College Conservatism

[ImperialPhantom]

. Calling sin what the Bible calls sin is not a problem. Spreading the Gospel is not a problem. Believing what it says about Jesus being the only way to Heaven is not a problem. Keeping their noses clean is not a problem.

But your attitude that that's a CONSERVATIVE trait is a problem. That is a Christian trait, period. You're going off on some far-out tangent assuming that liberal Christians throw this away. Fact is, just as many conservative Christians make a mockery of this as liberals do.

 

[Sketcher]

But your attitude that that's a CONSERVATIVE trait is a problem. That is a Christian trait, period. You're going off on some far-out tangent assuming that liberal Christians throw this away. Fact is, just as many conservative Christians make a mockery of this as liberals do.

I believe it's a Christian thing too. However, not everyone that claims to be Christian believes and does these things. In this PC culture we tend to call them liberal Christians instead of heretics.

 

[ImperialPhantom]

And "we" refers to conservative Republichristians who see liberals as the "enemy".

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

In this PC culture we tend to call them liberal Christians instead of heretics.

Ooh, wow, thats a new one that I've never heard.

Hey IP, did you know that we're heretics?

 

[Sketcher]

Ooh, wow, thats a new one that I've never heard.

Hey IP, did you know that we're heretics?

Hey, if you are, it's out of IP's mouth. Those are Christian traits, period. Unless of course you have the same "problem" I have.

But your attitude that that's a CONSERVATIVE trait is a problem. That is a Christian trait, period. You're going off on some far-out tangent assuming that liberal Christians throw this away.

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

Hey, if you are, it's out of IP's mouth. Those are Christian traits, period. Unless of course you have the same "problem" I have.

Oh get off your high horse, seriously.

 

[none the wiser]

Everyone would do well to take a few steps back from this.

Back to the OP, for what it's worth, there's a conservative Christian group and a liberal Christian group here on campus.

 

[sinneD]

This started out as a good thread. Let's not turn it into an argument and get it closed for debating.

The OP asked a legitimate question. Please stay on topic.
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[MandM]

OP instead of "liberal" or "conservative", this is what you need to focus on:

http://www.fourspirituallaws.org/laws/english/flash/

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Oh get off your high horse, seriously.

What makes your faith "liberal"? Case by case..

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

What makes your faith "liberal"? Case by case..

Could you expand your question a bit please? I'm having a slow day and I'm not 100% sure what you're asking

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Could you expand your question a bit please? I'm having a slow day and I'm not 100% sure what you're asking

I mean, what about your faith makes people want to brand you with such a title? What is it that makes you a "heretic" to people?

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

I mean, what about your faith makes people want to brand you with such a title? What is it that makes you a "heretic" to people?

I don't believe pre-marital sex is wrong between a couple in a loving monogamous relationship.
I support gay marriage
I'm pro-choice (but I'm against abortion)
I don't have an issue with gay people have leadership in the church as long as they are celibate
I don't have an issue with moderate drinking
I read Scriptures while looking at the context in which it was written
I believe that Scripture is God breathed but I do not believe it is meant to be taken literally
I lean more towards theistic evolution then the literal 7 days of Creation
I don't believe the man is "in charge" of a woman
I don't believe that only the woman should have to submit to her husband, but I believe both should submit to each other
I believe a woman can hold leadership positions in the church
And I am also very liberal politically

If you have any questions feel free to ask, I hope this answered your question.

 

[ImperialPhantom]

I don't believe the man is "in charge" of a woman
I don't believe that only the woman should have to submit to her husband,

I do. Big time.















*ducks to avoid the gunfire in my direction*

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

I do. Big time.















*ducks to avoid the gunfire in my direction*

Guess you're dating the wrong girl then

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I don't believe pre-marital sex is wrong between a couple in a loving monogamous relationship.
I support gay marriage
I'm pro-choice (but I'm against abortion)
I don't have an issue with gay people have leadership in the church as long as they are celibate
I don't have an issue with moderate drinking
I read Scriptures while looking at the context in which it was written
I believe that Scripture is God breathed but I do not believe it is meant to be taken literally
I lean more towards theistic evolution then the literal 7 days of Creation
I don't believe the man is "in charge" of a woman
I don't believe that only the woman should have to submit to her husband, but I believe both should submit to each other
I believe a woman can hold leadership positions in the church
And I am also very liberal politically

If you have any questions feel free to ask, I hope this answered your question.

I see. You support murder, but you're against murder? Or, you support a woman's choice to murder her unborn child, but you're against murder of an unborn child? I don't quite understand that. If you support gay marriage, why does the gay church leader have to be celibate? All he/she needs is a "loving" partner. I see marriage as a declaration of love. (I suppose cultural values are important too, since you got a "certificate" of divorce. What is moderate drinking? Drinking in moderation, that's fine. Submitting to each other, that defines marriage too, because your flesh is no longer yours, but that of your spouse. I suppose your views on premarital sex, (Is it even premarital sex in your view?) and maybe your interpretations of scripture would allow one to brand you with such a title.

 

[Candide]

I don't believe pre-marital sex is wrong between a couple in a loving monogamous relationship.
I support gay marriage
I'm pro-choice (but I'm against abortion)
I don't have an issue with gay people have leadership in the church as long as they are celibate
I don't have an issue with moderate drinking
I read Scriptures while looking at the context in which it was written
I believe that Scripture is God breathed but I do not believe it is meant to be taken literally
I lean more towards theistic evolution then the literal 7 days of Creation
I don't believe the man is "in charge" of a woman
I don't believe that only the woman should have to submit to her husband, but I believe both should submit to each other
I believe a woman can hold leadership positions in the church
And I am also very liberal politically

If you have any questions feel free to ask, I hope this answered your question.

I don't see how many of those apply to "liberalism". When I speak of liberal or conservative Christianity, I'm mainly speaking about Bible interpretation. A couple of those things on your list deal with those, but the rest seem to be politically liberal, rather than religiously liberal. If I made a list of my political and religious beliefs, it would look fairly similar to yours...but it's somewhat irrelevant. Many religious conservatives I know are political liberals, and vice versa. The two don't really need to go hand in hand.

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

I don't see how many of those apply to "liberalism". When I speak of liberal or conservative Christianity, I'm mainly speaking about Bible interpretation. A couple of those things on your list deal with those, but the rest seem to be politically liberal, rather than religiously liberal. If I made a list of my political and religious beliefs, it would look fairly similar to yours...but it's somewhat irrelevant. Many religious conservatives I know are political liberals, and vice versa. The two don't really need to go hand in hand.

On this forum they do, trust me.

Can you maybe give some examples on what you feel would be religiously liberal from your point of view?

 

[Candide]

Religious liberalism = Allowing historical context to influence your interpretation of the Bible, not believing that the Bible is to be taken completely literal...etc.

Like I said, you can believe those things, without being politically liberal, etc.

 

[Beautiful Fireball]

Religious liberalism = Allowing historical context to influence your interpretation of the Bible, not believing that the Bible is to be taken completely literal...etc.

Like I said, you can believe those things, without being politically liberal, etc.

Then yeah,by that definition I would be considered religiously liberal. I do not believe for one second that Scripture was meant to be taken 100% literally. I do read the Bible while looking at the historical context and going from there.