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Yes, I realize now that you were speaking outside of your own area of expertise. But don't worry, I don't hold grudges when folks mis-speak and take us down tangential lines because they failed to inquire about another interlocutor's background sources or influences. More importantly, and to your credit, I know it's not due to any character flaw on your part, and I very much appreciate your strong moral inclinations and intuitions.It was I who brought Sartre into the conversation and this was because you've said a few times you are an existentialist, were saying that moral values are relativistic and so I thought you would appreciate and relate to the story of where Sartre moved away from that view towards seeing that moral values were absolute. I was obviously mistaken.
Rather than Sartre, I have Pascal and Kierkegaard in mind, along with any other even more contemporary philosophers who take umbrage with the typical, run-of-the-mill and status quo assumptions that are bandied about by today's popular voices on the fronts of Epistemology, Axiology and ... **cough** ... Metaphysics.
No, if you've taken any Ethics courses at all, and if you've handled any full-fledged academic surveys of Ethical and Moral frameworks, you'd know that your assertion about "no ifs, no buts" is tenuous at best. And if this is the view that UR takes, then it's a fault line running through its structure, and one that like a thread in an unraveling cloth, I'll just pull on when I see the obvious Axiological loose ends.The point I was trying to make is that to many, if not to you, the notion of eternal torment/torture (or even a momentary torment/torture) is an absolute moral evil. No ifs, no buts. Christian universalism takes this view and in addition argues that Scripture does not support the idea of ECT.
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