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I feel empathy for your situation.

however me personally, I don't like being burned with fire.

when I have a bon fire, I don't stick my hand in the fire, and roast it like a marshmellow.

that hurts!

imaging, a fire the consumes not only your flesh, and sensory cells, but a fire that can also sear your soul.

a fire that can kill your soul itself.

Matthew 10:28New King James Version (NKJV)
28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

New King James Version (NKJV)

See, I fear this supernatural fire, that is beyond time. The kind that engulphs Hell itself.

It is a kind of fire, that does not stop killing, and does not stop tormenting.

It was the kind of fire, that was created specifically for the evil one (satan).

I would definitely like non existance over Hell.

thats the easy way out.

I believe satan tries to downplay what hell actually is, so that people are not afraid of it.

the Bible says Hell is not a mcdonalds play area.

it's real, and it's painful.
 
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I feel sorry for the ones scared of fire

Heb 12:29 (YLT)
for also our God is a consuming fire.

1 John 4:18 (YLT)
fear is not in the love, but the perfect love doth cast out the fear, because the fear hath punishment, and he who is fearing hath not been made perfect in the love;
 
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I would argue that this is clearly anthropomorphic language, and should be read in the context of the understanding which the Hebrew writers had regarding their unique place within the salvation story of God. There is more to the meaning of "hate" in this passage than the unqualified rendering that you are imposing upon the text.

The fact is that God does hate evil (Isaiah 1:14; 61:8; Jeremiah 44:4; Revelation 2:6, etc.) and we are commended by the Scriptures to hate evil as well (Amos 5:15).

This doesn't have anything to do with this conversation whatsoever. Saying that God "hates" evil is certainly not the same as saying that God hates something which God has created. Evil, after all, has no existence, but is only known insofar as we are speaking about the diminution of the goodness of God. So it perfectly consistent to say that God hates evil, while still saying that God loves Satan (the creature). After all, Satan is still a part of the creation which God called "good". Nothing can change that, for God's justice will not allow God's good purposes in creation to come to naught.


So God is prone to changes in passions? Hmm..

Again, you must read passages regarding God's "feelings" and "emotions" through the lens of orthodoxy, specifically the doctrine of divine immutability. God is not a contingent being, prone to swings in mood or passions. Whatever "feelings" God may have are constant, unchanging, and ever consistent with God's eternal and unchanging nature. So if God has created Satan out of love (which cannot be denied), in this same love will Satan continue to persist in relation to God's regard of Satan as a creature. To say that God's "feelings" toward Satan, as a creature, have changed is to do severe justice to the orthodox understanding of divine immutability. So perhaps you are the one who should seriously reexamine your interpretive methodologies which lead you into such egregious theological errors.

You reach a faulty conclusion because you think that if God hates what He originally created as perfect and "very good" because it has become corrupted by sin, that God must therefore hate Himself.

Yes, for if God changes in regard to God's original purposes and motivations in creation, God must ultimately desire the opposite of what God desires--a paradox, as well as a form of self-loathing. Of course, such an understanding must also presume that God is prone to change, which is a complete denial of the immutability of God.

God does not hate Himself, He hates evil, which He is not and has not created.

This may be well and good, but that which God has created is not evil, including Satan. Satan (and others) may do evil things, but they are not in and of themselves evil. Therefore, they continue to be objects of God's eternal and unchanging love.


The free will tangent is yours, not mine. From my perspective, it has nothing to do with this conversation whatsoever, so is only a straw man.
 
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the bible uses plain narratives to hide spiritual truths. the flesh knows flesh and the spirit knows spirit. to understand the bible and God clearly we must be born from above and not corrupted by the evil elements of the world. the bible is FULL of symbols, allegories, types, antitypes, ectect and so we should not think of God as some cruel king as was the king of Babylon who tried to burn alive shadrach, mechik, and abednego...

