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[MikeCarra]

Leprosy in the Bible is a picture of sin, an no scientist on earth can cure that.

Only the Great Physician, aka the Son of God, can do that.

So you're saying that "leprosy" in the BIble was NOT leprosy like we know it today? You are saying it was METAPHORICAL?

How many more words in the Bible need to be CHANGED "ad hoc" in order to get around whatever point you are getting around this time?

Let's see:

1. Fowled bats
2. Embedded age
now
3. Sin Leprosy

At this rate there won't be much left to the literal truth of the Bible in a couple of years!

 

[AV1611VET]

So you're saying that "leprosy" in the BIble was NOT leprosy like we know it today? You are saying it was METAPHORICAL?

How many more words in the Bible need to be CHANGED "ad hoc" in order to get around whatever point you are getting around this time?

Let's see:

1. Fowled bats
2. Embedded age
now
3. Sin Leprosy

At this rate there won't be much left to the literal truth of the Bible in a couple of years!

How is Leprosy Like Sin? - Genealogy and Jewish Heritage

Why is leprosy talked about so much in the Bible?

And:

1) Leprosy is a physical disease, while sin is a spiritual disease (Ezekiel 18:20).
2) Sin, like leprosy, is contagious (1 Corinthians 5:6-7).
3) Sin, like leprosy, is deceptive (Hebrews 3:12-13).
4) Sin, like leprosy, is not inherited but acquired (Ezekiel 18:20).
5) Sin, like leprosy, has a tendency to increase (James 1:!4-15).
6) Sin, like leprosy, is incurable, "except" for the power of God (Hebrews 9:22).


James C. Guy’s note: Leprosy was one of the most highly feared diseases in times of old, and still is in many places. The similarities to sin are interesting. If only sin were feared as much as leprosy!

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[RickG]

We can yak our opinions back and forth, can't we?


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What part of the original source by the IAU where they stated that the status of Pluto had been debated by the IAU for some two years prior to the vote did you not understand?

I am not yaking an opinion. I am providing original information from the original source, the IAU. You are the only one yaking an opinion, and an unsupported one at that.

Astronomylaw.com. Good grief. A "sour grape" site created by an attorney.

 

[MikeCarra]

How is Leprosy Like Sin? - Genealogy and Jewish Heritage

So words in the BIble can have non-literal meaning????

Wow. Makes me wonder why "Embedded Age" had to be invented.

Why is leprosy talked about so much in the Bible?

And:


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I am totally SHOCKED that literal meaning of words is so blithely glossed over in the Bible! I thought the Bible, especially the Old Testament, was exactly as God wrote it and later assisted in translating into 17th century English!

I am SHOCKED! SHOCKED!

Huh.

 

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How is Leprosy Like Sin? - Genealogy and Jewish Heritage

Why is leprosy talked about so much in the Bible?

And:


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"6) Sin, like leprosy, is incurable, "except" for the power of God (Hebrews 9:22)."

QV

 

[AV1611VET]

What part of the original source by the IAU where they stated that the status of Pluto had been debated by the IAU for some two years prior to the vote did you not understand?

I am not yaking an opinion. I am providing original information from the original source, the IAU. You are the only one yaking an opinion, and an unsupported one at that.

Astronomylaw.com. Good grief. A "sour grape" site created by an attorney.

I've changed MY Mood to reflect my attitude toward this whole he-said-she-said fiasco.

 

[RickG]

I've changed MY Mood to reflect my attitude toward this whole he-said-she-said fiasco.

 

[AV1611VET]

I am SHOCKED! SHOCKED!

If yuu follow the Kübler-Ross model to completion, you'll be alright.

But to get stuck in any of the first four for any length of time ... well ... you'll require help.

Remember: DABDA

 

[RickG]

I've changed MY Mood to reflect my attitude toward this whole he-said-she-said fiasco.

AV, I don't care if you don't accept the down grade of Pluto to a "dwarf planet". The point is that you fail to accept the actual process in which it was decided.

You have claimed it was a last minute vote. That is false.
You have claimed most astronomers were excluded. That is false
You have claimed the vote was rigged. That is false.

Now that you know this, not from me, but the IAU itself, please do not bear false witness concerning that in the future.

Pluto and the Solar System | IAU
IAU 2006 General Assembly: Result of the IAU Resolution votes | Press Releases | IAU

 

[Split Rock]

AV, I don't care if you don't accept the down grade of Pluto to a "dwarf planet". The point is that you fail to accept the actual process in which it was decided.

You have claimed it was a last minute vote. That is false.
You have claimed most astronomers were excluded. That is false
You have claimed the vote was rigged. That is false.

Now that you know this, not from me, but the IAU itself, please do not bear false witness concerning that in the future.

Pluto and the Solar System | IAU
IAU 2006 General Assembly: Result of the IAU Resolution votes | Press Releases | IAU

BUT!!!... that would ruin AVET's carefully constructed paradigm, wherein science is inherently flawed, biased, corrupted, a tool misused by SATAN and is both dogmatic and changes with the flavor of the week at the same time!!! Please also remember that AVET accepts 95% of your so-called "science."

 

[MikeCarra]

If yuu follow the Kübler-Ross model to completion, you'll be alright.

But to get stuck in any of the first four for any length of time ... well ... you'll require help.

Remember: DABDA

So can I ask where YOU got the magical key to know that certain parts of the Bible must be LITERALLY true and which parts can be read metaphorically?

