Circumcision?

[wowbagger]

Plus circumcsion is quite healthy too.

In the long run that is

Not really....for the hundreds of babies that die from complications (in the US anyway). I'm sure there are thousands dying in Africa. Not to mention the many many more that are permanently disfigured.

How awful would you feel if you just consented to ELECTIVE surgery on your perfectly healthy newborn baby- and he died? Even if the chance is low...why take it at all? Wait till he's old enough to decide if he wants to remove his body parts.

As for why the NT changed its position on Jewish law-
Just imagine you are Paul, trying to convert all those adult male gentiles. Your minions you sent to them start preaching that they must cut off part of their genitals for this new god. What?!!! This is a most unpopular requirement! Nearly all of them refuse. So Paul changes the rule and everyone is much happier!!
"No no no- I said circumcision of the "heart"- um....yeah, um, thats it."

Paul had some decent marketing strategies. I would bet that had circumcision remained a requirement, Christianity would be another lost ancient cult today.

 

[Ave Maria]

Jews were always circumcised as a sign that they were Jews. It was a ceremonial act. Personally, I feel that circumcision is totally a personal decision that should be made by the parents or the adult man. I don't plan on circumcising any son that I have in the future.

 

[DrFate]

Not really....for the hundreds of babies that die from complications (in the US anyway). I'm sure there are thousands dying in Africa. Not to mention the many many more that are permanently disfigured.
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I would bet that had circumcision remained a requirement, Christianity would be another lost ancient cult today.

Yeah! Circumcision is genetal mutilation. I wish I would have had the choice in the matter, but my incoherent screams of Pain were not enough to diswade the maniacs from their vodoo ritual.

 

[DrFate]

I wonder why God decided to borrow an Egyptian custom? Is it just coinicidence? Heres an egyptian quote that predates Moses by 1000 years

The Offering of Uha, c. 2400 BCE

An offering which the king and Anubis, Who is Upon His Mountain, He Who is in Ut, the Lord of the Holy Land, give: An invocation-offering to the Count, Seal-Bearer of the King of Rekhyt [Lower Egypt], Sole Companion, and Lector Priest, honored with the great god, the Lord of Heaven, Uha, who says: I was one beloved of his father, favored of his mother, whom his brothers and sisters loved. When I was circumcised, together with one hundred and twenty men, and one hundred and twenty women, there was none thereof who hit out, there was none thereof who was hit, there was none thereof who scratched, there was none thereof who was scratched. I was a commoner of repute, who lived on his own property, plowed with his own span of oxen, and sailed in his own ship, and not through that which I had found in the possession of my father, honored Uha.

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Maybe He wanted to make coin purses out of them?

 

[Fear]

I'm glad that my parents didn't decide to unnecessarily remove any of my body parts and I'll probably never make the conscious decision to unless I have no choice (cancer comes to mind). Also, maybe foreskins were a result of the fall if God did not want us to have them, but we are born with them anyways. Which begs the question of why we aren't born with exeskeletons that God wishes for us to remove.

 

[DrFate]

Cut it off For God and Country! Many Jews beleive that circumcision is necessary for salvation.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Whenever I was pregnant, my inlaws tried to talk me into having the baby circumcised if it was a boy.
They knew how I felt about it. So instead of arguing, I purposely had all girls.

Read some articles about circumcision, it's a horrific and unnecessary mutilation ritual.

A few years ago I remember reading that uncircumcised males experience more pleasurable sex. Anybody know anything about that?

 

[Fear]

I know there are a lot of nerve endings in that little bit that they cut off, isn't that part of the reason for circumcision, to discourage sexual activity?

 

[Annabel Lee]

I know there are a lot of nerve endings in that little bit that they cut off, isn't that part of the reason for circumcision, to discourage sexual activity?

I'd hate to think that was one of the original reasons for circumcision. If I was a guy, I'd be seriously annoyed.

 

[cygnusx1]

Yeah! Circumcision is genetal mutilation. I wish I would have had the choice in the matter, but my incoherent screams of Pain were not enough to diswade the maniacs from their vodoo ritual.

.......... ...........
I hope you can forgive them .......

 

[cygnusx1]

I know there are a lot of nerve endings in that little bit that they cut off, isn't that part of the reason for circumcision, to discourage sexual activity?

according to a radio interview I heared a few Months ago ........... NO!

 

[HazyRigby]

Heck, I'm a girl, and I'm seriously annoyed.

From what I've read, it's not just the nerve endings in the foreskin that are lost, there's a loss of sensation in the formerly covered area. Not to get too graphic, but the uncovered area becomes less sensitive and more "calloused," so to speak, over time. Without the natural cover, the glans hardens.

...At least, that's what I've read. Yikes.

 

[HazyRigby]

according to a radio interview I heared a few Months ago ........... NO!

Read up on the history of the practice. I think you'll be surprised.

I fail to understand why any man would have an interest in supporting this practice.

 

[Cherub8]

I oppose circumcision for many reasons.

- it is completely unnecessary.
- it causes pain to the child.
- it causes permanent nerve damage.

Pro-cutters claim that uncircumcized males experience a lot of infections. Yet, I am uncircumcized and have never had any infections. Good hygene must be the key? I say leave it as God made it.

If I have boys, they will not be circumcized.
No way. Never.

 

[Gifted_Christian]

Your all are wrong. The Jews were cirsumsized they did it for one reason, it desensitizes the penis. They did this so that they wouldn't go around with an erection all day because of a woman. They wanted to be pure and whole to God and God only. They were only aroused when they were having sex with their wives. Other than that, it's preatty hard to get an erection with a circumsized penis.

 

[Cherub8]

They did this so that they wouldn't go around with an erection all day because of a woman.

Um.............
Never had that issue.

 

[Gifted_Christian]

ok maybe not ALL day but I think you get what I mean...

 

[Cherub8]

ok maybe not ALL day but I think you get what I mean...

Yeah....I do.
It used to happen at my old workplace sometimes, like when a pretty girl would come through the checkstand...then I'd go hide. ANyway.

 

[Gifted_Christian]

lol that is a bit frustrating when that happens it gets preatty anoying and besides if people saw that you had an erection it would probably be the most embarassing moment in yer life!!!

 

[S Walch]

I find it's best to sit down if it happens in the work place...

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