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or move to another country where rights are respected

Unless you are forcibly compelled to participate here, no rules and no secrecy, no matter how severe, can possibly deny anyone "human rights."

Don't you think it trivializes REAL human rights violations when you lump Web-board management practices into the same category?
 
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Unless you are forcibly compelled to participate here, no rules and no secrecy, no matter how severe, can possibly deny anyone "human rights."

Don't you think it trivializes REAL human rights violations when you lump Web-board management practices into the same category?

:thumbsup: Yeah, tell that to the folks who are actually having their human rights denied. I am sure they could use the laugh.

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Create a new policy for staff. Staff serve at my pleasure, they will no longer be elected or subject to member recall.

Great, so the only real positive and good change from 7/7 is being taken back.

Hear me carefully. There will be no mod accountablility of unbiasedness unless staff have to answer to the people for their actions.

And who the hell are you? Where's Erwin, and why isn't he telling us this?
 
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Great, so the only real positive and good change from 7/7 is being taken back.

Hear me carefully. There will be no mod accountablility of unbiasedness unless staff have to answer to the people for their actions.

And who the hell are you? Where's Erwin, and why isn't he telling us this?

Erwin's not in charge anymore. He sold the site to Lee.
 
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And who the hell are you? Where's Erwin, and why isn't he telling us this?

Wow, someone more out of the loop than I! :wave:

Erwin has left the building -- weeks ago. Handed the place over to Lee.
 
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Great, so the only real positive and good change from 7/7 is being taken back.

Hear me carefully. There will be no mod accountablility of unbiasedness unless staff have to answer to the people for their actions.

And who the hell are you? Where's Erwin, and why isn't he telling us this?


Lee is the new owner of the site... Erwin sold the forum to him... Lee is the new head honcho...:thumbsup:

:groupray: :groupray: :groupray: For CF !!!

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Two issues keep coming up: who wields the power here at CF, and who should feel welcome on this WEB site.

Ultimate power is still wielded by users, who can choose to go anywhere they want on the WEB. Every WEB master knows that, and tries to pitch their site to attract the most number of users possible. It takes only three things to make a successful WEB site- numbers, numbers, numbers.

So here at Christian Forums, Lee has already indicated that the core values relate to Christianity. I don't know how many of the administrators, etc. are Bible-believing Christians, but based on the fact that Lee attends a Baptist church, I would assume that his core values are those followed by most Christians. If that is the case, he will first consult with advisors who subscribe to similar values, and make sure that the foundation of Christian Forums is consistent with those values. He seems to be smart enough to realize that the collective wisdom of several minds is better than just one- so I think we'll see leadership, but not dictatorship.

From a business point of view, I think acquiring this site was a very smart thing to do because I think there is a huge audience out there who are looking for a forum site on the world-wide WEB that does in fact have a solid foundation based on Christian values. Amazingly, no such forum exists yet, despite the massive potential user-base.

Focus on the Family is hugely successful, not because it tries to appeal to everyone, or sugar-coat Biblical truths, but because it has a solid foundation based on the Bible and Christian principles. Billy Graham's ministry is the same. However, both James Dobson and Billy Graham emulate Christ when He preached in the synagogues in Galilee:

Luke 4:

14Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside. 15He taught in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.

Most of the people praised Jesus because He presented his message with truth and conviction- but also with kindness and love.

If Christian Forums does the same, it will be richly blessed by God and be wildly successful.
 
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Just wonderin'....is there anyplace where an official announcement was made about the hiding of all reports and staff forums (besides All Staff CR)?

G-d bless,
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I believe it was in the OP of this thread.
 
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I believe it was in the OP of this thread.
Oh, right. I thought they would make an announcement everytime something happened. I looked at the OP as "up for debate, here is what I'm planning on".

G-d bless,
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Oh, right. I thought they would make an announcement everytime something happened. I looked at the OP as "up for debate, here is what I'm planning on".

G-d bless,
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I see what you mean.

Yeah, things have been moving so fast that I think communication has gotten a bit behind.
 