That would REALLY help!

 

[Michael]

And what exactly is the scientific consensus about god that atheists don't agree with?

If anything, your graph shows that there is no popular consensus about god. But that's not what I asked, was it?

It's a relatively 'scientific' poll of the *overall* consensus of the human population on the topic of God. The fact that the subset of human "scientists" don't take much of a stand on the topic is irrelevant. It's still the *human* consensus on that topic. Atheism isn't even in the *double digits*!

 

[Michael]

And what empirical evidence are these 3% going against?

Besides the fact that humans have been reporting having a 'relationship' with something they call God since the dawn of written human civilization?

 

[Michael]

How about dissenting astronomers?


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Will that do as a substitute for "some blog by non professionals"?

You really took Pluto's demotion personally didn't you?

 

[MikeCarra]

Besides the fact that humans have been reporting having a 'relationship' with something they call God since the dawn of written human civilization?

So is Zeus exactly the same thing as Odin as Krishna as is Yahweh as is Al'lah?

And if Al'lah is OK with putting worshippers of Odin to the sword for being infidels that's a legitimate "experience" of Al'lah? Is Al'lah is punishing himself for also being Odin and getting worshipers under the wrong name?

I'm surprised that this "god" that so many have had a "relationship" with since the dawn of time could be so schizophrenic.

 

[Michael]

So is Zeus exactly the same thing as Odin as Krishna as is Yahweh as is Al'lah?

Monotheism (the consensus) would suggest that there is but *one* God, and *many human religions*. Humans don't seem to agree 100 percent on anything, so why would you expect 100 percent agreement on the topic of God?

And if Al'lah is OK with putting worshippers of Odin to the sword for being infidels that's a legitimate "experience" of Al'lah? Is Al'lah is punishing himself for also being Odin and getting worshipers under the wrong name?

You're still confusing the concept of religion (and human action) with God's will.

I'm surprised that this "god" that so many have had a "relationship" with since the dawn of time could be so schizophrenic.

It's not that surprising to me since humans tend to believe whatever they feel like believing, with or without 'physical evidence' to support their conclusion.

Poll: 40% of Americans STILL ‘Unsure’ If Obama is a US Citizen – Latest
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

 

[AV1611VET]

You really took Pluto's demotion personally didn't you?

Not really.

It's jut that Pluto, Phlogiston, and Thalidomide* are such good examples of myopic science, I can't help but to keep harping on them.

Honorable mentions are:

1. the Titanic
2. the Deepwater Horizon
3. the Hindenberg
4. L'Aquila
5. Chernobyl
6. Three Mile Island
7. Y2K
8. abortion
9. alcohol & tobacco
10. the syzygy of 1988
11. overpopulation/depletion of earth's resources
12. Vioxx
13. Tylenol capsules
14. views on Israel I don't want to get into
15. moral decay
16. blasphemy, quenching the Spirit, grieving the Spirit
17. anything else I can think of later

* Thalidomide goes a little beyond myopia. I have other reasons for why I think Thalidomide really went down that I really don't care to harp on on the Internet.

 

[Split Rock]

You really took Pluto's demotion personally didn't you?

Not really.

It's jut that Pluto, Phlogiston, and Thalidomide* are such good examples of myopic science, I can't help but to keep harping on them.

Honorable mentions are:

1. the Titanic
2. the Deepwater Horizon
3. the Hindenberg
4. L'Aquila
5. Chernobyl
6. Three Mile Island
7. Y2K
8. abortion
9. the syzygy of 1988
10. overpopulation/depletion of earth's resources
11. Vioxx
12. Tylenol capsules
13. views on Israel I don't want to get into
14. moral decay
15. blasphemy, quenching the Spirit, grieving the Spirit
16. anything else I can think of later

* Thalidomide goes a little beyond myopia. I have other reasons for why I think Thalidomide really went down that I really don't care to harp on on the Internet.

That list is very funny, buddy. I especially like "moral decay." Was that also invented by "myopic science?"

 

[Split Rock]

Not really.

It's jut that Pluto, Phlogiston, and Thalidomide* are such good examples of myopic science, I can't help but to keep harping on them.

Honorable mentions are:

1. the Titanic
2. the Deepwater Horizon
3. the Hindenberg
4. L'Aquila
5. Chernobyl
6. Three Mile Island
7. Y2K
8. abortion
9. alcohol & tobacco
10. the syzygy of 1988
11. overpopulation/depletion of earth's resources
12. Vioxx
13. Tylenol capsules
14. views on Israel I don't want to get into
15. moral decay
16. blasphemy, quenching the Spirit, grieving the Spirit
17. anything else I can think of later

* Thalidomide goes a little beyond myopia. I have other reasons for why I think Thalidomide really went down that I really don't care to harp on on the Internet.

Oh, adding "alcohol and tobacco" is another good one. Didn't Jesus make wine? Was he contributing to "myopic science?" Should we start calling Jesus a Scientist? Wouldn't he be a greater Scientist than the Anti-Christ will be?

 

[AV1611VET]

That list is very funny, buddy. I especially like "moral decay." Was that also invented by "myopic science?"

Yes.

Their inability to see what they were doing with peoples' consciences by changing Biblical terms to scientific ones.*

Example: babe in the womb → fetus or fetal tissue.

* I contend that neo-science's ultimate goal is to change every jot and tittle of the Bible into their language.