Gal 4:21-26 (YLT)
Tell me, ye who are willing to be under law, the law do ye not hear? for it hath been written, that Abraham had two sons, one by the maid-servant, and one by the free-woman, but he who is of the maid-servant, according to flesh hath been, and he who is of the free-woman, through the promise; which things are allegorized, for these are the two covenants: one, indeed, from mount Sinai, to servitude bringing forth, which is Hagar; for this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and doth correspond to the Jerusalem that now is , and is in servitude with her children, and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,

1Cor 10:1-11 (YLT)
And I do not wish you to be ignorant, brethren, that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all to Moses were baptized in the cloud, and in the sea; and all the same spiritual food did eat, and all the same spiritual drink did drink, for they were drinking of a spiritual rock following them, and the rock was the Christ; but in the most of them God was not well pleased, for they were strewn in the wilderness, and those things became types of us, for our not passionately desiring evil things, as also these did desire. Neither become ye idolaters, as certain of them, as it hath been written, `The people sat down to eat and to drink, and stood up to play;' neither may we commit whoredom, as certain of them did commit whoredom, and there fell in one day twenty-three thousand; neither may we tempt the Christ, as also certain of them did tempt, and by the serpents did perish; neither murmur ye, as also some of them did murmur, and did perish by the destroyer. And all these things as types did happen to those persons, and they were written for our admonition, to whom the end of the ages did come,

1Pet 3:18-21 (YLT)
because also Christ once for sin did suffer--righteous for unrighteous--that he might lead us to God, having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit, in which also to the spirits in prison having gone he did preach, who sometime disbelieved, when once the long-suffering of God did wait, in days of Noah--an ark being preparing--in which few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water; also to which an antitype doth now save us--baptism, (not a putting away of the filth of flesh, but the question of a good conscience in regard to God,) through the rising again of Jesus Christ,

Rom 5:14 (YLT)
but the death did reign from Adam till Moses, even upon those not having sinned in the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a type of him who is coming.

Heb 8:5 (YLT)
who unto an example and shadow do serve of the heavenly things, as Moses hath been divinely warned, being about to construct the tabernacle, for `See (saith He) thou mayest make all things according to the pattern that was shewn to thee in the mount;') --

Heb 10:1 (YLT)
For the law having a shadow of the coming good things--not the very image of the matters, every year, by the same sacrifices that they offer continually, is never able to make perfect those coming near,

John 16:25 (YLT)
`These things in similitudes I have spoken to you, but there cometh an hour when no more in similitudes will I speak to you, but freely of the Father, will tell you.

John 10:6 (YLT)
This similitude spake Jesus to them, and they knew not what the things were that he was speaking to them;

Prov 26:7 (YLT)
Weak have been the two legs of the lame, And a parable in the mouth of fools.

Prov 26:9 (YLT)
A thorn hath gone up into the hand of a drunkard, And a parable in the mouth of fools.


but we are commanded not to follow after the similitude for God is the reality and he is to be worshiped in Spirit and in Truth.

Deut 4:15-20 (YLT)
and ye have been very watchful of your souls, for ye have not seen any similitude in the day of Jehovah's speaking unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire, lest ye do corruptly, and have made to you a graven image, a similitude of any figure, a form of male or female-- a form of any beast which is in the earth--a form of any winged bird which flieth in the heavens-- a form of any creeping thing on the ground--a form of any fish which is in the waters under the earth; `And lest thou lift up thine eyes towards the heavens, and hast seen the sun, and the moon, and the stars, all the host of the heavens, and thou hast been forced, and hast bowed thyself to them, and served them, which Jehovah thy God hath apportioned to all the peoples under the whole heavens. `And you hath Jehovah taken, and He is bringing you out from the iron furnace, from Egypt, to be to Him for a people--an inheritance, as at this day.

Luke 7:23 (YLT)
and happy is he whoever may not be stumbled in me.'

