Christians and Firearms

[partinobodycular]

Any laws or restrictions or rules against firearms only decieves or tricks you into thinking you are doing something to address the real true source of the real problem when really you are not, etc, it is only just so you can just pat yourself on the back and make yourself feel better about yourself while you completely ignore "them", etc, who will more than likely just find other ways to do it or express themselves that way in America anyway, etc...

You are deceiving yourself into thinking you have truly done something about the problem when you really haven't, etc, but just that temporarily makes you feel good about yourself, but does absolutely nothing about the real problem, which will just come back up in other ways if all the guns are taken away in America, etc...

Or at least, that's my prediction at least, etc...

And that will be because you never really focused on or ever really addressed the real problem, etc...

God Bless!

So your answer is that it would have absolutely no negative affects whatsoever.

So there's no reason not to try it, because even if it doesn't work you've lost absolutely nothing. Except for the fact that a few spoiled kids have lost their toys, which had no real benefits anyway.

So why are you so against at least trying it?

 

[partinobodycular]

If people start mowing down crowds of people with a vehicle, or vehicles, are you then going to take away everybody's ability to drive or have or own vehicles, etc...?

But getting rid of cars would have a very negative effect on American society, whereas getting rid of assault weapons and high capacity magazines would have absolutely no negative effects.

So the difference is obvious.

 

[Neogaia777]

But getting rid of cars would have a very negative effect on American society, whereas getting rid of assault weapons and high capacity magazines would have absolutely no negative effects.

So the difference is obvious.

It would change absolutely nothing either way right now, or in the immediate either way right now, but I think it would change a lot, later on down the road, and I think very, very "negatively" if it were allowed right now, because it won't stop there, etc...

Individual states should also be allowed to decide this as well, etc, which is what we have right now in this country, and I think it should stay that way, etc...

And I am also not totally against certain rules or laws being imposed in larger urban areas, but that also would not be so or would be lifted in other more rural country areas, etc...

But I also think if you give them anything at all at this point, it will just lead to them trying to take them all away everywhere later on down the road eventually, etc...

California, and a number of other states right now have restrictions on magazines, etc, not that it really does anything, etc, because if people really want to, they will find a way, etc...

Which goes right back to addressing the real source of the problem instead of just the externals, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

So your answer is that it would have absolutely no negative affects whatsoever.

So there's no reason not to try it, because even if it doesn't work you've lost absolutely nothing. Except for the fact that a few spoiled kids have lost their toys, which had no real benefits anyway.

So why are you so against at least trying it?

Spoiled kids and toys???

Really???

It's blantanty obvious you know nothing about firearms, etc, or you would know that those of us who grew up with them from the time we were very young, and hunt and fish and are outdoorsman, etc, take them a lot more seriously than that, etc...

But, go ahead and insult us if you like, etc...

Because I'm betting you do and have done none of those things your entire life, etc...

Never ever had to learn where your food truly comes from, or at what cost, and that those lessons, are completely foreign to you, etc...

But and/or anyway...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

So your answer is that it would have absolutely no negative affects whatsoever.

So there's no reason not to try it, because even if it doesn't work you've lost absolutely nothing. Except for the fact that a few spoiled kids have lost their toys, which had no real benefits anyway.

So why are you so against at least trying it?

We have tried it, and other states are right now trying it, etc, and what we have observed, is that it doesn't really change a thing, etc...

The real true source of the problem, still exists, etc...

God Bless!

 

[partinobodycular]

It would change absolutely nothing either way right now, or in the immediate either way right now, but I think it would change a lot, later on down the road, and I think very, very "negatively" if it were allowed right now, because it won't stop there, etc...

So you think that it would have a negative effect at some point in the future...maybe, but it would have one very definite effect right now, kids would no longer be massacred in their classrooms by teenagers with assault weapons and high capacity magazines.

But you're willing to bet their lives that something really, really terrible would happen, as if kids getting massacred in their classrooms isn't terrible enough.

