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No one other than Jesus could keep the law, no matter what list you compile.Sorry, no. That doesn't work with people today. Too many wrongly , in error, seem to think they are keeping the two (often happens when they say they only have to keep two),
yet they don't keep any, not the two, nor the ten, nor one, two, three.... etc.....
We are not under the law as we are now under grace. The only debt we now owe to God is to love others as Christ has loved us.The ten commandments were given over 3,000 years ago.
The law that Jesus referred to was the sacrificial requirement of the shed blood of bulls which covered the sins of the people. Read Ps.40 and Heb.10.
.."For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt the guilt of their sins. Instead, those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Therefore, when Christ came into the world, He said: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, but a body You prepared for me."
For the Jews the Sabbath was a two day matter (Friday & Saturday). The new moon is a two day matter.
Christians observe Sunday because that is the first day of the week when Jesus had arisen from the dead.
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave. Mark 16:1-2 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, bought spices, so that they might come and anoint Him.
The merchants were chomping at the bit for the festival (no buying or selling) to get over so that the Jews would come and buy their produce and wares.. the merchants hiked the price that starved the poor. So God vowed to punish the merchants. The scripture reference could relate to the future falling of Babylon during the Tribulation.
What was taken away was our sin debt. Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away our sins.
The duty to the ten commandments were not taken away.
In Romans 13 the ten commandments are listed to indicate that observing to do them is the same as loving one's neighbor as yourself. Therefore, our keeping them, observing to do them is to fulfill all the law that is still our duty to do.
Hello!
So ive been thinking abut this and im a bit confused. God put the 10 commandments in place billions of years ago which lead up to todays generation. When jesus came around, he said,"I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it" And one prophecy concerning the sabbath (wrking on sunday? idk) says in amos, "When will the new moon be over that we may sell grain, and the sabbath be ended..." Amos 8:5 and then the lord answers in verse 9. When jesus is asked by a rich man about which commandments to follow he replies with, "you shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, steal, give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 19:18) And in Colossians, it appears that the mosaic law was taken away when scripture says, "having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us, he has taken away, nailing it to the cross.' (Colossians 2:14) Here are my questions: What does this verse mean?, If jesus fulfilled ceremonial law, then wouldn't that take away the sabbath? Which commandments do we follow if this is the case? From a fellow believer- Michael V
Hello!
So ive been thinking abut this and im a bit confused. God put the 10 commandments in place billions of years ago which lead up to todays generation. When jesus came around, he said,"I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it" And one prophecy concerning the sabbath (wrking on sunday? idk) says in amos, "When will the new moon be over that we may sell grain, and the sabbath be ended..." Amos 8:5 and then the lord answers in verse 9. When jesus is asked by a rich man about which commandments to follow he replies with, "you shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, steal, give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 19:18) And in Colossians, it appears that the mosaic law was taken away when scripture says, "having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us, he has taken away, nailing it to the cross.' (Colossians 2:14) Here are my questions: What does this verse mean?, If jesus fulfilled ceremonial law, then wouldn't that take away the sabbath? Which commandments do we follow if this is the case? From a fellow believer- Michael V
Hello!
So ive been thinking abut this and im a bit confused. God put the 10 commandments in place billions of years ago which lead up to todays generation. When jesus came around, he said,"I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it" And one prophecy concerning the sabbath (wrking on sunday? idk) says in amos, "When will the new moon be over that we may sell grain, and the sabbath be ended..." Amos 8:5 and then the lord answers in verse 9. When jesus is asked by a rich man about which commandments to follow he replies with, "you shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, steal, give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 19:18) And in Colossians, it appears that the mosaic law was taken away when scripture says, "having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us, he has taken away, nailing it to the cross.' (Colossians 2:14) Here are my questions: What does this verse mean?, If jesus fulfilled ceremonial law, then wouldn't that take away the sabbath? Which commandments do we follow if this is the case? From a fellow believer- Michael V
Hello!