John 11:9-10 (YLT)
Jesus answered, `Are there not twelve hours in the day? if any one may walk in the day, he doth not stumble, because the light of this world he doth see; and if any one may walk in the night, he stumbleth, because the light is not in him.'

Jas 1:13-18 (YLT)
Let no one say, being tempted--`From God I am tempted,' for God is not tempted of evil, and Himself doth tempt no one, and each one is tempted, by his own desires being led away and enticed, afterward the desire having conceived, doth give birth to sin, and the sin having been perfected, doth bring forth death. Be not led astray, my brethren beloved; every good giving, and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the lights, with whom is no variation, or shadow of turning; having counselled, He did beget us with a word of truth, for our being a certain first-fruit of His creatures.

Rev 21:25-27 (YLT)
and its gates shall not at all be shut by day, for night shall not be there; and they shall bring the glory and the honour of the nations into it; and there may not at all enter into it any thing defiling and doing abomination, and a lie, but--those written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb.

Rev 22:2-5 (YLT)
in the midst of its broad place, and of the river on this side and on that, is a tree of life, yielding twelve fruits, in each several month rendering its fruits, and the leaves of the tree are for the service of the nations; and any curse there shall not be any more, and the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him, and they shall see His face, and His name is upon their foreheads, and night shall not be there, and they have no need of a lamp and light of a sun, because the Lord God doth give them light, and they shall reign--to the ages of the ages.

 
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I recall some people reported sighting ghosts in cemeteries and dilapidated abandoned mansions.
These things have no power over me. Nightmares happen while people sleep. Awaken and try to be more scientific.
 
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I do think that as a non American that there seem to be some very wicked so called christians in this country ,as your experience in a congregation is too common . And far too much of superstition and ignorance and fear .
As you love God and He is with you ,then you have everything -so many who go through outer habits and rituals don't have that . Maybe one day if you have time to
look ,or better still ,ask God when the time is right, to find you a good community .
God Bless ,FWR
 
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So you would not then believe in 'free will ' ,and that God while have made satan, left him to his own choice ,of being for or against God and His Creation ?
 
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So you would not then believe in 'free will ' ,and that God while have made satan, left him to his own choice ,of being for or against God and His Creation ?

I never said that, nor does it have anything to do with the topic at hand. Whether or not God loves Satan has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not Satan has free will. God's love of that which God has created is unconditional and immutable. Satan, or any other creature, rejecting God does not alter God's love for the creature. The most heinous of rebellion against God will not alter God's love for that creature, and it is in fact this concept upon which our hope of salvation is ultimately based.
 
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The Devil has tremendous pride and will not relent. It is his fault. The murderer beside Jesus represented the Devil, but would not humble himself and ask for salvation. The thief relented. Satan still wants to kill God, all the old ambitions are still alive. It is wrong to show unsanctified mercy. And pride and self pity are a dangerous mix.
 
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Jesus said there is one unforgiveable sin ,and that is to sin against the Holy Spirit .
There are some people ,whether you like it or not, who are irredeemable . Satan is number one .God tells us that to take the 'mark of the beast ' is to loose any hope of salvation .
I do not think it is wrong to feel sorrow for the devil's lost soul... but I think it would be wrong to love him.
Would agree ,as love is to identify with ,and we must not indentify with corruption, or
we will be corrupted too . Pity yes ,not love .
 
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First off, let me apologize for the tone of my post.

That said, I have always had a problem with the way Divine immutability has it's roots in pagan philosophy, so if anything, I am probably the one that the church fathers would call heretical. I apologize for arguing without thinking on this one. I still have a problem with the idea of loving Satan (we ARE called to emulate God's love)... but find nothing really wrong with what you've said.
 
