Right, and I certainly agree. But my point is that too often, religiously liberal is taken to mean politically liberal as well..when that needn't be the case at all.
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She supports the legality of it, not the act of doing it, and she would never get an abortion for herself. As for the gay marriage, I believe straight people have NO right to comment on it until the straight divorce rate is down below 40 percent. Let the gays marry, so that straights use their lower divorce rate as a sign to fix their ways.
I'm more conservative than CoG is, but I, like her, don't really support theocratic laws. They push people away from Christianity. Countries where Christianity is growing the most (African countries, China, India, etc) have anything but Christian-friendly laws.
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Beautiful Fireball
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Thanks for responding. I had a big long one and then my internet cut out and I didn't feel like going over the whole thing again.
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But this is not a debate about abortion and I'm not getting into it and hijacking the thread anymore then it already has been.
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Apollo Celestio
Deal with it.
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Well, for us as Christians, it is. We have a righteous judge to answer for you know. Expecting it from the world is delusional though. But abortion is the taking of lives, our country should not cater to such a sin. Honestly, if a woman is forced to back alley abortions, it'd mean less death, right? (It's not a large amount that would be that desperate..) One's view of gay marriage is highly dependent on their views of gay sex. I think gay sex is a sin, and marriage is pretty much the "OK" to have sex, so why even bother? I don't plan to get married myself and I'm straight so I won't forcibly oppose it since those who will sin in that way won't care about marriage anyway. (That being said, I think those who oppose gay adoption are foolish.) :/ We should employ the message that Jesus accepts the sinner, the church (Not the ONE TRUE CHURCH) but the church accepts sinners too, but through God, we don't stay that way, if someone wants their sin over God.. then they should leave..
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Beautiful Fireball
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But not everyone is a Christian. God doesn't force us to believe in Him therefore I am not going to force my beliefs on anyone. Am I going to share them? Yes. Am I going to try my absolute hardest to share Christ? Yes I am. But I am not going to force my beliefs on anyone.
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Apollo Celestio
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I'm talking when they are already in the church. Witnessing isn't my strong point, I don't really know how I would get an unbeliever to believe (Let's leave that to God..), I don't want to cut out the truth and preach a false gospel. What is the line of "sharing" and "forcing"? I wish I could share my faith (boldly..) to others, but i'm a coward. ><;
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Beautiful Fireball
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Sorry I misunderstood. What was I talking about that would go against the church? And don't mention the political stuff, we're talking religious stuff now.
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Almost your entire post was a non-response to the question I asked: should all sins be against the law?
And your view that back alley abortions would be uncommon is very wrong. Women who are desperate enough to go for an abortion in the first place, would either go that route, or force themselves to miscarry.
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To go to such lengths, they will answer for it.
Against the law? In a perfect society, yes. In ours, it's but a dream.
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I suppose your personal interpretations of scripture, what is to be taken literally? What is not to be taken literally? (Besides the obvious parables..) Gay Marriage, Pre-Marital Sex.
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In a perfect society they wouldn't need to be against the law, because we just wouldn't do them. But society will never be perfect, of course.
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