Conservative calls for dictatorship

[durangodawood]

What type is he 'calling' for? and please link proof.

Im saying support for dictatorship doesnt mean one supports communism as you suggest.

 

[Hazelelponi]

So you're a fiscal conservative, protectionist, nativist, and nationalist who doesn't care for "McCain" types for some reason (because he didn't let the banking system collapse, I guess) who cares not to be particularly into the social issue conservatism because of some theology something or other I don't care about.

That's pretty much correct.

As far as nativism, my parents immigrated here legally. I'm not against immigration, what I'm against is "unchecked immigration" (see also: illegal immigration) and immigration policy not controlled by our own government, who are best able to represent the interests of Americans (AKA, American citizens)

 

[Always in His Presence]

The "type" and related proof would be in the post where Mr. Kelly says the US needs a dictator and then a review of what his politics are. (The subject of the thread and something you can gather by following up on it.) Does he want Trump or someone like that? Don't know, he didn't specify.

Don't you find it disturbing that anyone of social or political influence is calling for a dictatorship? Regardless of their political or social views.

Not when you combine it with his other posts that state he hates dictatorships -

This is why context is king. You can't just take one tweet and make all kinds of assumptions about it - even if it is from a Trump supporter.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Im saying support for dictatorship doesnt mean one supports communism as you suggest.

His other tweets say he hates dictatorships -

 

[durangodawood]

His other tweets say he hates dictatorships -

Sure thats a 180. But hating communism specifically doesnt mean you oppose dictatorship generally.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Sure thats a 180. But hating communism specifically doesnt mean you oppose dictatorship generally.

Same reply as last time.

 

[TheLastGeek]

Conservative thought leader Jesse Kelly says the U.S. needs a dictatorship. That's disturbing.

Joe Walsh comments that that is exactly what the conservative base wants. That's frightening.
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Jesse Kelly doesn't speak for anyone but Jesse Kelly. Acting as though he represents millions of people is disingenuous.

That said, I interpret his post as sardonic. He isn't saying this is what he wants, he's saying that this country's immorality and corruption are going to bring about a dictatorship, and at that point, it will be what the people deserve, for their lack of morality. In other words, "this country is so far gone, people are about to get what they asked for, and they won't like it".

I don't agree with him at all, but I also recognize that he's not promoting a dictatorship, either.

 

[JustOneWay]

Conservative thought leader Jesse Kelly says the U.S. needs a dictatorship. That's disturbing.

Joe Walsh comments that that is exactly what the conservative base wants. That's frightening.
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What is disturbing is that the republican party supported and continues to support a wannabe dictator in trump while ignoring his crimes, his theft, and his adultery.

Among Republican primary voters, Trump leads with 53% support, followed by DeSantis at 21%,

Fox News Poll: Trump still top 2024 Republican preference, DeSantis slipping

According to a new Fox News poll, former President Donald Trump still tops the 2024 Republican presidential primary field, while Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis lost some support.

www.foxnews.com

But don't worry, the republicans are revving up their morality making machine and pushing gay and trans-gendered folk back into hiding while saving the children from drag queens. Good times....

 

[durangodawood]

Same reply as last time.

Your initial post didnt indicate a 180. Once you modified it, then it did.

 

[variant]

Conservative thought leader Jesse Kelly says the U.S. needs a dictatorship. That's disturbing.

Joe Walsh comments that that is exactly what the conservative base wants. That's frightening.
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If they want a dictator to "give them back their America" they are looking for contradictory things.

A dictator must necessarily destroy the United States of America as it previously existed.

 

[wing2000]

...dictator in waiting...and this time, he'll hit the ground running....that is, if enough American people decide they want authoritarian rule:

Mandatory stop-and-frisk. Deploying the military to fight street crime, break up gangs and deport immigrants. Purging the federal workforce and charging leakers.
Former president Donald Trump has steadily begun outlining his vision for a second-term agenda, focusing on unfinished business from his time in the White House and an expansive vision for how he would wield federal power. In online videos and stump speeches, Trump is pledging to pick up where his first term left off and push even further.

“In 2016, I declared I am your voice,” Trump said in a speech last month at the Conservative Political Action Conference and repeated at his first 2024 campaign rally in Waco, Tex., a few weeks later.
“Today, I add: I am your warrior.
I am your justice.
And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2023/04/21/trump-agenda-policies-2024/#:~:text=Mandatory%20stop%2Dand,push%20even%20further.

 

[durangodawood]

They should hang their hopes on gerrymandering if they want to maintain minority rule in the USA.

If that fails, then perhaps a dictatorship is warranted - so long as its their dictator.

 

[USincognito]

See I'm super confused because I've never heard of either of these names and your talking books, TV shows etc etc.

I've never heard of Jesse, but @Hans Blaster point is that with a national radio show and a book deal, he's not just some schlub flapping his yap on Twitter.