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[QwouldE="Shadowprophet, post: 69439423, member: 373092"]I think I can explain, I fear the second death more the the torment of hell because, well, Because I have a health condition,, I stopped breathing in my sleep once. I believe I almost died. The experience Of what happened to me was very scary.. In my sleep, I realized that I was passing away.. The normal dreams melted away and there was this very real very awake feeling. And It was like my mind was being eroded away. Like my very self was being washed and faded into non existence, When I awoke, I was blue in the face, I could not see,, it took several minuets to catch my breath.. I say this as a Christian who loves God, I would rather know eternal torment then non existence.

To know anything, rather then nothing, and I believe this is true nature at work.. Gods gift of life is a gift even if one is in torment.. Because we continue to feel, we continue to think, we continue to know. This is why I believe the second death is a worse punishment then to exist in torment..[/QUOTE]
I would rather not exist than have eternal suffering. Hell the worst of anything experienced in this life. If I was not existing there would be no "I to hurt. " I " would be free but yes non existent. I know what u mean but that's my take of the second death. I see it as Gods mercy and compassion
 
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We shall see. I choose to hope in the irrepressible mercy and love of God which I believe, in the fullest display of divine justice, will ultimately reconcile all of creation to Godself.
 
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First off, let me apologize for the tone of my post.

No worries

I still have a problem with the idea of loving Satan (we ARE called to emulate God's love)... but find nothing really wrong with what you've said.

To clarify my thinking on this, I'm not exactly saying that we should love Satan. He is the enemy of our souls, so we are to resist the wiles of the devil with the help of the Spirit of God. However, on a very meta level, I simply believe that God loves Satan unconditionally, despite Satan's infinite rebellion against God.

And while I will choose to not try to peer to deeply into the matter, I fully believe that there is redemption available for Satan...not because of anything he has done, or that we can do on his behalf; but like us, precisely because of the unlimited and unfathomable mercy and love of God. If I am to pit God's love against the greatest depths of evil, the battle is already over, as the greatest of evils is the smallest of things compared to the enormity of God's everlasting love.
 
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The crux,

Our duality. Fear John 5:39 or Love John 5:40 .

The challenge . "Who" taught us fear? For me, it was my parents, church and friends over 45 years of reaffirming fear combined to OT teachings by ??? people. In my mind these are good people . However, maybe these terms will clarify ... Sincerely ignorant.

These are people considered "good" and/or loved by me (like above parents) do not know they can not guide Spirit and out of misconstrued love teach fear. Noxots posted scripture of 1 John 4:18 was the doorway for me, that my church, parents and friends can not teach perfect love in their sincere ignorance. A suggestion for the OP author (under assumption you have been justified/baptized in the Holy-Spirit) stop listening to people and applying what is said to yourself.
Soak your mind in 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 for a time/season until you see God under that light/LIGHT and when your mind starts believing those precious words inspired by God know they are placed there under Proverbs 3:5. One will find their truth when we reason with God . When we apply mens teachings and/or accusations (Spiritual) to the heart/mind of fear we have confusion of sincere ignorance. That is in no way a bad thing. Fear is a motivator yet it is not where the Spirit lives.
Thanks for the self preaching.
 
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A christian must know that He is on His journey to somewhere I.e on a journey to eternity, but many christian refused to understand that unless they meet my standard they can not be permitted to enter the paradise where sorrow and troubles of the world ended.
My coming is at the door and I will come any moment from now, never listen to any prophecy that says I will come next year, next month, after the celebration of Israelite, christian I will come at any time that the father decided, the father may say today, tomorrow, next minute, christian just be prepared and be ready , and I will tell you what you need to know now and check your life now because if you don't have this you can not go with me.
Many has been called but just few will be chosen for this are the few who obey my words and do not deny my name in the adulterous and sinful generation, they follow my word and obey my instructions, they are obedient to the voice of the spirit and never argue with my truth “Just only few will be chosen among the sons of men”.