But my point still stands, you can point to absolutely no negative effects that would occur due to banishing assault weapons and high capacity magazines.

So why exactly do you think that those kids needed to die?

 

[Neogaia777]

But getting rid of cars would have a very negative effect on American society, whereas getting rid of assault weapons and high capacity magazines would have absolutely no negative effects.

So the difference is obvious.

So, it is only right to take some gun rights away, only because it would be more difficult for Americans to give up cars or their own personal driving privileges, etc...?

Is that what you are saying...?

Because if they are killing people with them, then I thought that would always be of much greater importance, etc...

But I guess it turns out that it really is not, etc, right...?

God Bless!

 

[partinobodycular]

So, it is only right to take some gun rights away, only because it would be more difficult for Americans to give up cars or their own personal driving privileges, etc...?

Is that what you are saying...?

Because if they are killing people with them, then I thought that would always be of much greater importance, etc...

If you're too dense to figure this out, then I can't help you. But I'm not surprised.

 

[Neogaia777]

So you think that it would have a negative effect at some point in the future...maybe, but it would have one very definite effect right now, kids would no longer be massacred in their classrooms by teenagers with assault weapons and high capacity magazines.

But you're willing to bet their lives that something really, really terrible would happen, as if kids getting massacred in their classrooms isn't terrible enough.

But my point still stands, you can point to absolutely no negative effects that would occur due to banishing assault weapons and high capacity magazines.

So why exactly do you think that those kids needed to die?

It still would have happened anyway, and still will continue to happen anyway, the shooter I guess would have just have had to have carried more magazines with him, which I have no doubt that he just would have, etc...

And I already told you that there is absolutely no difference between military style looking weapons/guns, and others with the same ability/caliber and/or capacity, etc...

And if you knew anything at all about firearms, then you would know that already, etc...

If you don't do something about the real true source of the problem, it will still just continue to happen anyway, etc...

If not with a gun, then with other things or something else, etc...

Because your not really addressing the real true problem, etc...

God Bless!

 

[partinobodycular]

God Bless!

Just as an FYI, I wish that you would take those two words off of the end of your posts to me, I find them very insulting.

 

[Neogaia777]

If you're too dense to figure this out, then I can't help you. But I'm not surprised.

I think I've got it figured out pretty well actually...

Lives only matter only based on how difficult or not difficult it is for people to give it up or not give it up only, etc...

Think I've got it pretty well, etc...

Not that it would ever do anything to address the real true source of the real problem anyway, which was my "much greater point" anyway, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Just as an FYI, I wish that you would take those two words off of the end of your posts to me, I find them very insulting.

Too bad.

God Bless!

 

[partinobodycular]

Too bad.

God Bless!

Oh it's not the words themselves that I find insulting, it's the fact that they're coming out of your mouth that I find insulting.

 

[Neogaia777]

Oh it's not the words themselves that I find insulting, it's the fact that they're coming out of your mouth that I find insulting.

And what do you know about me...?

Other than that, right now, we are on opposite sides of the whole gun debate that is, etc...?

If you met me in person, I think you'd eventually take a liking to me, etc...

Most people do eventually, etc...

I'm not a bad/evil/wicked person, etc, and I suspect that you are not either, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

 

[partinobodycular]

If you met me in person, I think you'd eventually take a liking to me, etc...

I can absolutely guarantee you that that would not happen.

 

[Neogaia777]

I can absolutely guarantee you that that would not happen.

All based on just only your judgement of our only disagreeing on just only one single subject on here???

Really???

You have that much hate in your heart, do you...?

Well, that's sad/a shame/regrettable, etc...

I personally try not to judge people, and most certainly not "hate them", just because we had some kind of random disagreement online, or on here, etc....

But, I guess it's "whatever", I guess...

Sorry you feel that way...

And with absolutely no offense intended, have a good night and,

"God Bless!", ok...

 

[Neogaia777]

@partinobodycular

Now I mean no offense by this, but you really should learn how to get along with, and not "hate" most especially, people who are not like exactly you, or that have different views than you...

