Co-Redeemer?

[Iollain]

And when Mary was submissive to God, she reversved what Eve did...Mary did what Eve didn't..was that so hard??

Well that is a good thing, however Eve did have satan himself trick her, Mary had an angel come with truth.....just to be fair.

 

[IamAdopted]

And when Mary was submissive to God, she reversved what Eve did...Mary did what Eve didn't..was that so hard??

Sorry that is not how it works.. It was through Adam that sin came and through Christ that we have redemption..There are many women that were raised from the dead when Christ rose from the dead. All those women that believed on Him before He became flesh.. Those in the OT.. Mary really had nothing to do with our redemption. She did bare the saviour.. But redemption only Comes from Christ alone..

 

[IamAdopted]

John 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.


48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;
50 this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world."

Okay.. This is true.. He is the bread from Heaven. Saints have eternal life.. They still need their ressurected bodies.. The bible tells us they sleep in Christ. When the ressurection happens and all the dead rise In christ and those of us here will be caught up with Him..

 

[StTherese]

Sorry that is not how it works.. It was through Adam that sin came and through Christ that we have redemption..There are many women that were raised from the dead when Christ rose from the dead. All those women that believed on Him before He became flesh.. Those in the OT.. Mary really had nothing to do with our redemption. She did bare the saviour.. But redemption only Comes from Christ alone..

What if Mary had said, no?

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

What if Mary had said, no?

GOD WOULD OF USED SOMEONE ELSE!

 

[repentant]

Well that is a good thing, however Eve did have satan himself trick her, Mary had an angel come with truth.....just to be fair.

Really has nothing to do with it...but Eve had GOD Himself tell her not to eat the fruit..

 

[IamAdopted]

And when Mary was submissive to God, she reversved what Eve did...Mary did what Eve didn't..was that so hard??

the sins of the Father shall be visited on the children.. This is scripture.. The bible does not say the sins of the mother.. It is always the sins of the Father..When God is spoken of He is referred to the God of Jacob The God of Abraham.. Always the men. Women were created for the Glory of Man.. Men were created for the glory of God.

 

[NDIrish]

GOD WOULD OF USED SOMEONE ELSE!

So God would have just kept going down some divine list of women to ask until He finally found someone to say yes? And Mary was just fortunate enough to be asked first? You make it sould like He's a desperate teenager looking for a date to the prom.

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

So God would have just kept going down some divine list of women to ask until He finally found someone to say yes? And Mary was just fortunate enough to be asked first? You make it sould like He's a desperate teenager looking for a date to the prom.

.....NOT worth even responding to

 

[repentant]

Sorry that is not how it works.. It was through Adam that sin came and through Christ that we have redemption..There are many women that were raised from the dead when Christ rose from the dead. All those women that believed on Him before He became flesh.. Those in the OT.. Mary really had nothing to do with our redemption. She did bare the saviour.. But redemption only Comes from Christ alone..

So are you blatently denying that Mary did what Eve didn't? Are you saying that Eve didn't disobey God, and was not submisssive to Him, and that Mary didn't obey God and wasn't submissive to Him?

Mary had ALOT to do with our redemption..through her obedience to God (opposite of what Eve did) we are able to be saved by Christ.

And what does this have to do with women rising from the dead and believing in Him?

Also not that this has anything to do with the topic, ut since you said it, was is your opinion on what it says about women being saved through childirth?

 

[IamAdopted]

What if Mary had said, no?

well I guess if she would have said no that God would have went to someone who said yes.. This was Gods plan of redemption. Not mans.. It wasn't the fact that Mary said Yes that brought us our redemption.. It was that Christ died and shed His blood for our redemption.. The sinless life that Christ lead and the blood that He shed is our redemption.. For He alone was the spotless lamb. No one before had ever been like Him and no one after for He alone was sinless. He alone was Spotless..Every human being sins. Except for Christ.. This is just how it has been and until Christ comes back and we have our new Heaven and New earth it will be this way.. That is why we need Christ.. This is why He came.. He died so that we may live and have faith that what He did for us is our only way to the Father.. We can't get in any other way..

 

[StTherese]

GOD WOULD OF USED SOMEONE ELSE!

Well, maybe you are right, but that must say something about Mary if God knew she would not deny Him...no?

 

[IamAdopted]

So God would have just kept going down some divine list of women to ask until He finally found someone to say yes? And Mary was just fortunate enough to be asked first? You make it sould like He's a desperate teenager looking for a date to the prom.

You act as if this was a date with something else in mind. How disgusting.. Mary served God before she conceived Jesus.. She was in the temple when the Angel appeared to Her.. Serving God.. She knew and was waiting for the comming Messiah.. He had been prophesied about years before hand.. So when the Angle came to her She was lets say quite shocked... Knowing that she was the one chosen for this event. Wow knock my socks off.. What a humbling experience that would have been..

 

[repentant]

the sins of the Father shall be visited on the children.. This is scripture.. The bible does not say the sins of the mother.. It is always the sins of the Father..When God is spoken of He is referred to the God of Jacob The God of Abraham.. Always the men. Women were created for the Glory of Man.. Men were created for the glory of God.

But wasn't the enmity put between the woman and HER offspring?

 

[repentant]

What if no one said yes?

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

well?? what would of happened?? Guess we will never know huh?

 

[NDIrish]

You act as if this was a date with something else in mind. How disgusting...

I'm not sure I understand what you're insinuating, but for the record, I am not proposing that God had intercourse with the Most Holy Virgin Mary. That would be blasphemous...

 

[NDIrish]

well?? what would of happened?? Guess we will never know huh?

Difficult question to answer, eh?

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

Difficult question to answer, eh?

well, what is YOUR answer since you are a know it all...

 

[Iollain]

Really has nothing to do with it...but Eve had GOD Himself tell her not to eat the fruit..

Heeerrrrrrrrmmmmhee, this is true.