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Are you saying that the was no Child killed Or are you saying that The children killed were not innocent?
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Sorry, no. There were no innocent children ..... and the destruction was not just for mis-deeds, but for complete evil hearts full of deception, devastation, "kill, steal and destroy" motives from the very core of all the hearts, much like today....
What does God's Word Say ? (I agree with Him)Are you saying that the was no Child killed Or are you saying that The children killed were not innocent?
What does God's Word Say ? (I agree with Him)
There is also no indication in God's Word, Plan or Purpose that any of the children killed in the flood were innocent. Oh, you might have heard somewhere some emotional or so-called rational type(worldly, carnal, fleshly) reasoning contrary to Scripture, but stick with what is acutally written , as God reveals His Word, to be abiding in the truth as He Says.Well there is no talk about him removing the children from said places, so the assumptions would have to be that Children, babies and passing animals were all killed.
So following on from that your words most mean that you therefore believe that the Children killed were not innocent.
But I wanted clarification from you so as not to put words into your mouth.
I don't see how these Scriptures are pro-slavery.
The first is instructions for how Christian slaves ought to live. There were many slaves in the Greco Roman world who became Christians. They needed to know how to live. So Paul gives them instruction.
The second is case law for how people should be punished for sexual activity with slaves. It does not positively command or condone slavery.
The third is a restriction on Hebrew debt-slavery. No matter the size of the debt, the slavery could only last 6 years.
How are those laws and instructions pro slavery?
Most of the changes to what constitutes morality in the eyes of this culture are influenced by at least one principle or set of principles found in Scripture. So that helps keep this in perspective.
If that doesn't sound like ethical absolutism, it's because it isn't. Christianity is an ethic of faith, hope, and love, not legalism.
So is the end goal of you morals system to emulate God/Jesus or is it to judge for yourself and justify yourself afterwards?
I don't think of being a Christian as a closed moral system.
I dont accept thatSorry, no. There were no innocent children ..... and the destruction was not just for mis-deeds, but for complete evil hearts full of deception, devastation, "kill, steal and destroy" motives from the very core of all the hearts, much like today....
So ?I dont accept that
I can change myself n be open to learning new things n hold to the ideal that whatever I'm totally certain about today may change tomorrow simply because I've seen new evidence. I'm not about changing anyone elseSo ?
Can you change God's Word, Plan or Purpose ?
Good, then, the next step is to find out from God , from and in line with His Word completely,I can change myself n be open to learning new things n hold to the ideal that whatever I'm totally certain about today may change tomorrow simply because I've seen new evidence. I'm not about changing anyone else
Good idea Jeff. I know I am supposed to conform here, but I just can't. I do like to sit in the silence of an empty church n think on these things thoGood, then, the next step is to find out from God , from and in line with His Word completely,
what God said about the children , vs what you heard otherwise somewhere else.
(Sometimes, just knowing where you learned something is enough to know it is wrong. (I don't think we can accomplish that here, on the forum , though).)
So, instead, going to God's Word to see what God says is what to do. Right ? It may take longer than expected, as there may be a lot of territory to uncover, or to cover, depending on the breadth and depth of what is involved.
I would rather warn you (and everyone else who ever visits internet locations)Good idea Jeff. I know I am supposed to conform here, but I just can't. I do like to sit in the silence of an empty church n think on these things tho
Most of the changes to what constitutes morality in the eyes of this culture are influenced by at least one principle or set of principles found in Scripture. So that helps keep this in perspective.
So you are saying that moral rules exist, and God (alone) is not beholden to such rules/morals. And by extension if someone was commanded by God to do something against those rules then that person would be exempt from Judgement from those actions or is it for God alone to take such actions?
A question for Theists, given the Scriptures of most of the major religions are old and given that morality* has moved on since most of the scriptures were wrote.
How do you bridge the gap between what is clearly in the your scriptures and your Conscience?
For example Homosexuality - whilst I realise a lot of Theists still disagree with this and there is no conflict between Scripture and Conscience for them, but for many Theists in the west there is clearly a conflict (see Ireland historic vote).
Or another easy example is Slavery, which is significantly less divisive than homosexuality, now but it was not at a certain point.
*this is an assertion, but one based on evidence of the change in societal behaviours, Laws, justice systems, you get the picture.
A question for Theists, given the Scriptures of most of the major religions are old and given that morality* has moved on since most of the scriptures were wrote.
How do you bridge the gap between what is clearly in the your scriptures and your Conscience?
For example Homosexuality - whilst I realise a lot of Theists still disagree with this and there is no conflict between Scripture and Conscience for them, but for many Theists in the west there is clearly a conflict (see Ireland historic vote).
Or another easy example is Slavery, which is significantly less divisive than homosexuality, now but it was not at a certain point.
*this is an assertion, but one based on evidence of the change in societal behaviours, Laws, justice systems, you get the picture.
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