1 .GENUINE SALVATION : How do you know that you are saved ? Have you fall before the Cavalry and drop every load of sin and affairs of the world ? Christian never think that I can be deceived as you are deceiving many people that you are saved. What matter now is that are you born of corruptible seed or incorruptible seed ? Because you are born of corruptible seed this is why the salvation you claim yield fruit unto unrighteousness and not unto righteousness and holiness . The day you are genuinely born again that is the day you enter the agreement of sonship with me, and a son must be obedient to his father so that he may live long and abide with Him forever. Great multitude of people that can not be number by flesh that thought they are saved are not truly saved, however for this reason just few will be chosen, and this are the few that have genuine first experience which is called “SALVATION”.

2. GENUINE SANCTIFICATION: For this purpose just few will be chosen, for I look into my church and see different doctrine that is set up by pastors , and many of this teaching are actually against my standard on sanctification , for this teacher shall not escape my judgment unless they repent now and teach my word and not their own standard.
There are many christian who do not have genuine sanctification, they proclaim they are sanctified but still battle with anger, they proclaim they are sanctified but still battle with lust of the eyes, of the flesh and pride of life. They proclaim they are sanctified but still battle with love of money, they proclaim they are sanctified but still battle with hatred, bitterness of the heart, evil imagination, evil thought, evil desire, envy , jealousy, unforgiveness, malice , fighting, false accuser , false witness, lying, gossiping, Their heart is divided and not stable in my service, I tell you that this are not the few.
For my word said “ For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.” 1 thess 4:3-7.
Sanctification is total purging of the heart from all filthiness of the flesh, heart, and the world, for this make you to be totally consecrated for me even for me only for my glory will I not share with anyone, any church that is against this standard is a satanic church assign to deceive the christian in this end time. This can be attain through my grace, but you have to pray for it, for everyone that asked received, unto everyone that knocked is opened , and unto everyone that searched found. For this purpose only few will be chosen for many are not sanctified.

3. GENUINE HOLY GHOST BAPTISM : many in the church have no relationship with the holy ghost, they only hear about him, talks about him but do not bothered to enter relationship with the holy ghost even with the spirit of truth. Also there are many in the church who are possessed with the spirit of divination, they speak in tongues but their tongues is not from the holy ghost, they perform miracles but not through the power of the Holy Ghost , upon them shall be fulfilled my word that says “”Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity Matthew 7:22-23”” for this purpose few will be chosen because many that claim to have been baptized in the Holy Ghost are not truly baptized.

4. FERVENT EVANGELISM : The law of any nations which is against evangelism can not be an excuse when i shall come. Many has neglected evangelism, they don't win souls to my kingdom again, they are so fearful and afraid of men, government, and death, for he that is ASHAMED and AFRAID of preaching my word the same will I be Ashamed to confess his name before my father and the Holy angels. Even my servant today's do not organized crusade for the purpose of soul winning but because of money, they have their own reward for they shall receive greater condemnation. Those who have neglected evangelism and do not rescue the perishing and care for the dying, even I the Lord will not confess them to be my disciple.
For this purpose only few will be chosen.

5. FERVENT QUIET TIME : It is so sad that many Christian doesn't know that quiet time is important in their life. This is the time you will pray, and study my word to examine your life, this is the time you set yourself apart for me and have communion with me, this is the time you intercede for my church and the world, this is the time you patiently wait to get important instructions from me to pass it across to the world, I so much cherish it, but many don't have time for this , it is sad that for this purpose just few will be chosen.

6. CHARITY TO THE POOR, WIDOW, AND ORPHANS: My word says “ Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy” and my word also said “ Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
for this many of my children are guilty and many shall be offended in me but woe unto such that is offended in me. Even for this purpose few will be chosen.

7. SUPPORTER OF FALSE PROPHETS AND SATANIC CHURCH ARE NOT IN THE NUMBER : Oh what a great day that I will reward the faithful, oh what a great and fearful day that the supporters of works of the devil, supporter of assignments of the devil against my children shall lament. Those that give out their money to satanic church, and spread their message, their materials for them to get popular, and for the false prophets to succeed In their mission to harvest and win souls for The prince of the world, they which does such thing are not among the few that are chosen, for this purpose I have just few that would be saved.

