Consequences for doctors and nurses spreading misinformation

[ThisIsMe123]

https://www.medpagetoday.com/specia...YW7DOHF_Y1qCXid_35B1IgaLhpAq4iIH6uo_oBp9kbEQk

This should have been done a long time ago, but here we are.

 

[mindfulzen]

For petes sake, has it gone that far, this is so sick. We obviously need to give political asylum for american healthpersonel now. So sad for you.But kind of great for us. Educating a doctor costs like 200K at least, so that is good business. Saving that cost, saving 5 years, and you have a new high yielding taxpayer working, and also shortens our waitinlines. We also lack chemists and engineers.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

For petes sake, has it gone that far, this is so sick. We obviously need to give political asylum for american healthpersonel now. So sad for you.But kind of great for us. Educating a doctor costs like 200K at least, so that is good business. Saving that cost, saving 5 years, and you have a new high yielding taxpayer working, and also shortens our waitinlines. We also lack chemists and engineers.

You want our disbarred lawyers and our Quacks and Woo Peddlers, you can have them. We can find you incompetent professionals in a lot of licensed services, but be careful what you wish for.

 

[mindfulzen]

You want our disbarred lawyers and our Quacks and Woo Peddlers, you can have them. We can find you incompetent professionals in a lot of licensed services, but be careful what you wish for.

Yes, I want all the specialistworkers you take the right to work from, because of unconstitutional practices. Are you kidding me, principled people, that is good people. And lawyers who do not violate the laws out of conviction is great

 

[Paulos23]

For petes sake, has it gone that far, this is so sick. We obviously need to give political asylum for american healthpersonel now. So sad for you.But kind of great for us. Educating a doctor costs like 200K at least, so that is good business. Saving that cost, saving 5 years, and you have a new high yielding taxpayer working, and also shortens our waitinlines. We also lack chemists and engineers.

The reason they are medical boards is to make sure those those in the medical profession give consistent and life saving care. And in my opinion, having seen some of the medical practice quackery not stopped by these boards, this the least they could do.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Who gets to say what is false? This is outrageous.

Medical personnel required to be politically correct is exactly contrary to free speech.

They swore to protect the patients under their care, and for many of them, who know and follow the science —not the consensus— this makes them go against their oath.

The fact this is being done, purportedly for the purpose of protecting the public against such a nearly bogus disease, makes it obvious the whole vaccine matter is politically driven —all the more reason not to get it.

This is not diptherea, not smallpox, not polio, not even hepatitis. Not tetanus, not...... This is conditioning the public. The royalty is flexing their muscles.

 

[mindfulzen]

The reason they are medical boards is to make sure those those in the medical profession give consistent and life saving care. And in my opinion, having seen some of the medical practice quackery not stopped by these boards, this the least they could do.

Quite pointless, you want to frame it a way that is not true, so there is nothing to chat about here. Quackery has a definition. Giving additional information on a virus, and an advice you are not allowed to under fascism, is not quackery. Send them over. We have to poach eastern europe and india now, and that is not right to steal the labour they spend mooney to produce. We can take yours, more freedom here, so they want to go I am sure. Start barring NASA people for wrongspeak too, could use them too. Carry on like this, brilliant

 

[Paulos23]

Quite pointless, you want to frame it a way that is not true, so there is nothing to chat about here. Quackery has a definition. Giving additional information on a virus, and an advice you are not allowed to under fascism, is not quackery. Send them over. We have to poach eastern europe and india now, and that is not right to steal the labour they spend mooney to produce. We can take yours, more freedom here, so they want to go I am sure. Start barring NASA people for wrongspeak too, could use them too. Carry on like this, brilliant

Antivax is quackery. Vaccines work, and there are very few people who have medical conditions that make it dangerous.

Heck, this pandemic is so bad that my friend who has an autoimmune disease is getting the shot on the advice of his doctor, even though they would not recommend it normally.

Doctors that are causing people to delay or just not get the shot are just as guilty of malpractice in my eyes as the ones that sell crystals for "healing energies".

 

[Mark Quayle]

Antivax is quackery. Vaccines work, and there are very few people who have medical conditions that make it dangerous.

Heck, this pandemic is so bad that my friend who has an autoimmune disease is getting the shot on the advice of his doctor, even though they would not recommend it normally.

Doctors that are causing people to delay or just not get the shot are just as guilty of malpractice in my eyes as the ones that sell crystals for "healing energies".

Therefore, remove freedom of speech and conscience...right?

 

[mindfulzen]

Antivax is quackery. Vaccines work, and there are very few people who have medical conditions that make it dangerous.

Heck, this pandemic is so bad that my friend who has an autoimmune disease is getting the shot on the advice of his doctor, even though they would not recommend it normally.

Doctors that are causing people to delay or just not get the shot are just as guilty of malpractice in my eyes as the ones that sell crystals for "healing energies".

I told you I ended it, I am not falling for goading. Do you want to be reported for that? I abide by the rules. And I am not antivax, I do not care whatever people do, it is up to each individual as I always say, in all threads I join. I do not want to dictate others, on personal healthcare.

 

[Paulos23]

Therefore, remove freedom of speech and conscience...right?

