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Tomorrow is a great time to remember the birth of our savior. What day was Jesus born?

Tomorrow is a great time to remember the time of the Israelites living in the wilderness of sin. We also should remember God leading us out from the spiritual Egypt. Did you know that the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles is a celebration for all nations? Did you know we will be celebrating it in the future? "Then the survivors from all the nations…will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles." Zechariah 14:16
 
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Well, that's earth shattering for sure!:D:thumbsup:

It was mighty good news to my pocket book, 3 already placed in their forever homes, $1700. My heart breaks every time I have to hand one over, I wish I could keep each and every one. But because they are expensive, I know they will be treated with great kindness and much love and attention.
(The money is not the reason I breed, I breed them cos I just love the breed and adore having kittens around once or twice a year. After you figure in wellness checkups, fecal exams, HCM, FeLV, FIV testing I manage to end up just above breaking even - it's just nice to have large sums at one time. Helps to get out of backed-up debt and start all over at $0 due. :D Pretty good deal for being able to do something I love.)
 
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I see that on numerous internet sites there are claimed correlations between our (USA) treatment of Israel over the past three presidential administrations and disasters, upset weather, and economic woes. Some sites claim as many as ten or eleven such coincidences.

What do you think?

One thing is also clear: if these are indeed warnings, they are falling on deaf ears...

All my CF email notifs got sent to my spam folder today. I've tried to stay up on what's been going on but missed much, like this post.
I agree. The further away we get from standing firm with Israel, the more it seems this country has suffered. And not just with "natural" weather events. Our economy, our very communities are suffering.
And, yes, most of it is not being put in the right perspective. We are losing God's protection, year by year. He has been gracious and not pulled it all away at one time, and it still remains to a degree. Will America see in time what's happening before it's too late? I sure pray so as we have many enemies who'd like to see, and even help, us crumble.
 
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And, yes, most of it is not being put in the right perspective. We are losing God's protection, year by year. He has been gracious and not pulled it all away at one time, and it still remains to a degree. Will America see in time what's happening before it's too late? I sure pray so as we have many enemies who'd like to see, and even help, us crumble.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

Originally, America agreed to stay out of the troubles of the Europe and the rest of the world. It was the Great War (WWI) that brought America into the international fighting game - and it is when she emerged as a great power. The perspective in America shifted greatly at that time, and it hasn't much changed since. Americans now see themselves as the greatest and as the guardian of the world.

Such situation is bound to change. It never lasts too long, even within a great power that has absolute control over other sovereignties (an empire).

Did the Romans think it was disfavor with the gods that led to their loss of power and status? Did they think their greatness for the hundreds of years during which they stood at the top was due to military prowess or to the gods granting of good fortune? I assure you, there were no gods leading the Romans as they held world domination, and disfavor with the gods did not lead to Rome's downfall. It was all political and military decision that led to Rome's loss of greatness - and forces beyond their control.

The same is true of America. While the world was content to be docile, America sat at the top. Political and military decisions have shaped how the world views the United States, and forces beyond America's control (the formation of nationalistic pride in the Middle East, the strength of the markets in the Far East, etc.) have tipped the balances away from America's favor. That's just how the cookie crumbles.

I am always interested in how people think that God has blessed and protected America all these years, when America was forged on robbery, slavery, forced conversion, murder and genocide. I can't imagine God having been its author. It's just hard for me. I love the founders' original conception of what America was supposed to be, but I don't think America lived up to it past the Thirteen Colonies.
 
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Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

Originally, America agreed to stay out of the troubles of the Europe and the rest of the world. It was the Great War (WWI) that brought America into the international fighting game - and it is when she emerged as a great power. The perspective in America shifted greatly at that time, and it hasn't much changed since. Americans now see themselves as the greatest and as the guardian of the world.

Such situation is bound to change. It never lasts too long, even within a great power that has absolute control over other sovereignties (an empire).