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Servant222 said:
a website that does in fact have a solid foundation based on Christian values

LOLOL! :wave::sigh:

St Paul told us the foundation of christian values is to depart from sin... and we all know [tautologously and from observation ] that sinner 'christians' cannot do that ... so we have sinners squabbling over who is more christian than anyone else when the scripture says none of them are in the mouth of Jesus, St Paul, and the other saints

Pretty amusing then, until they gave these sinners power to delete whatever they don't want to hear ... and the truth gets trampled to death.... the meek who will inherit the earth are unheard on this so-called 'christian 'site ...

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

etc ...
 
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Unless you are forcibly compelled to participate here, no rules and no secrecy, no matter how severe, can possibly deny anyone "human rights."

Don't you think it trivializes REAL human rights violations when you lump Web-board management practices into the same category?

My friend,
come out of the cupboard and open the eyes to the blinding light of reality ...

people's right to freedom of speech is being abused every single day here , everyone I know here knows this and sees it as wrong, a violation of human rights

also there is a much deeper evil here which no-one can stop, it is the use of this site as a platform for apostate religion ... christianity for instance is divided right down to individual differences in belief

... whereas the bible says that all who follow Jesus will be led by God Himself into one truth (John 16:13) [BEFORE death!] ... the division shows how few real christians there are and this place no exception .

Thus consider how sensible it is to put sinners who do not have all truth of God in charge of saying who is a christian and who is not, who can speak here, who there, and what they can or can't say [no matter how politely]

Jesus said NONE of his dsciples replace him as leader of his congregation of saints... and they all EQUAL under him alone...

World religion does not reflect that equality in most churches and this sirte is no exception, creating not only an elite almost free to delete anything on personal decision , but even more elite memebers who make the rules for the slaves who then abuse the members and say it is the rules... what a farce ... it will never work until people DO what they SAY - and believe Jesus that His way of love ,equality, sharing IS the only way, and that their inevitable persecution by others is precious trial of faith in love...

Thus this site already violates the rights of free choice of religion and freedom of speech, alngside the everyday abuse of members because they are disenfranchised and undefended.

So there you have it, this site has no faith in love as the way to go, no faith in Jesus' teachings then, no faith in God that is love....

That is not to say that men will not say they believe in love as they continue to sin and abuse others, it is about the reality in christianity itself , that it is divided, showing that it has lost all sight of God and so is run by that other one , as Jesus said it must come to be.... else it would speak The one truth with one voice compatible with all scripture ...
 
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I'm glad we got a new owner. Maybe you'll have the guts, and brains to deal with the problems around here, unlike Erwin. It pleases me he's gone. Your biggest problem is hatred. This problem has manifested itself into a report war among other things. I have not taken part in it, but I have been a target. Dozens, and dozens of my posts have been reported. Some deserved it, I'll admit. But most have been just games. I angered the wrong member in a debate, and that's when it started. A dozen the first day. Dozen the next day, and I've been getting reported for any little thing I say that can be taken to be offensive. I'm not a pc-guy, never will be, and I'll be banned before I'll be cencored be creeps with no lives and nothing better to do than get back at people over the net.

Now there are a lot of things that can be done to nip this in the bud. You have to not only make rules, but define them, and how they are to be enforced. You have to go after people who constantly report the same person, or the same denom, or the same religion, or members of the same political party. Stop they're tattling abilities. You have to make the mods accountable to the people. The staff of the old CF was infamously corrupt. Most of them left when they realized they were going to have to be fair, and work with non-Christians instead of just ruling over them and bullying them.

But if you really want to change things. Make one forum that is for heated debate of all kinds, and only heated debates. You may stop the flaming when you go in and edit peoples posts and delete them, but you only fuel the flames for their inner illwill for the person they're debating. One, or sometimes both come away from a debate think the other is the one that ratted his post out to the mods. I speak from knowledge on this. There are some people on this forum that I would downright break their noses if I ever met them because of how slimy they've acted on here. Use insinuation and inuedo to insult me, but when I challenge them, not insult them, challenge them, I get reported. My post gets deleted. Not theirs, because they used the right blend of double talk and BS to insult me without actually insulting me. It's just cowardly, and has driven me to have a very low opinion of this site, and the people on it.
 
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My friend,
come out of the cupboard and open the eyes to the blinding light of reality ...

people's right to freedom of speech is being abused every single day here , everyone I know here knows this and sees it as wrong, a violation of human rights ...snip...
Only really addressing this point, but you've actually got no real freedom of speech in a private forum, your rights to post in this forum are fully controlled by the owner of the forum.
 
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