No, we are talking about medical advice and practice, not free speech.

 

[Paulos23]

I told you I ended it, I am not falling for goading. Do you want to be reported for that? I abide by the rules. And I am not antivax, I do not care whatever people do, it is up to each individual as I always say, in all threads I join. I do not want to dictate others, on personal healthcare.

A pandemic is not a good time to apply individual choice since it will impact others. People need to stop avoiding responsibly under the cry of personal freedom.

 

[Mark Quayle]

No, we are talking about medical advice and practice, not free speech.

The doctors have the right to speak according to their own conscience. Free Speech.

 

[mindfulzen]

A pandemic is not a good time to apply individual choice since it will impact others. People need to stop avoiding responsibly under the cry of personal freedom.

And there is your entire problem, that you shield yourself against. Individual choice is a right we have, so we apply it as always. Want more security, and be chained, then do it the right way and remove civil rights through the laws on the books. There is code of laws, you could have done it before, but nobody did, because they would never get elected if they did it. So, democracy working. People have responsibility towards themselves, God, the code of laws, and possibly other people in their immediate surroundings. Civil rights will not be forfeited easily for folks. So I suggest a nice ask, or some free money to do what you want. You will never get to 90% with violating laws. There are protests all over the west in all major cities now. And people will not stop.

 

[Bobber]

This should have been done a long time ago, but here we are.

I get a pop up asking me to fill in things if I want to read this piece. Not going to do it so I don't know exactly what they're saying but a threat of loosing your license for saying or suggesting anything wrong about the vaccines....or anything that would cause one to be hesitant on taking one? So how about Doctors now officially reporting their professional opinion that problems a patient might have was potentially caused by a vaccine? Are you telling me ANY Doctor won't be too scared to give their professional opinion that they're seeing problems that they know or at least feel it's vaccine related? Could we be entering a time where Doctors might have a hard time sleeping at night?

 

[whatbogsends]

I get a pop up asking me to fill in things if I want to read this piece. Not going to do it so I don't know exactly what they're saying but a threat of loosing your license for saying or suggesting anything wrong about the vaccines....or anything that would cause one to be hesitant on taking one? So how about Doctors now officially reporting their professional opinion that problems a patient might have was potentially caused by a vaccine? Are you telling me ANY Doctor won't be too scared to give their professional opinion that they're seeing problems that they know or at least feel it's vaccine related? Could we be entering a time where Doctors might have a hard time sleeping at night?

For science to work, it requires transparency of data and freedom to discuss ideas. Theories need to be tested and re-tested to insure their validity. To revoke licenses of doctors not complying with the "official" position is madness.

This is the opposite of how science and health care are supposed to work, yet not only is it happening, but a number of people are cheering it on.

 

[Strathos]

If a doctor told his patients that drinking sulfuric acid would cure them of all disease, would you argue that that was his right because of 'free speech'?

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

For science to work, it requires transparency of data and freedom to discuss ideas. Theories need to be tested and re-tested to insure their validity. To revoke licenses of doctors not complying with the "official" position is madness.

This is the opposite of how science and health care are supposed to work, yet not only is it happening, but a number of people are cheering it on.

And that is not what is happening. The sanctions are aimed at people who are not using the scientific method and promoting their ideas directly to inappropriate venues (facebook, youtube etc.) without evidence or rigorous study.

 

[Paulos23]

And there is your entire problem, that you shield yourself against. Individual choice is a right we have, so we apply it as always. Want more security, and be chained, then do it the right way and remove civil rights through the laws on the books. There is code of laws, you could have done it before, but nobody did, because they would never get elected if they did it. So, democracy working. People have responsibility towards themselves, God, the code of laws, and possibly other people in their immediate surroundings. Civil rights will not be forfeited easily for folks. So I suggest a nice ask, or some free money to do what you want. You will never get to 90% with violating laws. There are protests all over the west in all major cities now. And people will not stop.

Again, this is all to avoid taking personal responsibility for the people around you. This virus doesn't care about your personal freedom. It doesn't care that you feel suffocated with a mask on. It will infect you anyway.

Personal responsibility is taking the steps to cut down you chance of getting infected or infecting others. In the beginning my family did that to stop the spread so there would be less cases so our hospitals and health care workers could handle the load. And it worked.

Heck, last month I was even going back to the office. But now the numbers are rising again and I am locking down again because people will not do the things that would slow and stop this pandemic.

Why do you think we had to do this for so long? We could have been like South Korea and had a tracking app up to let people know they needed to get tested and to isolate. Instead it took months to do that and even then people refuse to download the app.

We place such an importance on personal freedom that we ignore the consequences of our actions. It is no wonder those of us that have been doing the right thing for so long are frustrated at those that don't.

 

[Paulos23]

For science to work, it requires transparency of data and freedom to discuss ideas. Theories need to be tested and re-tested to insure their validity. To revoke licenses of doctors not complying with the "official" position is madness.

This is the opposite of how science and health care are supposed to work, yet not only is it happening, but a number of people are cheering it on.

If those doctors did studies rather than just post opinions, then we would know if they where on to something.

Vaccines are a try and true science with a lot of success. They need to bring some good evidence to counter that.

And I am just not seeing that.