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Christianity and Abortion Don't Mix

Discussion in 'Non-denominational' started by steadfastchristian, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. steadfastchristian

    steadfastchristian steadfastchristiandotcom

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    How can a Christian justify voting for a pro-abortion candidate? Polls show that Christians vote this way on a regular basis. After all, aren't we all held accountable for the choices we make in life?
     
  2. kiwimac

    kiwimac Priest, Liberal, Quaker, Theologian and TSSF Supporter

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    You are perhaps unaware that the Bible does not discuss abortion other than to mention it ONCE as something a fine is levied for?
     
  3. steadfastchristian

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    Exodus 20:13 Though shalt not murder, Proverbs 6:17 ...God hates the shedding of innocent blood, Psalm 139:13,14 ...you knit me together in my mother's womb. The list of verses goes on and on.
    Love the sinner, hate the sin. I have the up most compassion for anyone who decides to have an abortion. However, abortion is not the answer. There are many alternatives to choose from and thank God for organizations like Lifegaurd, National Right To LIfe, and others who provide support for those in need. Christians have the power due to shear numbers to peacefully overturn the barbaric practice of abortion by electing pro-life candidates.
    God help us make the right decision this fall. (All Scriptures taken from NIV)
     
  4. kiwimac

    kiwimac Priest, Liberal, Quaker, Theologian and TSSF Supporter

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    "Thou shalt not Murder" does not apply to children in utero and never did. The verse in Psalms is David speaking to God not the other way around and Jeremiah applies SOLELY to Jeremiah. Try again.
     
  5. SUNSTONE

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    Really?
    Punch a women in the stomach and kill her unborn baby and see what the courts say about that.
     
  6. kiwimac

    kiwimac Priest, Liberal, Quaker, Theologian and TSSF Supporter

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    You are confusing modern laws with biblical ones.
     
  7. SUNSTONE

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    Do you agree that if someone punches a pregnant women and kills the unborn baby, that they should be charged with murder?
     
  8. steadfastchristian

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    Scripture agrees: Exodus 21:22-25 (NIV)

    22 "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."

    Jesus toned down the severity of an eye for an eye but the main message is still relevant - harming the unborn is not acceptable.
     
  9. b.hopeful

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    aka...causing the fetus to die isn't murder...it's like loss of livestock. However, take the woman's life...it's murder.
     
  10. Sketcher

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    "They're not people. They're property."
     
  11. SUNSTONE

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    According to your own words it's like "livestock", but the bible says it's a crime punishable by death.
     
  12. kiwimac

    kiwimac Priest, Liberal, Quaker, Theologian and TSSF Supporter

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    Nope, look closely at the passage.
    The bolded part refers to injury to the WOMAN not the foetus in utero, it is perhaps unclear in English but not in the Hebrew.
     
  13. steadfastchristian

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    One thing is for sure, God created and loves all of us whether we're in the womb or writing on this forum. Bless His mighty name for this!
     
  14. SUNSTONE

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    That's not true, there is a reason why it says "pregnant women" and not just "women".

    And what about you, what do you say about this law, if a man hits and kills an unborn baby, he will be charged with murder.
    Do you agree with this law that we have today, or no?
    Or do you think that he has commited no crime, no sin, except if he hurts the mother???
     
  15. kiwimac

    kiwimac Priest, Liberal, Quaker, Theologian and TSSF Supporter

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    We are not talking about the modern day but about the Hebrew law given over 3000 years ago. In the Hebrew it is quite clear that the latter part of the passage applies solely to the woman and that is how the Rabbis and sages of the Hebrews also interpreted the passage BTW.
     
  16. Barefooter

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    There are numerous verses that show that even in the womb there is life. Taking a life is wrong. So abortion is sin. But it is just as wrong to kill abortion doctors. And it does no good to come down so hard on those who've had abortions. I like what was said earlier "hate the sin, but love the sinner".
     
  17. SUNSTONE

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    This thread was started because of the modern day law, so yes we are talking about modern day law.


    What ever reason you think that abortion should be legal you probably thought it was a good reason.
    But then I asked you that question...........a question you can't answer without making yourself look silly.

    And I'm calling you out on that rabbis herbrew intrepretation on "women" and "pregnant women".
    I think you completely made that up.
     
  18. kiwimac

    kiwimac Priest, Liberal, Quaker, Theologian and TSSF Supporter

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    Please note the following:

    Source
     
  19. dinonum

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    This is why I don't vote at all. Pro-abortion or pro-war? It all seems to be related IMO.
     
  20. SuzanneM52

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    Whether or not you are pro-life, get to the polls and let your voices be heard! :thumbsup:
     
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