Christianity and Capital Punishment

[Thedictator]

Christianity says we shouldn't be killing innocent people. Moses' Law says that there must be two or three eye witnesses to the crime and that the witnesses cannot be family members or others that would be biased.
It's just safer not to kill anyone but keep them safely under lock and key. There have been too many mistakes made already.

Jesus Christ says that we are to administer justice not injustice because were afraid to.

 

[Thedictator]

When I asked my dad who he was talking about, and he didn't want me to know, he'd say, "Bill Spivvens."

So like most of the so called we are killing innocent people it's just urban legend.

 

[narrowgateevangelist]

If you wrongfully put someone to death who did not deserve the death penalty, should you be put to death?

Yes, when a person advocates murder, in a group of twelve. Solipsistcly because of capricious prejudice. Capricious prejudice should have a terrestrial reckoning.

Trial by jury, historically has been observably effective. Marxists hate trial by jury. A traffic citation for 500$ doesn't warrant a jury. A government marriage/divorce proceeding doesn't warrant a trial by jury.

Marxists observably in the Americas, Asia, and Europe userp judicial authority. Hold esoteric trials then judgments. Send the most heavily armed men to execute the judgments. Then the NYT, WSJ, people's communist daily. Describe the heroism of SWAT, NKVD, KGB operatives in the execution of mother/fatherland pillage. For the direct benefit of the 1%, and their 10℅ enforcers.

 

[Hank77]

Please tell me how it is safer when a murderer get life, and then goes and kills other inmates who are not murderers, or escapes and goes on a killing spree. That happened in the Dallas Metroplex years ago 5 people who were convicted of murder escaped and people lost their life because of it. Oh but we don't care innocent people do we, we only care about the guilty because it makes us feel better because were so civilized.

Please tell how it make our society safer?

When I said safer I meant that mistakes have been made and innocent people killed so it is safer for the innocent if we just don't kill anyone.

 

[dreadnought]

So like most of the so called we are killing innocent people it's just urban legend.

We all know innocent people get executed. I don't memorize their names.

 

[Tree of Life]

By now it should be well-known that Pope Francis has revised the Catholic Catechism to say that capital punishment is inadmissible. What do you think about the relationship between Christianity and capital punishment? I want to hear from all Christians, and I also want to give Catholics a place to argue. The topic is two-fold: capital punishment in general, and also specifically within the Catholic Church.

Some relevant links:

• Pope Francis Changes Catechism... (NCR)
• History of Capital Punishment in Catholicism (Stack Exchange)
• Capital Punishment and Christianity (BBC)
• Arguments for and against (Public Discourse)
• By Man Shall His Blood Be Shed: A Catholic Defense of Capital Punishment (book)
• Capital Punishment and Roman Catholic Moral Tradition (book)
• Video interview on capital punishment with Catholic philosopher, Edward Feser (Daily Wire)

The Bible teaches that in cases of murder it is necessary to carry out capital punishment in order to establish the dignity of the image of God. Since the Bible teaches this, Christianity is certainly compatible with capital punishment.

 

[Hank77]

The Bible teaches that in cases of murder it is necessary to carry out capital punishment in order to establish the dignity of the image of God. Since the Bible teaches this, Christianity is certainly compatible with capital punishment.

The Bible teaches that in cases of murder it is necessary to carry out capital punishment in order to establish the dignity of the image of God. Since the Bible teaches this, Christianity is certainly compatible with capital punishment.

Really, then why did God save King David?

 

[Thedictator]

We all know innocent people get executed. I don't memorize their names.

I'm sorry but I have not heard of one in my life time, I have heard people say someone was innocent without any proof of the fact ( most of the time it is family or a Politician )

 

[PaulCyp1]

Actually the Pope didn't change anything. The Catechism formerly stated that capital punishment could not be administered "unless failure to do so would greatly endanger the life of another person". In the years since that statement was published, not a single case in the entire world has met that criterion. So the Pope simply removed a meaningless and unnecessary phrase, which didn't change the actual facts in any way. "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is still the commandment, and the right to kill in order to save your own life is still upheld.

 

[Thedictator]

When I said safer I meant that mistakes have been made and innocent people killed so it is safer for the innocent if we just don't kill anyone.

And yet it is not safer for most of the innocent people, except for say one in 10 billion or a century or 1/2 century.