Did the Romans think it was disfavor with the gods that led to their loss of power and status? Did they think their greatness for the hundreds of years during which they stood at the top was due to military prowess or to the gods granting of good fortune? I assure you, there were no gods leading the Romans as they held world domination, and disfavor with the gods did not lead to Rome's downfall. It was all political and military decision that led to Rome's loss of greatness - and forces beyond their control.

The same is true of America. While the world was content to be docile, America sat at the top. Political and military decisions have shaped how the world views the United States, and forces beyond America's control (the formation of nationalistic pride in the Middle East, the strength of the markets in the Far East, etc.) have tipped the balances away from America's favor. That's just how the cookie crumbles.

I am always interested in how people think that God has blessed and protected America all these years, when America was forged on robbery, slavery, forced conversion, murder and genocide. I can't imagine God having been its author. It's just hard for me. I love the founders' original conception of what America was supposed to be, but I don't think America lived up to it past the Thirteen Colonies.

I agree our past is horrendous. And in just a few hundred years. But I pray that over the centuries and decades, that there have been faithful people who have remembered to pray for her as a country and I pray that God has forgiven that past and given us a vision of a Godly future. Sometimes I could see it. Not much now at all.
Israel deserves to be Israel. I believe that the land was promised to Abraham and the Jews are what openly remains of Abraham's progeny that was promised the land. And I also believe that the promise of blessing or cursing on the countries in the world who bless or curse Israel. We should stand with Israel because it's the right thing to do and I also fully believe that we will receive blessings for blessing her with what she needs to survive the onslaught that rises against her. I also believe that as we've slipped away from standing firmly with Israel, that the promised curses have begun to fall on us and will continue until we changed our ways in that respect.
 
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Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

Originally, America agreed to stay out of the troubles of the Europe and the rest of the world. It was the Great War (WWI) that brought America into the international fighting game - and it is when she emerged as a great power. The perspective in America shifted greatly at that time, and it hasn't much changed since. Americans now see themselves as the greatest and as the guardian of the world.

Such situation is bound to change. It never lasts too long, even within a great power that has absolute control over other sovereignties (an empire).

Did the Romans think it was disfavor with the gods that led to their loss of power and status? Did they think their greatness for the hundreds of years during which they stood at the top was due to military prowess or to the gods granting of good fortune? I assure you, there were no gods leading the Romans as they held world domination, and disfavor with the gods did not lead to Rome's downfall. It was all political and military decision that led to Rome's loss of greatness - and forces beyond their control.

The same is true of America. While the world was content to be docile, America sat at the top. Political and military decisions have shaped how the world views the United States, and forces beyond America's control (the formation of nationalistic pride in the Middle East, the strength of the markets in the Far East, etc.) have tipped the balances away from America's favor. That's just how the cookie crumbles.

I am always interested in how people think that God has blessed and protected America all these years, when America was forged on robbery, slavery, forced conversion, murder and genocide. I can't imagine God having been its author. It's just hard for me. I love the founders' original conception of what America was supposed to be, but I don't think America lived up to it past the Thirteen Colonies.

I certainly cannot come up with a reason as to why G-d would bless the USA these days...
 
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This isn't a coming event.. it just happened.. and will effect us.

Thailand flooding closes 900 factories- 270 dead, 8 million affected
The Extinction Protocol: 2012 and beyond | 2012 and Earthchanges News events
October 12, 2011 – BANGKOK - At least 900 factories have been shut because of the flooding, many of them auto-parts manufacturers, and vehicle production will be down this year as a result
 
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4 quakes hit Guatemala

Mount Tabora is rumbling in Indonesia; killed 90,000 in 1815, and also darkened the skies.

Notice the order of events.

Matthew 24:29-30; Immediately after the tribulation of those days(remember tribulation first to the Jew, then to the Gentiles) the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken:

30. "Then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

I believe a GREAT EARTHQUAKE shall mark the parting of the way, and could very well darken the sun and the moon with volcanic ash.
Something else has happened over there in the Philippines...

Philippines to be hit with back-to-back typhoons
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.c...
September 30, 2011 – MANILA - Nalgae formed as a tropical depression over the western Pacific Ocean on Tuesday (27 September). By late on Thursday, it had strengthened into a typhoon.
 