So I decided to look, and a quick look at Joe Walsh's Twitter shows me that him and those he would enjoy reading enough to quote are "never Trumpers" and appear to truly dislike conservative voters like myself (he actually talks about how much he dislikes "maga republicans")

You probably should have checked his Wikipedia page instead. Walsh was a TEA Party darling and a vocal opponent of President Obama. When he ran for reelection in 2012 he was endorsed by the Club For Growth and the Family Research Council. He even skipped the RNC that year because he was dissatisfied with the establishment Republicans running the show.

I love how MAGAs will try an excommunicate actual elected conservative Republicans like Walsh, McClain and Cheney simply because they don't kiss Donald's ring.

So, we can call them a lot of things, but I don't think conservative would be it. These aren't conservative thought leaders, unless you're talking about RINO'S - but these people hate conservatives so much they aren't even that because Joe Walsh describes himself as being a former Republican..

And there we have it! Both Republican and conservative have been redefined as "loyal to , Donald". We've always been at war with Eastasia.

Seemingly too disgusted with conservatives to stay in the republican party.

So... Conservative thought leaders these guys are not. Joe Walsh makes a typical dem happy with all his vehement hatred of conservatives though.

This is quite the fan fiction you've created based on him having the temerity to criticize King Donald and his sycophants. I need to go back and see what you posted about Cheney and Kinzenger.

He might want to get rid of us via a dictatorship, much like the democrat party.

Slandering Democrats is flaming. You might think twice about posting stuff like this.

 

[USincognito]

So basically he's the replacement of a replacement for someone with a recognisable name...

It's always delicious seeing So's Law validated in one of my own threads.

That's super influential... To nobody... Lol.

Fascinating. I have a local conservative talk guy listen to when I drove home at 7am. He has like 37K Twitter followers and he not only had Texas AG as a guest the other day and he's just local to Dallas. If conservative talkers aren't influential, why do stations pay them for airtime?

Look, so far in this thread you've taken one sentence that someone no one has heard of

I can understand the need to diminish them. I can't understand the need to lie about them.

someone who hates conservatives

Again, I can understand the need to diminish. I cannot understand the need to lie.

 

[USincognito]

Was it conservative authoritarianism that called for the covid mandates

Nah. Conservative authoritarianism was Desantis mocking and chastising children for wearing masks. Conservative authoritarianism was calling for the arrest and execution of Anthony Fauci. Conservative authoritarianism was spreading lies about the vaccine and promoting ineffective treatments for political gain.

Conservative authoritarianism is calling common sense public health measures "dictatorial" because the man on Fox News told them to be angry.

and restroom merging

No such thing happened. If you're trying to attack transgenders living their lives, at least express that clearly and I'll address it.

and "manmade global warming" mitigations (and it goes on and on) at the loss of personal freedoms?

The fact that you're putting AGW in scare quotes tells me I don't need to take your objection seriously. If you were to say, "I don't care about how the effects of global warming will effect my grandchildren", we can have that discussion.

 

[USincognito]

I have a niece with over two million YouTube subscribers. So what? (But then, I don't even know what 'subscribers' means in that context.)

Rush had over 15 million weekly radio show listeners. What are 640,000 followers on Twitter? Sounds sort of like a nobody to me.

Ah yes. The old "if he's not the biggest dog, he's not dog" argument.

 

[USincognito]

My friend, if it was not for your following all these conservatives, they would be largely unknown. They owe you a debt of thanks for free advertising.

You guys write the most fascinating fan fiction.

Oh, I never said he was a nobody, only that I have never heard of him. I am not anywhere near as familiar with the conservative talking heads as you are.

Yeah. How silly I am to be aware of people with whom I might disagree politically instead of being told about "their" positions and views by Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller or Libs of TikTok.

 

[Always in His Presence]

You guys write the most fascinating fan fiction. View attachment 331512View attachment 331513

Yeah. How silly I am to be aware of people with whom I might disagree politically instead of being told about "their" positions and views by Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller or Libs of TikTok.

compared to the professionals they are persona non grata

 

[USincognito]

That is the important part of the tea party. The republican party stopped being actually conservative, and became a smoke and mirrors extension of the democratic party.

I'm sorry, but this level of ideological purity makes Maoists seem open minded. As someone that was consecutive back in the 80s it's mind bending to watch. I suspect Reagan would be a RINO today for daring to aver "thou shalt not speak I'll of another Republican".

At that point those who, at that time, were termed either "NeoCons" (neoconservatives) or "Rhino's"

Could you define either of those terms for me?

Well, two can play that game and with Trump all the actual conservatives came back

Because a twice divorced serial adulterer, who had been an independent and Democrat for much of the previous 30 years, who cozied up to authoritarian dictators, who ran up a 7 trillion debt, and who pooped on every principle of Presidential decorum is the Conservative ideal?

How things have changed since 1986.

 

[USincognito]

compared to the professionals they are persona non grata

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I don't know why my screen caps were so confusing, since I clearly quoted you claiming that I followed Jesse and Joe, when the two sceen caps from my account showed that I didn't follow them.

Again, I'm aware of them because if what they say and do that generates heat on social media. If I am, conservatives sure as heck are.

This red herring is growing tiresome. The topic is are conservatives looking for a dictator or authoritarian and I think that is an easy case to make just from the two Tweets alone.