So ive been thinking abut this and im a bit confused. God put the 10 commandments in place billions of years ago which lead up to todays generation. When jesus came around, he said,"I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it" And one prophecy concerning the sabbath (wrking on sunday? idk) says in amos, "When will the new moon be over that we may sell grain, and the sabbath be ended..." Amos 8:5 and then the lord answers in verse 9. When jesus is asked by a rich man about which commandments to follow he replies with, "you shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, steal, give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 19:18) And in Colossians, it appears that the mosaic law was taken away when scripture says, "having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us, he has taken away, nailing it to the cross.' (Colossians 2:14) Here are my questions: What does this verse mean?, If jesus fulfilled ceremonial law, then wouldn't that take away the sabbath? Which commandments do we follow if this is the case? From a fellow believer- Michael V
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34“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.
Anyone know the meaning of this parable, and also why is there no mention of law in it?
Why does he use feeding the hungry, inviting strangers in, ect as an example, when these things are not required by the 10 commandments / law.
Oct 9, 2019If it says I should do no work on the Day of Atonement, I do not know when that is.
Hello!
So ive been thinking abut this and im a bit confused. God put the 10 commandments in place billions of years ago which lead up to todays generation. When jesus came around, he said,"I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it" And one prophecy concerning the sabbath (wrking on sunday? idk) says in amos, "When will the new moon be over that we may sell grain, and the sabbath be ended..." Amos 8:5 and then the lord answers in verse 9. When jesus is asked by a rich man about which commandments to follow he replies with, "you shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, steal, give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 19:18) And in Colossians, it appears that the mosaic law was taken away when scripture says, "having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us, he has taken away, nailing it to the cross.' (Colossians 2:14) Here are my questions: What does this verse mean?, If jesus fulfilled ceremonial law, then wouldn't that take away the sabbath? Which commandments do we follow if this is the case? From a fellow believer- Michael V
No... the disciples including Paul, gathered for what is called Havdallah... and end of Sabbath meal and prayer for the coming week. Once done, Paul taught. That was on what we call a Saturday night. But because the bible begins it's day at sundown, it was the first day of the week.... but still not Sunday morning. So not on Sunday as you know it today, and no mandate. Just because somebody gathered and taught on any day doesn't decree that day supersedes something God set apart at Creation.Yet those in the new testament gathered and met on the first day of the week. Therefore you require an official commandment from the mouth of God where there doesn't need to be one.
That isn't what 1 Timothy says. Think about it, first of all, God made some animals food, and some were not food. Second, in 1 Timothy 4, the context of verses 3 and 4 are tied to 5 which says, "for it sanctified by the word of God and prayer." It, is that which was received, and that which was received was set apart by the Word of God. Well guess what... there was no NT back then, not until about 200AD. So the "Word of God" was the Tanach, the OT... and there the only thing set apart to be received as food are those things God created to be food.Is there a commandment given that non kosher foods can be eaten? No. Yet the apostle Paul stated (not by commandment) that all things, foods are permissible.
If the Sabbath and New Moon gathering are not for us, and not for today.... then there isn't anything to judge because they don't exist anymore. But they do exist, and we are to gather on these days and we shouldn't be bothered when others, who don't understand, judge us. You are part of Israel now, whether you know it today or not. As Paul wrote in Ephesians 2, you WERE a gentile and WERE an alien of the Commonwealth of Israel but are NOW through the blood of Christ, a fellow citizen. And as part of Israel, the Sabbath remains and perpetual (everlasting, never ending) sign of the covenant.also he wrote "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
First of all, there is nothing that says to set apart Sunday. Nothing... not one verse. Second, if WHEN he rose matters that much to you, then you need to get up BEFORE sunrise on Sunday to celebrate the time. Because at sunrise, the tomb was ALREADY empty, he had ALREADY risen... and yet you wait many hours to celebrate because the day he rose is so important to you?The fact that Jesus arose on the first day of the week, and example of the new testament believers is the reason.
