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Christian outreach to Satanists.....

DennisTate

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I realize that this is an extremely dangerous type of ministry to begin but I do think that it is time for a massive awakening by Satanists, who will come to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus with their whole heart.

The testimony of Ms. Benita Morrisette is certainly interesting and actually fits with Matthew chapter 4.


Satanism Ending

 
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I am a Messianic Gentile who began to ask certain questions about forty years ago:

Yom Kippur/The Rapture connection?!

"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10RSV)

In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!


Matthew 12)
"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
 
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I think that the poll question here in this other discussion is very important for this type of ministry:

Should Christians fight against fallen angels.... not each other?

(Pastor Rick Joyner, The Final Quest):



Can demons be given HOPE?
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  1. No... the demons have zero hope!
    11 vote(s)
    73.3%
  2. *
    Yes..... Elijah must "restore all things"
    1 vote(s)
    6.7%

  3. I am not sure but I will research this further.
    3 vote(s)
    20.0%
 
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*squirms with vicarious embarrassment*

People, if you want to testify to actual Satanists, don't start out by peddling the bloodthirsty [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]-and-bull stories that they'll immediately identify as the kind of made-up nonsense Christians tell each other in order to bolster their own fears and faith (and maybe titillate themselves).

Do the legwork. Find out what they actually believe and what they are like. If you go to them with the content of this video as your reference point, you'll meet nothing but shut doors, and rightly so.

It's the equivalent of going to a Wiccan and claiming that their religion is actually devil worship culminating in human sacrifice.

Or - to make it more relatable to those who cannot put themselves in anybody else's shoes, and therefore DO assume that anything apart from Christianity as actually demon worship - the equivalent of ancient Romans claiming that Christianity was a cannibalistic sex cult, drinking blood and eating flesh while addressing each other as "brothers and sisters", talking about love all the time.
 
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They dont know they worship a machine.
At least my voices indicate that as they have real people stalking and try to get me to sell my soul. They are weak cowards. I do not forgive murderers.
 
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They dont know they worship a machine.
At least my voices indicate [emphasis mine] that as they have real people stalking and try to get me to sell my soul. They are weak cowards. I do not forgive murderers.
Um.
Get help.

I'm serious, what you are describing here are *extremely* common symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia: voices and Satanic conspirators out to get you included. This could be a genuine mental health crisis, and the sooner you get that checked out, the better your chances of recovery.
 
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Well said Jane the Bane!

The Satanists that I debated with about fourteen years ago were astonishingly well read and informed.

I even plan to throw a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems into the mix because I am a Christian who happens to take climate change rather seriously but.......
i have been promoting an alternative theory on climate stabilization since 2007 that
fits with Isaiah chapter 35.


My two somewhat humorous submissions for $25 million Virgin Earth Challenge.
 
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They dont know they worship a machine.
At least my voices indicate that as they have real people stalking and try to get me to sell my soul. They are weak cowards. I do not forgive murderers.

But we all have to come to the place where we realize that
you and I really cannot judge others......
and it is not our job anyway.

Hebrews 9:27

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"

John 5:22

"For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:"

John 16:25

"These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father."


Both Christians as well as pagans and members of all religions are facing
an extremely important question as increasing medical technology brings a higher and higher percentage of people back from a brush with death.


The being of light of NDE fame, G-d or Satan?
 
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Your advice could be good Jane but......
there is a real possibility that the original Lucifer / Satan was eventually forced to create a machine to continue with the part of the Stanley Milgram type experiment that he had initiated..........
as he personally moved on to new levels.

Near-Death Experiences of Children



Milgram experiment - Wikipedia
 
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There is no difference in witnessing to satanist or to atheists.
One must find out what they believe before talking to them about what you believe.

No one likes an arogant knowall who doesn't realy know what you believe, telling you what you believe and why its wrong.

Listen to what they tell you and earn the right to debate beliefs with them.
 
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Yes... a significant percentage of actual Satanists who can control an out of the body
experience...... go online.... .claiming to be Atheists...... but they actually have some of the abilities that former Satanist John Ramirez speaks about.


I believe that the Ancient of Days the Father views Lucifer Satan, Azazel Satan and Lilith Satan.... much as a loving father in our time period may view red blooded teenagers..... who just make some serious mistakes.... .but they will learn.

Is God infinitely ancient?
 
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I get the impression that Mr. John Ramirez is exceptionally truthful............
partly due to his having an astonishingly low level of fear.

Actually...... Satan has been training his own people to become some of the most fearless Christian evangelists who have ever walked the earth...............

The message from Bluerose31 is true in my opinion....... and I have some ideas on why!

Satanism Ending


 
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Theres tech that can regenerate and keep you living over 300 years.
 
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There's a difference between satanists of the historical variety and of the lavey satanism and there are also discordian satanists that may incorporate misconceptions into their beliefs just for kicks.
 
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They dont know they worship a machine.
At least my voices indicate that as they have real people stalking and try to get me to sell my soul. They are weak cowards. I do not forgive murderers.
Get help, bud...........
 
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Contemporary Satanism of the LaVeyan type is not a theistic (or whatever corresponding term you might find for it) religion. It's closer to Ayn Rand's "Objectivism" than to the stereotype you are familiar with. They don't believe in a literal devil OR god, instead perceiving them as symbolic myths (and embracing the imagery of a rebellious misfit who opposes any kind of tyranny). So yes, they are atheists (of a kind), not actual devil-worshippers. Just don't lump all other atheists in with them, or else you'd have to do the same with all theists when we talk about ACTUAL theistic Satanists.
They are basically dog-eat-dog individualists, social darwinists who embrace egotism as a virtue.

There are some groups affiliated with the "Left Hand Path" (a term derived from Hindu terminology, where it denotes religious traditions that seek enlightenment by breaking taboos instead of upholding them) that actually *DO* believe in the supernatural, but even these rarely resemble the stereotypes you know from horror films and evangelical propaganda. They often believe in a kind of Jungian "shadow work", where you have to confront your repressed, darker aspects in order to keep them from becoming monstrous, and instead becoming a more actualized person by moving beyond that. In their opinion, people who just try to move towards the light just cast increasingly darker shadows, repressing aspects of themselves that do not fit into the externalized image of virtue and morality - and these shadows fester and grow monstrous, often even while the believers are still convinced they are champions of good. (see: the Crusades, the Inquisition, even the Nazis).
 
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It seems to me that you need to show the superiority of Christian philosophy to Satanist philosophy. For example, Satanists would not agree with the idea of "turning the other cheek". I think that would be true of both the atheistic Satanists and the theistic Satanists. So if you could show that "turning the other cheek" makes sense, then you would have some leverage. That is just a single example.
 
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I've been more acquainted with LHP Satanists, and the discordians who were mocking satanism as satanists.
 
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Theres tech that can regenerate and keep you living over 300 years.

Yes....... and a pretty powerful case can be presented that some of the astonishing technology that the USA and Russia have actually may have came from contact with aliens....... and those aliens either are..... or perhaps are in contact with some pretty high level fallen angels or fallen Watchers, (sons of G-d).
 
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True..... but it is also important to show Satanists and people of all other religions that
the laws of Christianity can be adapted to extreme situations.

Sabbath observance under extreme conditions....


 
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