Christians only need to vote one more time

[public hermit]

That is a better question. I might expand the scope and suggest if the universal vote scheme is good for the CR. If it were not Donald Trump, it would be someone else. It is a good car, but the driver is the one who makes it dangerous. It is a system issue. I think we are living in a phase where the divide is so deep and so evenly split that the extremes glow and the moderates fade. It is like a road with deep ditches on either side. As the road narrows, people start sliding into one ditch or the other. And this road is narrowing. I think the deciding factor in our case is Abortion. I have to admit that this is a no-compromise issue with me. I cannot vote for a pro-abortion candidate. There is no compromise for this on either side. I am not sure what the solution is. One side or the other will always be mad. We are just stuck, and we end up with Trumps and Bidens. I think a lot of Democrats want a reasonable solution to immigration... but they cannot get past the abortion issue. Like myself, I would like to see a reasonable solution to the climate issue, but I cannot get past the abortion issue. So, we all endure some unwanted baggage because of this one thing....
Rambling.

I agree it seems everybody is at the extreme, and that is a problem. What is middle ground between two extremes regarding abortion? I don't think giving it to the states is the best plan. It's too contentious an issue. We need a federal law that splits the middle. Honestly, I think Roe was the compromise we need.

Roe v. Wade created the framework to govern abortion regulation based on the trimesters of pregnancy. In the first trimester, it allowed almost no regulations. In the second, it allowed regulations to protect women’s health. In the third, it allowed states to ban abortions so long as exceptions were made to protect the life and health of the mother.

Quick Facts You Should Know About Roe v. Wade (Published 2022)

A short history of the landmark case.

www.nytimes.com

That's a moderate position between the current extremes, and states can still ban abortion. If not Roe, we need something not far from it.

But that's just one issue. The two sides need to start talking about moderate solutions to policy disagreements, and then learn to live with it. A house divided cannot stand, and such.

Our common interests as individuals and communities are best served in coming together, working together. Trump will not bring things together. He thrives off division, which is bad for our country. We don't need gas on the fire.

 

[ralliann]

You say that, but I'm not at all sure that the voters will not elect Kamala this November, and then where is the so called majority then?

Their own worst enemies....

Mind you, I'm not saying she will win, I'm thinking Trump should, but it looks to be a very close one. And if that close one is decided in the urban areas like last time, Trump is done.

Of course it's close. The media propagandize. Wait for a debate, and see.

 

[ralliann]

Agreed. I'll rephrase: Is Donald Trump good for our constitutional republic?

Yes.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I agree it seems everybody is at the extreme, and that is a problem. What is middle ground between two extremes regarding abortion? I don't think giving it to the states is the best plan. It's too contentious an issue. We need a federal law that splits the middle. Honestly, I think Roe was the compromise we need.

Roe v. Wade created the framework to govern abortion regulation based on the trimesters of pregnancy. In the first trimester, it allowed almost no regulations. In the second, it allowed regulations to protect women’s health. In the third, it allowed states to ban abortions so long as exceptions were made to protect the life and health of the mother.

Quick Facts You Should Know About Roe v. Wade (Published 2022)

A short history of the landmark case.

www.nytimes.com

That's a moderate position between the current extremes, and states can still ban abortion. If not Roe, we need something not far from it.

But that's just one issue. The two sides need to start talking about moderate solutions to policy disagreements, and then learn to live with it. A house divided cannot stand, and such.

Our common interests as individuals and communities are best served in coming together, working together. Trump will not bring things together. He thrives off division, which is bad for our country. We don't need gas on the fire.

Thanks for the response...

 

[iarwain]

I've said this before, but this is how I feel about it:
There are things about Trump I like, and things about him I don't like.
But there is nothing I like about what Biden (now Harris) has been doing or wants to do.

 

[BobRyan]

This video is 58 minutes long. Right now, I am listening closely to it in order to find the timestamps for the quote from the OP article. I want to find the timestamps so that I can establish the context around what Trump said concerning Christians and voting.

The context is that after four years of fixing what Trump views as ballot stuffing, fake ballots, fraud creeping into the voting system that even Obama warned about when he was asked about certain forms of mail-in-voting... he is claiming that this emergency call on all Christians to vote (instead of the normal - stay-at-home-because-politics-is-not-Christian) won't be needed again. Those Christians who wish to just stay out of it will be able to go back to doing what they were doing before.

And of course Trump would be out of position to run anymore at that point anyway.

So then - what the news almost never will tell you ...

from: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ Line
"“I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true,” he said. “Because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don’t vote. And I’m explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote anymore. I won’t need your vote.”

The Left wing media idea is "Republicans don't read" and "they can be fooled regarding what what was said" as if Republicans EVER had EVER heard from Trump that he wanted to end all elections (the way the left likes to spin that one).

How many times can the left dupe the public .. and the public still falls for it??

 

[RileyG]

Yes.

Word.

 

[Servus]

How can one Truthfully claim to be a Christian and support the anti-Christ Israelis?

Christians have defended Israel for centuries.

 

[HIM]

Christians have defended Israel for centuries.

Ignorantly

 

[SavedByGrace3]

How can one Truthfully claim to be a Christian and support the anti-Christ Israelis?

If you are correct about Israelis, at worst, other believers may not see it the way you do. So, I don't see a need to question their faith. I doubt anyone is sitting around saying, "Let's support the anti-Christ Israelis." I suspect many of us have the idea that we should bless Israel and not curse it. Again... even if that is, at worst, misinformed, that is no reason to question their faith.