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I couldn't the the broad side of a barn at 20 feet with a squirt gun. Not the kind I grew up with anyway.
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I couldn't the the broad side of a barn at 20 feet with a squirt gun. Not the kind I grew up with anyway.So was I.
If squirt guns count.
It does seem like a lapse from the Secret Service.
One police officer standing on the roof of a building 130 yards away from where the Republican candidate would have prevented the shooting. How could you NOT have someone on top of building with a clear line of sight?
Mm, start?And it wouldn't surprise me a bit for the conspiracy-theory loons to start posting their nonsense on this forum.
Obviously not, but 20 is old enough to have the skill and young enough to have the eyesight, coordination and gall.So he's an expert marksman at the tender age of 20?
You request sources - yet you present none when requested from you. When you present sources for your statements, they will be substantiated, but complaining about something lacking sources, when your complaint lacks sources hold no weightWhat do you know of the Secret Service’s capacity to secure private facilities in the vicinity of the event? Do you know anything at all for certain or are you just assuming?
Hogwash - the military trains soldiers from 18 how to accurately fire a weapon. At 18 to 20 their eyesight is better than at any other time in life.Obviously not, but 20 is old enough to have the skill and young enough to have the eyesight, coordination and gall.
I was trained with such a weapon in the military and can speak from real life experience and live shooting experiences - how about you?Noting the op is presenting his layman's, uninformed opinion...based on events that are not even 24 hours old. I will treat it as such...and wait for the Secret Service, DHS etc, to issue their findings. Hopefully, we can keep the nonsense consipriacies crap to a minumum.....
Yes, of course, it was a security failure people were shot and one died at a venue being protected by the Secret Service. Other security failures were JFK and Ronald Reagan so protective measures were increased. They will learn from this failure also.There's some which are being interviewed on national media WHICH ARE and they're saying it was a security failure.
So was I....but I have enough smarts to know that armchair security experts are nothing but loud mouth critics with a huge chip on their shoulder.I was trained with such a weapon in the military and can speak from real life experience and live shooting experiences - how about you?
Experts are comparing this to the Regan shooting and saying the SS acted much faster then. They tossed him in a car while shots were still going off.Yes, of course, it was a security failure people were shot and one died at a venue being protected by the Secret Service. Other security failures were JFK and Ronald Reagan so protective measures were increased. They will learn from this failure also.
I was talking about this on a political site where a LOT of the posters are avid hunters. The consensus was that any decent hunter could have pretty easily made that shot. i.e. as a mater of standard procedure, that rooftop should have been a major spot to secure long before Trump hit the stage. 130 yards was nothing to those posters.So he's an expert marksman at the tender age of 20?
My question was why did they stand Trump up? To give the shooter another shot? But one of the problems is funding. Former presidents don’t get full SS protection and they have to rely on local law enforcement to help out.
One police officer standing on the roof of a building 130 yards away from where the Republican candidate would have prevented the shooting. How could you NOT have someone on top of building with a clear line of sight?
Ever heard of surveillance?He didn’t climb up there until after the event had already started. The building in question was private property outside the venue, so I imagine their capacity to lock it down would’ve been somewhat limited.
It wouldn't surprise me if he grew up hunting in PA but not with an AR.I have doubts the shooter had much if any training or even practice.
You can have the business remain open and still provide a decent level of security, it just takes a little planning and coordination.Source?
This was for a political rally for a candidate not in office, not an official government event. You need permits to even block out street parking. I imagine more than a few people getting testy if their businesses were locked down because the other guy was having a rally nearby.
Yes the FBI that held onto Hunter’s laptop for years and raided Mar-a-lago will do a thorough unbiased investigation I’m sureNoting the op is presenting his layman's, uninformed opinion...based on events that are not even 24 hours old. I will treat it as such...and wait for the Secret Service, DHS etc, to issue their findings. Hopefully, we can keep the nonsense consipriacies crap to a minumum.....
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