Christianity relevant in a secular society?

[JonMiller]

Are you sure that they are? Why do you think so?

BFA

Statistics and studies. I think I might have linked one in another thread.

JM

 

[sentipente]

OK. Why are more and more people perceiving themselves as secular?

That is a good thing. The future of the race requires us to move beyond the rabid partisanship promoted by religious thinking.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

Statistics and studies. I think I might have linked one in another thread.

If you were correct, would you conclude that this is a good or a bad thing?

BFA

 

[JonMiller]

That less people believe in God? I think it is a bad thing.

JM

 

[JonMiller]

This is some of the statistics I have referenced:

American Religious Identification Survey 2008

JM

 

[Byfaithalone1]

This is some of the statistics I have referenced:

American Religious Identification Survey 2008

JM

Is "being secular" always a bad thing?

BFA

 

[sentipente]

That less people believe in God? I think it is a bad thing.

JM

Are you suggesting that people can only be constructive citizens of the world if they believe in God?

 

[JonMiller]

Bfa1, can you try to not post nonsequitars?

I think that atheists/agnostics etc are just as constructive citizens as those who are Christians.

The issue is Christianities relevance in a secular society. Obviously more people are finding it not relevant.

It seems that everyone here is happy with that? If that is the case, why do you claim to be Christians? I wouldn't stay something that I didn't consider relevant.

JM

 

[sentipente]

Bfa1, can you try to not post nonsequitars?

I think that atheists/agnostics etc are just as constructive citizens as those who are Christians.

Then why is it a bad thing if more people do not believe in God, which means they do not believe in what is being taught about God.

 

[JonMiller]

As a Christian, I perceive it as a bad thing for Christianity to be less relevant.

Being a good citizen is what the state has to worry about, and what I have to worry about as a fellow citizen. However, being a good citizen is not the beginning or end of of what I desire for others.

Just like I think that empericism should be relevant, democracy should be relevant, so also I desire Christianity to be relevant.

To not desire your own systems of thought to be relevant is inherently inconsistent though.

And all sorts of contrary things are being taught about God, or gods, or some power, or what have you. Many of the people I know don't know what most Christians teach about the Christian God, they have misperceptions which are usually acquired from TV shows and a few fundamentalists in the newspapers.

Do you know any atheists Senti? I would say that most of my friends are atheist/agnostic or not practicing.

JM

 

[sentipente]

Jon, I spoke of citizens of the world not just citizens. Why do you ask whether I know any atheists? The first atheist I talked to was a classmate of mine in lawschool. That conversation made me realize that much of what I had heard about atheists was false.