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WatersMoon110

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I've said before I don't think Obama is a man who will wave a magic wand and poof no more problems!

Instead I see him as a President who [will solve problems] because so many of the people of this country are inspired [and] will do the work, and that's a big difference.
Is this closer to what you meant?
 
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Um... I wouldn't vote for Obama in a pink fit... however I see no reason to engage inb wierd ad hominems against him when his politics is all that is needed to condemn him.

Dems gave us Ahab and Jezebel last time they were successful. This time it's King Bera. Look em up?

How is 400 school shootings in Chicago (source?) Obama's fault, exactly?

Failed community organizing, poor role model, and liberalism. All facts.
 
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Failed [in their goal], poor role model, and [political bias].
Can the same be said of anything bad that happened in Texas while Dubbya was Governor? What about anything bad that happened in the US during Dubbya's Presidency?
 
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You guys sure are going to be crushed when you realise he's just another politician like all the rest....

I dunno - if eight years of Bush Jr have proven anything, it's that there's no such thing as "just another politician". After W, frankly *anyone* would be an improvement, but I'm really excited about Obama, in a way I wouldn't have been if McCain had won.

Having said that, I hope he lives up to his promises.
 
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Although I like Obama, I am unsure of this blinding reaction the world has given him. The majority of people, and this includes the jubilant "rest of the world", still do not think for themselves. The only thing they can really get from Obama's victory is the symbolism of "breaking down racial barriers", which is fine but it does not say anything about the ideas of the president himself. Only time will give us the results, but those results must be analyzed from a rational point of view. Although I really hope it does not happen, I definitely have the feeling that if Obama starts making big mistakes, people will point the finger at someone else, because after this reaction they would not be able to admit to their error. Obama said it himself - the election is not the victory itself, but only an opportunity for achieving better things.

Basically, people might be following the right man, but they are still following for not quite the right reasons.
 
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Although I like Obama, I am unsure of this blinding reaction the world has given him. The majority of people, and this includes the jubilant "rest of the world", still do not think for themselves. The only thing they can really get from Obama's victory is the symbolism of "breaking down racial barriers", which is fine but it does not say anything about the ideas of the president himself.

I think that's a bit of a cynical point of view you've got there. It's not as if it's particularly difficult to find out Mr Obama's political positions, and from that for people to work out whether they support or oppose him as Presidential candidate (and indeed now as President). Certainly, I agree with most of his positions.

David.
 
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However on Obama... someone said somewhere that how any British person having just experienced a decade of blairism could possibly want American to have to go through the same thing - I can only agree. Obama strikes me as a Blair. He's trying to come over young and hip and all for "change and modernisation" - but be careful with that... it doesn't always work out the way you expect. I despair for my country after the wholesale destruction wrought on it by NuLab - I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I think it is best to judge each politician on their individual merits, instead of making ridiculously vague comparisons with people you don't like.
 
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Just watched the speeches in full...

Fantastic concession speech from McCain marred only by his supporters booing when Obama's name was mentioned. Top man, shame about his supporters. For that, I'll start buying his oven chips again :p I think a lot of people could learn from the humility that McCain showed (his supporters for one) after the twatting he took, I don't think I'll ever see a better concession speech.

Obama's speech was incredible too, he really does suck you in, powerful, inspirational stuff. I think that speech will be studied by kids in history classes for years to come. Fair play to the democrat supporters, in contrast to the republican supporters, they graciously applauded at the mention of McCain's name, but perhaps they had more to be gracious about.

President Barack Hussein Obama, who would have thought it?

Well done America, sense at last. A historic victory.
 
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Just watched the speeches in full...

Fantastic concession speech from McCain marred only by his supporters booing when Obama's name was mentioned. Top man, shame about his supporters. For that, I'll start buying his oven chips again :p I think a lot of people could learn from the humility that McCain showed (his supporters for one) after the twatting he took, I don't think I'll ever see a better concession speech.

Obama's speech was incredible too, he really does suck you in, powerful, inspirational stuff. I think that speech will be studied by kids in history classes for years to come. Fair play to the democrat supporters, in contrast to the republican supporters, they graciously applauded at the mention of McCain's name, but perhaps they had more to be gracious about.

President Barack Hussein Obama, who would have thought it?

Well done America, sense at last. A historic victory.

I completely agree.
This is an amazing moment in history I am proud to be a part of. :clap:
 
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I think McCain would have been the better choice.

I'm taking solace in the knowledge that Palin won't weasel into the oval office over President McCain's dead body.

I agree with the second part at least. I think McCain made a rash move bringing in that nutjob the day after the democrat conference party.
 
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I don't think it is too early to say well done on making the 'right' choice tonight.

It's fair to say the anti-American feeling has been growing over the past few years, but your decision today will most likely put the breaks on all that and a lot of faith will be restored in regards to the intelligence of the average American voter. I think this alone will bring you more good will internationally then any other regime could have hoped for, and even for the most ardent McCain or republican fan, you'd have to admit this is a good thing.

So well done America.

And just for you, PcF:

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I'm off to bed in a minute, I hope I don't wake up tomorrow and find I've been too presumptuous, but what the hell! ^_^


Well, perhaps time will tell ------------- but the reality is that the Democrats now control the Congress, the Senate, and the Presidency. Let's see what their excuses will be where the rubber meets the road.

Token gestures will not make for Change. In fact, it will be a replay of the same old behavior that has gotten the United States right where it is ---- Spoiled.
 
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