8. PREACHER THAT PREACH THEIR OWN DAMNATION ARE NOT IN THE NUMBER: This are the preachers that preach about hell but do not tend to escape hell, they preached about heaven but do not strive to enter , they preach about sanctification but are not sanctified , they have not totally surrender their life to me but enforce others to do so, they are so many, which is why many preacher who people recommended will be disappointed at my coming. They look humble but not to my word, they have not crucify self-will and self-pleasing. For this purpose just only few will be saved.

9. THOSE WHO HAVE IDOLS IN THEIR LIFE ARE NOT IN THE NUMBER: There are many Christian who don't know that they can not be permitted in my kingdom because they are idolater. They cherish their education than me, they cherish their business, work , and their trade than me, they love their Children than me , they love their wife and husband than me, they depend on them for happiness and joy instead on me, their heart is totally on them and half their heart is on me and my word, they hid this in their heart, they think of this in their heart, but my word they hid not in their heart so that they may obey them. They are so caring for their house than me, they love money than me, they can do anything because of money, but they cannot do everything because of the gospel . Whatever that have most of your heart, whatever that you cherish most is your idol. For this purpose only few will be saved.

10. IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE NUMBER YOU MUST HAVE THE NINE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT : which is written in Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
For the lack of this, only few will be chosen.

11. IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE NUMBER SPEAK EVIL OF NO MAN : because of what you saw about your fellow man, make sure is not harmful, poisonous , gossiping, slanderous, condemnation ,curse , etc make sure you speak evil of no man, whatever you will not want the person you are talking about to hear, whatever you can not speak in the front of the person you are talking about avoid it, and avoid every gathering that gossip and speak evil of their fellow men. For those who do such things are not Among the few that will be saved. For no one will speak wickedly and ever escape punishment.

12. RESTITUTION MUST NOT BE IGNORED: Those you have curse bless them, confess every lies and deceit, restored stolen things, pay every debt, fulfil every vow, not evil vow but Godly vow, keep no malice with anybody , forgive everyone that trespass against you, have no evil thoughts and desire against any one that persecute you and speak evil of you. For this purpose just few will be saved.

13. YOU MUST HAVE FAITH IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE NUMBER : Many Christian complain a lot, they don't have faith in me, even in my name, they easily doubt my word and do not have confidence in my power ,WORRY FOR NOTHING, FEAR FOR NOTHING, COMPLAIN FOR NOTHING. For this purpose only few will be saved.

14. AVOID WORLDLY FASHION IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE NUMBER : Let your dressing preach gospel to others, do not put on clothes that will stare others to lust, avoid indecent clothes that would expose your body, avoid harlot materials , avoid painting of your face for you are already created well, avoid decorating yourself with jewelry, attachment, and ungodly haircut, avoid changing the color of your eyes, hair, body , for it is a great dishonor to me, avoid clothes that revealed your underwear, don't tattoo your body , avoid going to clubs, worldly parties, avoid singing of songs, watching of films, TV program which does not bring glory to me but to the prince of the world. Avoid fornication (sex before marriage), Adultery , sexual appeal attire, avoid divorce, avoid worldly dance, watching pornography, masturbation. For this purpose just few will be chosen.

15. AVOID COSTLY APPAREL : my work is suffering because there is no one to support my servant that is doing my will, many spend their money on costly apparel, costly phone, costly car, costly shoe, costly things , while they leave my work to suffer, they have their reward. For this purpose just few will be saved .

16. HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF: don't be self dependable, trust in my strength and power, avoid pride, praising of yourself and giving glory to yourself unto me alone belong glory, honor, adoration . Avoid self exaltation, self approved , self seeking. For this purpose just few will be chosen.