Don't waste your time on this. There were two Pharisaical schools in that day, one taught the letter of the law, one taught the spirit of the law. Paul went to the law and yet still killed Christians. I would think you can't fully explain the difference between the two. I will... the letter ALONE kills... it doesn't say the letter kills. Do not steal still applies... don't take something that belongs to somebody else. But don't even set your heart on taking it because when you do, you have already sinned. THAT is the spirit behind the letter. Don't believe me... go look at messiah's examples. To lay with another's wife is adultery... STILL adultery. But to do so in the heart is ALSO adultery. To physically kill your brother is murder... to hate in the heart is the same.Since you are demanding an official commandment then you are demanding the letter of the law which results in bondage, and therefore has actually been abolished and grace has taken it's place.
God gives grace, period.But you don't keep grace.
You could have asked for an explanation rather than tell me what I do makes no sense. It does... if you want to hear it. If not it will always just not make sense.It makes no sense to only go to church on Sunday for Easter, then the rest of the year go to church on Saturday.
You are spiritually raised when you come to Him in faith. Once done it's done, it isn't a recurring event. "Now we are the children of God and it does not yet appear what WE SHALL BE." The work is not done, we are not to camp at the cross... we are to come in faith believing and then begin a journey where we learn what God's will is for our lives and walk it out the best we can... learning from any mistakes we make and we will make them.When He was raised from physical death, we were raised up from spiritual death. So why should we live one day of the year as a spiritually alive person and the rest of the year like a spiritually dead person?
Why did Jesus pick grain on the Sabbath? The law forbids such work as harvesting, food preparation or cooking on the seventh day. In Israel they do not drive on the seventh day as they claim it is work. Why do Christians work on the seventh day, if the law is so perfect? Why do Christians ignore laws of ritual cleanness found in the five Books of Moses? Why have the sacrifices been abandoned if your law is so perfect? I do not believe the Bible is 100% perfect. Jesus came to establish a better way, not to do the will of the priests and teachers of the law.The Hebrews didn't understand the juxtaposition between mercy and execution of judgment; that is why (for example) the Word of God had to show them an example - namely with the woman to be stoned. Everyone will be judged; no law has been done away with. The point of the Law is to bring correction while one can still be corrected; once the new bodies are given, you will be complete, and the Law will be hard-wired into you. The Law was so perfect that the Word of God Himself followed it perfectly - vindicating the Most High God, and the fact that His Law is not too hard for man.
I do hope you address some of the things I shared in my other response to you, but I wanted to add a thought.So also he wrote "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
Why did Jesus pick grain on the Sabbath? The law forbids such work as harvesting, food preparation or cooking on the seventh day.
In Israel they do not drive on the seventh day as they claim it is work. Why do Christians work on the seventh day, if the law is so perfect? Why do Christians ignore laws of ritual cleanness found in the five Books of Moses? Why have the sacrifices been abandoned if your law is so perfect? I do not believe the Bible is 100% perfect. Jesus came to establish a better way, not to do the will of the priests and teachers of the law.
(Colossians 2:14) What does this verse mean?
Just out of the blue - this 'assumption' has been claimed often on this forum, but no one so far has shown ANYONE who has posted that they "want to live under the Written Law"....If you want to live under the Written Law
How many people do you know personally who directly committed murder,No one other than Jesus could keep the law, no matter what list you compile.
Amen. "their" day vs Yahuweh's appointed, sanctified day.... no contest for the followers of Yahushua abiding daily in Him.People will shun the Sabbath but still want their day of rest. lol
Why did Jesus pick grain on the Sabbath? The law forbids such work as harvesting, food preparation or cooking on the seventh day. In Israel they do not drive on the seventh day as they claim it is work. Why do Christians work on the seventh day, if the law is so perfect? Why do Christians ignore laws of ritual cleanness found in the five Books of Moses? Why have the sacrifices been abandoned if your law is so perfect? I do not believe the Bible is 100% perfect. Jesus came to establish a better way, not to do the will of the priests and teachers of the law.
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