made, shame on them.

So no, we aren't yet where we should be and need to be in order to have the nation that most of us would be happy with.

 

[Sabertooth]

So the question is are we insane, or is there a conspiracy at work in this regard?

Sin x "Love of money"

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You know as well as I do that these things are getting better even though it doesn't seem that way. Crime rates are down, more people have healthcare, there are more women and minorities in leadership positions in both business and government, and racial relations are definitely better.
How many interracial couples/marriages did we see in the 60's compared to now? Both white supremacists and black supremacists don't like it but that's just a fact. They are trying to turn back the progress we have made, shame on them.

So no, we aren't yet where we should be and need to be in order to have the nation that most of us would be happy with.

You are more optimistic than I am. We are also likely looking at different metrics, for example;

You: More people have healthcare.

Me: People are increasingly unhealthy (regardless of having health insurance, which in many cases is too expensive to utilize due to high co-pays and deductibles).

Also, "more women and minorities in leadership positions" doesn't translate to better leadership.

 

[d taylor]

Not sure, in the town i live in (+14,000) last weekend we had 4 murders. Last year we had 23 total murders

Now every politician in town wants to talk about what to do. But they will never solve this problem, it may eventually go away, but that will be because it just did, not because anyone did anything.

 

[Hank77]

Me: People are increasingly unhealthy.

I agree, and more needs to be done to correct it. That's something we can address by better education in schools and public announcements in media.

Maybe the pharma companies who sell their products consistently on TV and written media should be induced to sell good eating habits as well.
"If you eat this way you may never have to buy our insulin."

 

[timothyu]

Perhaps headway would be made if the 'conspiracies' were taken seriously. If so much effort is put into downplaying them, then perhaps there is something there after all considering the desperation to discredit them. Remember all the world is built upon lies, and the best liars determine what is truth. Look how in one year what was ridiculed even here, is now being 'officially' considered as possibilities. It all depends on who outmanoeuvres who in controlling the narrative.

 

[pescador]

Not sure, in the town i live in (+14,000) last weekend we had 4 murders. Last year we had 23 total murders

Now every politician in town wants to talk about what to do. But they will never solve this problem, it may eventually go away, but that will be because it just did, not because anyone did anything.

Terrible! If possible I would move from there ASAP. There are many places to live where people act with more love and compassion than live like predatory animals.

 

[timothyu]

There are many places to live where people act with more love and compassion than live like predatory animals.

If predators are left to themselves they will end up turning on each other and as their communities grow, it becomes a national threat/division rather than a local one. Better to nip it in the bud at a local level instead of leaving them to themselves to expand and prosper. We've already seen what happens when neighbourhoods are left to the gangs, or worse yet to the self serving movements that arise. Before you know it they are seen as a power with a political voice that can eventually turn the tables on society as we are seeing now.

 

[Hank77]

Also, "more women and minorities in leadership positions" doesn't translate to better leadership.

I didn't mean better leadership but better equality between the sexes and the races.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I agree, and more needs to be done to correct it. That's something we can address by better education in schools and public announcements in media.

Maybe the pharma companies who sell their products consistently on TV and written media should be induced to sell good eating habits as well.
"If you eat this way you may never have to buy our insulin."

Big pharma sells you one drug for your illness and 5 more to deal with the successive side effects.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I didn't mean better leadership but better equality between the sexes and the races.

Wouldn't better leadership be the point? Otherwise you're just rearranging the deck chairs.

 

[d taylor]

Terrible! If possible I would move from there ASAP. There are many places to live where people act with more love and compassion than live like predatory animals.

Nowhere to go i am living with my 92 year old mom looking after her. Plus i have 25 years where i work and just a few more and i will retire.

 

[Hank77]

Wouldn't better leadership be the point? Otherwise you're just rearranging the deck chairs.

The idea is that white men aren't the only people that are intelligent leadership material and now, not like before, women and minorities have a fair shot at getting those positions.

 

[Hank77]

Nowhere to go i am living with my 92 year old mom looking after her. Plus i have 25 years where i work and just a few more and i will retire.

How far is your town from the closest city?
Were those four murders four separate incidents?

 

[d taylor]

How far is your town from the closest city?
Were those four murders four separate incidents?

Not sure what you mean by how far is my town from the closest city.

I think so, i has gotten so, i really do not pay much attention to detail just basically read a head line.

 

[d taylor]

Local paper
Home | The Greenwood Commonwealth

 

[Hank77]

@d taylor Local paper
[URL='https://www.gwcommonwealth.com/']Home | The Greenwood Commonwealth][/URL]

Yike, I wouldn't want to live there.

[I]With a [B]crime rate[/B] of 57 per one thousand residents, [B]Greenwood[/B] has one of the highest [B]crime rates[/B] in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property [B]crime[/B] here is one in 17.[/I]
[URL='https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ms/greenwood/crime']Greenwood, MS Crime Rates and Statistics - NeighborhoodScout[/URL]

 

[timothyu]

I didn't mean better leadership but better equality between the sexes and the races.

So quantity not quality? How would that apply to your purchases? Better to have an endless supply of sub-standard products to replace the sub-standard products? MLK's idea of 'content of character' should be set aside for general equality?