Donald Trump has an excellent suggestion for Syria. Let Assad and his Russian buddies destroy ISIS in Syria, and then let the USA pick up the pieces. In the meantime, the USA destroys ISIS in Iraq. Makes perfect sense.
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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So do you want the US to rule Iraq and Syria for the next hundred or more years? We're supposed to act like an empire now? Because that's what it would take. Whoever fills that power vacuum has to have the political will to stay there and rule the place with an iron fist. This is because they gave democracy a try, and tribal loyalties and grievances completely undermined it. Whoever is in charge when the dust settles will be a strongman dictator of whatever region.
We don't have the political will to do that. This was amply demonstrated in 2003-2008. Furthermore, our occupation brought Al Qaida into Iraq, which was the seed of this crisis. Furthermore, most of the Iraqis didn't want us there, Sunni or Shiite. They can't agree on how to govern a country, but they can agree that they don't want foreigners ruling it, enough for many of them to fight. So if we don't want to be there, and they don't want us there, how is this plan of Mr. Trump's supposed to work?
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If a country can't even take care of it's own poor, then it has no business taking in refugees.
That's simply a reality that needs to sink in- Americans should come first, and any citizen of any other country.
And especially America- get the homeless off the street first before you let others in, having a dumb smile of righteousness on your face to show off.
This is what makes me angry of the 1st World. What the Pope doesn't understand is that helping them vs your own countrymen is in and of itself 'narcissism', which he condemned all through his visit to America.
That's simply a reality that needs to sink in- Americans should come first, and any citizen of any other country.
And especially America- get the homeless off the street first before you let others in, having a dumb smile of righteousness on your face to show off.
This is what makes me angry of the 1st World. What the Pope doesn't understand is that helping them vs your own countrymen is in and of itself 'narcissism', which he condemned all through his visit to America.
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That's not such a bad idea when you think about it. Since they have not been able to get their act together for centuries, someone should show them what can be done is less than 100 years.
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Common sense lesson #1
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The Pope has not invited the refugees to the precincts of the Vatican with its vast resources (other than a couple of families). So you know that he is simply another hypocrite parading as a spiritual leader. The strange thing is that no one has called him out on anything.
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>> Not sure which response you are referring to, but Jesus will be utterly destroying all the enemies of Israel at His Second Coming.
Had Jesus come earlier, say 75 years ago, He would have seen the U.S. and Britain, among other Christian nations, turning back and refusing entry to Jewish refugees (i.e., the Israelites you speak of) fleeing Hitler. Today's equivalent would be for Europe to turn back those overloaded "rafts" the Syrians are floating in on. Christian thinking has evolved since WWII, but there'll always be some new disaster requiring our aid, as opposed to just our weapons. It's time we got over our fear of those different from ourselves.
I remain stunned at Germany's incredible act of humanitarianism by committing to accept one million Syrian refugees. It's the most extraordinary act of compassion that I've seen in my lifetime. In spite of this, I have no doubt that Germany, with it's 80M people, will remain a thriving democracy. Syrians as a people won't soon forget Germany's decision, nor will they remember ours.
Had Jesus come earlier, say 75 years ago, He would have seen the U.S. and Britain, among other Christian nations, turning back and refusing entry to Jewish refugees (i.e., the Israelites you speak of) fleeing Hitler. Today's equivalent would be for Europe to turn back those overloaded "rafts" the Syrians are floating in on. Christian thinking has evolved since WWII, but there'll always be some new disaster requiring our aid, as opposed to just our weapons. It's time we got over our fear of those different from ourselves.
I remain stunned at Germany's incredible act of humanitarianism by committing to accept one million Syrian refugees. It's the most extraordinary act of compassion that I've seen in my lifetime. In spite of this, I have no doubt that Germany, with it's 80M people, will remain a thriving democracy. Syrians as a people won't soon forget Germany's decision, nor will they remember ours.
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