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I see from that link we have another satellite heading to break up and enter the earths atmosphere.
I understand that sun storms are causing this.. break down the equipment, then they are without orbital controls.
 
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Magma plume: 5.1 magnitude earthquake strikes near Easter Island
Posted on October 11, 2011 by The Extinction Protocol


October 11, 2011 – Easter Island – A 5.1 magnitude earthquake struck the region of the Easter Island at a depth of 13.6 km or 8.5 miles. The number of magma plumes or ‘hotspots’ now recording seismic or volcanic activity due to a flux in the planet’s thermal gradient is increasing as our above map from a month ago of the planet’s hotspots prove.

same website...
 
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The "hyperactive Draconid Meteor Shower" begins on October 8, 2011 which is on the Lord's appointed Feast Day of Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement

"Draco" Origin: Greek Meaning: DRAGON; serpent!

The Draconoid meteor shower would certainly appear as "stars being flung" to Earth.

"Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red DRAGON with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.

His tail SWEPT A THIRD OF THE STARS FROM THE SKY AND FLUNG THEM TO EARTH. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth.." Revelation 12:3-4

The woman who the DRAGON stood in front of, who was about to give birth, is the woman in Revelation 12:1.

"She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth". Revelation 12:2



Hyperactive Draconid Meteor Shower Peaks This Week - Yahoo! News
 
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This is a cool site on the pole shift...
magneitic-north-pole-shift-50-year-periods-last-150-years.gif


Alarming NOAA data, Rapid Pole Shift - Modern Survival Blog – surviving uncertain times
 
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I am always interested in how people think that God has blessed and protected America all these years, when America was forged on robbery, slavery, forced conversion, murder and genocide. I can't imagine God having been its author. It's just hard for me. I love the founders' original conception of what America was supposed to be, but I don't think America lived up to it past the Thirteen Colonies.

GREAT post!
God blessed USA probably not for, but rather despite of its shortfalls, just like he blesses all of us ...

Would u mind elaborating on founding Fathers original conception you mentioned? Would LOVE to hear your views and explanations on this, yonah, if you have time. thnx in advance :)
 
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Originally Posted by yonah_mishael
I am always interested in how people think that God has blessed and protected America all these years, when America was forged on robbery, slavery, forced conversion, murder and genocide. I can't imagine God having been its author. It's just hard for me. I love the founders' original conception of what America was supposed to be, but I don't think America lived up to it past the Thirteen Colonies.
GREAT post!
God blessed USA probably not for, but rather despite of its shortfalls, just like he blesses all of us ...

Would u mind elaborating on founding Fathers original conception you mentioned? Would LOVE to hear your views and explanations on this, yonah, if you have time. thnx in advance :)

As a tribe enrolled Lakota(dad), that by Mom's side happens to be a Jew, I too would be interested in seeing your take on the earliest of Euro/Amerikan history, Yonah. Thx.

Off to a Sukkathon at our MO Shul this afternoon, probably very late returning, 120+ mile drive each way.
 
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Comet c/2010 x1 (Elenin)

Closer than the sun. Will be between earth and sun 9/26-9/29 and closest to earth on 10/16. Earth will go through its tail in early November so if it has much of a tail, meteorites and meteor showers then.

Asteroid 2005 YU55 will be between the earth and the moon 11/6-11/12 and be closed to earth on 11/9 ( Path may be affected by comet Elenin (or Elenin's tail) ? )

A couple of other NEO although not as big as 2005 YU55

Other meteor showers in 2011:

Draconids night of October 8
Orionids night of October 21
Leonids night of November 17
Geminids night of December 13

Currently Jupiter is visible in the night sky and is the largest that it will be this year.

Comet Levy early 2012
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It has been photographed...
 
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Niribu caught on camera... what is really interesting is the image reminded me of the "stone made without hands"... can you see the hand?

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The sky address is 5hr, 53m, 27s, -6 10'58 but it is no longer available on google earth. that section is now cut out... since this youtube was released.

watch
 
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