It does a lot of damage to everyone, most especially you, etc...

People take what people say to each other online, way, way, way too seriously if you ask me, and they need to lighten up a bit...

If you didn't already know this kind of thing happens online, and happens all of the time online, then maybe you shouldn't get on here, if you just can't handle it, and you know it could potentially poison your soul if you let it, etc...

Just my opinion/advice though/anyway...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

@partinobodycular

And since you don't really know me, let me tell you a few things about myself, etc, I am 43 years old now, and live in city/town that has around 20,000 people now, but didn't always, it use to be less than that when I was growing up, etc, and the next largest city/town is 60 to 100 miles away, and then after that, one with a population exceeding 100,000 people, is about 300 miles away, etc, and that is in every direction, etc, I'm surrounded by forest and wilderness areas, etc, and grew up with hunting and fishing and outdoor activities and all of that, all of my life, etc, and I have no desire to move from here to a place with a lot more people, but I like it here, etc, so you should know I have grown up with guns my entire life, and from a very young age, etc, they are kind of necessary to the culture around here, etc, or that used to exist and/or prevailed around here, etc, just so you know where my views/opinions come from, etc...

I don't consider myself a democrat or republican, etc, but my views might be best described as "other", etc...

I still do outdoor activities as much as I can down to this day, etc, but they seem to be disappearing now even here, etc, but I still do them as much as I can, etc...

I'm not stupid, like many of you might think some people like me might be, etc, but am pretty sharp, and am "fairly or reasonably or decently intelligent", I guess you could say I guess, etc, and I actually love knowledge and love learning, if that's not obvious to many of you by now, etc, and I obviously know how to use a computer/phone and/or the internet also, etc, which is how I am mostly able to educate myself and have been able to educate myself over the years also, and is also how or why I am still able to keep up with some of you on here still even now also, etc...

Which I do engage in sometimes, etc, on here, etc, but it is not my whole entire life by any means, etc, so I don't treat it as such, etc...

I was married, but now I'm not married, or am no longer married, but am single now, etc, and I am probably going to stay that way now for the rest of my life now, etc, as I feel like that chapter in my life is now overwith now, or is closed for the most part, etc...

I have one child, but she was grown and out of the house and her own when her mother and I called it quits, etc, and her and I still talk still and keep in contact still down to this very same day still, etc, but her mother and I, not so much anymore, etc...

Anyway, that's all I can really think of for now...

And, I'm going to bed...

So, goodnight and...

God Bless!

 

[partinobodycular]

Now I mean no offense by this, but you really should learn how to get along with, and not "hate" most especially, people who are not like exactly you, or that have different views than you...

Normally you would be right, but this is a situation where innocent people are dying and we have an obligation to try to change that, especially when it costs us nothing but a few pointless guns that nobody needs anyway. We...our society, is killing innocent children.

We need to stop.

Sure guns aren't the crux of the problem, but what in God's name do we need them for? They're not protecting us, they're killing us.

 

[Neogaia777]

Normally you would be right, but this is a situation where innocent people are dying and we have an obligation to try to change that, especially when it costs us nothing but a few pointless guns that nobody needs anyway. We...our society, is killing innocent children.

We need to stop.

Sure guns aren't the crux of the problem, but what in God's name do we need them for? They're not protecting us, they're killing us.

The way I see it, the only thing we really disagree on, is how to correctly address the problem, and what the actual problem is or might be actually, etc...

And it is my opinion that if we don't address that, then not much at all is really going to ever change in America, etc...?

We'll just see these people resorting to other means in America, etc...

I mean, sure if we took everyone's guns away, in America, then we wouldn't "see the problem" in the meantime maybe, "maybe", etc, (because they could just start using other means, etc) and the real problem would still exist, etc, and I think we need to really be working on that, instead of punishing everyone else, like the rest of the 99.999% of the population that use and/or have them/own them responsibly, etc...

God Bless!