17. NEVER TURN BACK FROM THE WAY OF HOLINESS: Many are tired of living a holy life, they don't read their bible again, they don't pray again, they don't do evangelism again, they don't preach the truth again, they are tired of waiting for my coming and they have gone back to the world, some of them are now lukewarm christian, they have backslidden from faith, some went back to the world because of persecution, affliction , hardship, trials, but I am calling you to come back to me. Even for this purpose only few will be saved.

18. ONLY THE HEARER AND DOER OF MY WORD WILL BE IN THE NUMBER : Many has been hearing my word but yet they remain unsaved, they hear about holiness but do not work in holiness, they hear about righteousness but do not live a righteous life , they hear about restitution but do not attempt to make restitution, they hear about evangelism but do not evangelized, they hear about charity but do not do charity, they hear about total consecration but never attempt to consecrate their heart and life to me, they have the name of christian but are not true christian, they obey some part of my word and disobey others , they select the word they will obey and avoided the strict one . For this purpose only few will be chosen.

19. NEVER DISOBEY ANY ASSIGNMENTS I GIVE YOU : I have called so many people but they have rejected my call upon their life's , I send so many Christian to go and warn a sinner and backslider but they would not go, when I tell them to do something but they would not obey, when I showed them something to tell people they will not do so, this is sad that they do not honor me even my word. For this purpose just few will be saved.

20. AVOID PROMISE AND FAIL : for my word said “”But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.” Matthew 5:37.
This is a very common thing that will disqualified many, they will promise to help someone but they will disappointed the person, they will promise to pray for someone but would not do that, they will promise people but they will fail them, they are unfaithful to the word of their mouth, the people and to me. For this purpose just few will be chosen.

Seek me and you shall know more of the reason why only few will be chosen, they are written in my word, but unto this that I revealed unto you “”Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

For more information contact: The overcomers bride of Christ worldwide ministry.
Ogc.group@yahoo.com or +2347038404005.
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We shall see. I choose to hope in the irrepressible mercy and love of God which I believe, in the fullest display of divine justice, will ultimately reconcile all of creation to Godself.
To Godself ? No just in the same way a seed can rot so that it no longer exists to produce any form of life so a soul can rot and be no longer what God created . But then I do believe we existed before and have chosen to deliberately and categorically deny God's existence and His role in our creation ,attributing His work to Satan .
 
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Yes it is wrong. Scripture teaches to LOVE righteousness and to hate evil.

You are taught to love your neighbor as yourself. You are taught by scripture to forgive when you are ASKED for forgiveness. What is wrong in your thinking is that you are to just willy nilly forgive people who have not asked to be forgiven.

The secularization of these principles has led to an erroneous way of thinking.

"The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; Pride and arrogance and the evil way And the perverted mouth, I hate.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.


Until you learn to absolutely HATE sin. You will not being to see real change. Hating sin STARTS with hating the sin YOU commit. And NOT hating the SINNER. We are called to be like Messiah to emulate him. He repeatedly showed love, mercy and tenderness towards sinners. Where he was rigid, accusatory and bluntly honest was towards the religious establishment who were unforgiving, unmerciful and haughty. He railed against the Pharisee who strove to meet every objective of the letter of the law and completely missed the heart of the law in which is found MERCY. Because of this error they became judgemental and unforgiving while they themselves fell short yet hid that and were unmerciful towards the people.

So as a follower we are to forgive those sin against us and particularly so when we are asked to forgive.

Lucifier is a liar, theif and a killer. He comes to destroy. His objective is YOUR destruction. He wants to kill you, your family and steal everything from you. He wants to choke out the kingdom from yoru life to cause you to "give up"

Not one of us would feel sorry for the killer who is point a gun at your head fully intent on spraying your brains on the wall behind you. This is Satan. He wants to kill and destroy he is utterly unrepentant and is only seeking your destruction. He delights in evil.

You can not stand in the middle. Scripture tells us we are to DELIGHT in righteousness and to HATE evil.
 
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