[SIZE=-1]Sodom and Gommorrah wasn't destroyed for homosexuality. There is a list of reasons why it was destroyed (which I notice, you conveniently ignored). It was destroyed for rape and inhospitality, as well as idolatry.
Detestable things was the attempted rape of Lot and the angels, but for the most it was greed and selfish pleasure. Consenting homosexuality was never a part of it.
Hence why sodomy isn't homosexuality. We've simply perverted the word much like every other English word.[/SIZE]
This is the standard homosexual cop-out posted on every homosexual site on the 'net. Evidently the idea is if something is repeated often enough then it must be true.
If 'sodomy" does not mean "homosexuality" then the Jewish scholars have had it wrong for 3200 years +/-.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jud 1:7 [size=+1]ως 5613 ADV σοδομα 4670 N-NPN και 2532 CONJ γομορρα 1116 N-NSF και 2532 CONJ αι 3588 T-NPF περι 4012 PREP αυτας 846 P-APF πολεις 4172 N-NPF τον 3588 T-ASM ομοιον 3664 A-ASM τουτοις 5125 D-DPM τροπον 5158 N-ASM εκπορνευσασαι 1608 V-AAP-NPF και 2532 CONJ απελθουσαι 565 V-2AAP-NPF οπισω 3694 ADV σαρκος 4561 N-GSF ετερας 2087 A-GSF προκεινται4295 V-PNI-3P δειγμα1164 N-ASN πυρος4442 N-GSN αιωνιου166 A-GSN δικην1349 N-ASF υπεχουσαι5254 V-PAP-NPF [/size]
The verbs translated
giving themselves over to fornication i.e.
[size=+1]εκπορνευσασαι[/size] and
going after, i.e.
[size=+1]απελθουσαι[/size] are AAP and 2AAP, respectively, aorist, active, participle, an action began in the past continuing into the future. The perverts of Sodom were prevented from completing any action against the angels, by blindness, and certainly did not do anything with any flesh afterward.
Talmud -- Sanhedrin 54a
MISHNAH. HE WHO COMMITS SODOMY WITH A MALE OR A BEAST, AND A WOMAN THAT COMMITS BESTIALITY ARE STONED. . . . Our Rabbis taught:
If a man lieth also with mankind, as the lyings of a woman,29 both of them have committed on abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them,]. . . [Note: All upper case appears in the original]
Sanhedrin 54b
This teaches the punishment: whence do we derive the formal prohibition? From the verse,
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.[sup]1[/sup] . . . whence do we know a formal prohibition for the person who permits himself thus to be abused?
Scripture saith: There shall be no sodomite of the sons of Israel:[sup]2[sup] and it is further said, . . .
Now, he who [actively] commits pederasty, and also [passively] permits himself to be thus abused R. Abbahu said: On R. Ishmael's view,
he is liable to two penalties, one [for the injunction] derived from thou shalt not lie with mankind, and the other for [violating the prohibition,] There shall not be a Sodomite of the sons of Israel. . . .
for there shall be no Sodomite applies to sodomy with mankind. [sup]13[/sup] . . .
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Jewish Encyclopedia - Dog
The shamelessness of the dog in regard to sexual life gave rise to the name ("dog") for the class of priests in the service of Astarte who
practised sodomy ("kedeshim," called also by the Greeks κυναίδοι, Deut. xxiii. 19 [A. V. 18]; compare ib. 18 [17] and Rev. xxii. 15; see Driver ad loc.), . . .(see "C. I. S." i., No. 86).
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Jewish Encyclopedia - Chastity
(e)
The unnatural crimes against chastity, sodomy and pederasty, prevalent in heathendom, were
strictly prohibited (Lev. xviii. 22, 23; xx. 13, 15, 16; Deut. xxvii. 21).
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Jewish Encyclopedia - DIDACHE -
Dependence upon Jewish Custom.
2: "Thou shalt not commit adultery" (Ex. xx. 14). (This includes: "
Thou shalt not commit sodomy nor fornication.") "Thou shalt not steal" (Ex. xx. 15). . . .
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=341&letter=D
Jewish Encyclopedia - Crime
In three cases
the person on the point of committing a crime may be killed: where he pursues a neighbor in order to kill him;
where he pursues a male to commit sodomy;
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Jewish Encyclopedia - The 613 Commandments,: 3347-53.
Adultery,
sodomy, etc. Lev. Xviii. 7, 14, 20, 22, 23.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=689&letter=C
"
We Can't Legitimate Homosexuality Halakhically" (
USCJ Review, Spring 2004): Joel Roth
The two verses in the book of (Leviticus (18:22 and 20:13) which deal with homosexuality are really quite clear, despite the efforts of some to call their clarity into question. (Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 absolutely forbid homosexual intercourse between males. The Rabbis, in the Sifra (Aharei Mot 9:8), also understand the Torah to forbid lesbianism. The Torahs prohibitions, let it be clear, are against actions, like male homosexual intercourse, not against fantasies or attractions.
The Torah and the Rabbis do not distinguish between types of homosexuals in any way... The Rabbis were well able to conceive of monogamous and loving relationships between members of the same sex, and I quote in my paper the texts that prove this beyond reasonable question. But their words cannot possibly be read to imply that such monogamous or loving gay relationships are in a different halakhic [Jewish legal] category than any other relationships between members of the same sex. The prohibition is clear and total.
http://www.uscj.org/POINTRoth6331.html
Naomi Grossman, freelance journalist, states in her April 2001 article in
Moment Magazine, "
The Gay Orthodox Undergound":
"The Torah strictly forbids homosexual sex, and rabbis have consistently upheld that prohibition through the ages... The prohibition against homosexual sex comes from Leviticus: 'Do not lie with a male as one lies with a woman; it is an abhorrence' (18:22). In biblical times, the punishment for violating that code was clear. 'If a man lies with a male as one lies with a woman, the two of them have done an abhorrent thing; they shall be put to death - their bloodguilt is upon them' (Leviticus 20:13). The Talmud extends the prohibition to lesbian sex [Hilchot Issurei Bi'ah 21:8]."
Official Orthodoxy makes no distinction between the sex act, which the Torah flatly prohibits, and homosexuality as a sexual identity. "Homosexuality is not a state of being in traditional Judaism; it's an act," Freundel says. "Desires are
not relevant."
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