 

[bcbsr]

"Thou Shalt Not Kill" is still the commandment, and the right to kill in order to save your own life is still upheld.

You're interpreting that commandment to mean that capital punishment is murder. Have you actually read the Law of Moses? There are over 40 times in the Law of Moses where the death penalty was commanded. So, obviously since God doesn't contradict Himself, your interpretation is wrong.

 

[Tutorman]

By now it should be well-known that Pope Francis has revised the Catholic Catechism to say that capital punishment is inadmissible. What do you think about the relationship between Christianity and capital punishment? I want to hear from all Christians, and I also want to give Catholics a place to argue. The topic is two-fold: capital punishment in general, and also specifically within the Catholic Church.

Some relevant links:

• Pope Francis Changes Catechism... (NCR)
• History of Capital Punishment in Catholicism (Stack Exchange)
• Capital Punishment and Christianity (BBC)
• Arguments for and against (Public Discourse)
• By Man Shall His Blood Be Shed: A Catholic Defense of Capital Punishment (book)
• Capital Punishment and Roman Catholic Moral Tradition (book)
• Video interview on capital punishment with Catholic philosopher, Edward Feser (Daily Wire)

I voted yes. Capital punishment has a place and it should be used more.

 

[friend of]

Well let's talk about death row then. Many of them are beyond recovery. They did it, it's done, stop appealing, pray to Jesus and die already.

Sorry for my insensitivity but how much does it strain the taxpayers to house them and why are we being saddled for it?

 

[PaulCyp1]

What's to discuss? The word of God on the subject always has been and still is Thou Shalt NOT Kill. That should pretty much settle it for anyone who calls themselves a Christian.

 

[RDKirk]

Christianity says we shouldn't be killing innocent people. Moses' Law says that there must be two or three eye witnesses to the crime and that the witnesses cannot be family members or others that would be biased.
It's just safer not to kill anyone but keep them safely under lock and key. There have been too many mistakes made already.

In other words, if we're going to apply the Mosaic Law, then apply the Mosaic Law fully and completely.

 

[RDKirk]

So like most of the so called we are killing innocent people it's just urban legend.

Usually nobody bothers continuing the investigation after the execution.

We do have more cases of persons on death row who have been exonerated after determining that they were innocent or their prosecutions were fraudulent. It was such a bad situation in Illinois that the then-governor suspended executions indefinitely.

 

[RDKirk]

The Bible teaches that in cases of murder it is necessary to carry out capital punishment in order to establish the dignity of the image of God. Since the Bible teaches this, Christianity is certainly compatible with capital punishment.

If you carry out the prosecution exactly as the Bible lays out--with at least two eye witnesses of the crime--maybe so.

 

[Cement]

The Bible states an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. You get the equal punishment to what you have done. However it also states a greater law, forgive and be forgiven. I however am against capital punishment not because its not what the criminals deserve but because about 4.1% of the time the person turns out to be innocent which roughly translates to 1 in 25 people.

https://www.newsweek.com/one-25-executed-us-innocent-study-claims-248889
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/death-penalty-study-4-percent-defendants-innocent

 

[RDKirk]

You're interpreting that commandment to mean that capital punishment is murder. Have you actually read the Law of Moses? There are over 40 times in the Law of Moses where the death penalty was commanded. So, obviously since God doesn't contradict Himself, your interpretation is wrong.

If the trial does not meet Mosaic Law standards, then it is murder.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

By now it should be well-known that Pope Francis has revised the Catholic Catechism to say that capital punishment is inadmissible. What do you think about the relationship between Christianity and capital punishment? I want to hear from all Christians, and I also want to give Catholics a place to argue. The topic is two-fold: capital punishment in general, and also specifically within the Catholic Church.

Some relevant links:

• Pope Francis Changes Catechism... (NCR)
• History of Capital Punishment in Catholicism (Stack Exchange)
• Capital Punishment and Christianity (BBC)
• Arguments for and against (Public Discourse)
• By Man Shall His Blood Be Shed: A Catholic Defense of Capital Punishment (book)
• Capital Punishment and Roman Catholic Moral Tradition (book)
• Video interview on capital punishment with Catholic philosopher, Edward Feser (Daily Wire)

Just as an aside, I find the struggles on finding a humane method of capital punishment to be ludicrous. It is very very simple to simply place the condemned in an airtight chamber and remove the regular air, replacing it with any benign gas without oxygen. The condemned simply go to sleep and never wake up.