"Christ is King" is being used as anti-semitic language

[All Becomes New]

I don't know about you, but when I saw people like Candace Owens saying, "Christ is King," I knew something was up. We had our inclinations that this phrase has been used in an anti-semitic way for years, but now it is literally smacking us in the face.

Please don't use the phrase "Christ is King." It is a true statement, yes, but it carries with it a lot of baggage. It's somewhat lumped together with Christians Nationalism which has some baggage of it's own. But "Christ is King" has been used in overt ways as anti-semitic language.

Here is one example.

So, I say, chose this day who you will serve. Will you be a Biblical Christian and realize Jesus was a Jew? Or will you fall to the dark side and keep saying "Christ is King"?

I realize this is controversial, but at some point a line needs to be drawn and I think this is the time the line needs to be drawn.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I don't know about you, but when I saw people like Candace Owens saying, "Christ is King," I knew something was up. We had our inclinations that this phrase has been used in an anti-semitic way for years, but now it is literally smacking us in the face.

Please don't use the phrase "Christ is King." It is a true statement, yes, but it carries with it a lot of baggage. It's somewhat lumped together with Christians Nationalism which has some baggage of it's own. But "Christ is King" has been used in overt ways as anti-semitic language.

Here is one example.

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So, I say, chose this day who you will serve. Will you be a Biblical Christian and realize Jesus was a Jew? Or will you fall to the dark side and keep saying "Christ is King"?

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I realize this is controversial, but at some point a line needs to be drawn and I think this is the time the line needs to be drawn.

Personally, I've never used this meme since it only relies upon a shoddy predicate. We all know Christ isn't King.

.... He's the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! And the world will just have to get over it.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I don't know about you, but when I saw people like Candace Owens saying, "Christ is King," I knew something was up. We had our inclinations that this phrase has been used in an anti-semitic way for years, but now it is literally smacking us in the face.

Please don't use the phrase "Christ is King." It is a true statement, yes, but it carries with it a lot of baggage. It's somewhat lumped together with Christians Nationalism which has some baggage of it's own. But "Christ is King" has been used in overt ways as anti-semitic language.

Here is one example.

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So, I say, chose this day who you will serve. Will you be a Biblical Christian and realize Jesus was a Jew? Or will you fall to the dark side and keep saying "Christ is King"?

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I realize this is controversial, but at some point a line needs to be drawn and I think this is the time the line needs to be drawn.

I’m sorry. Christ IS king. I am not going to deny my Lord for some kind of political correctness. Viva Christo Rey.

If some anti-Semites are trying to steal a slogan that is not my problem. We all should say “Christ is king” even more. If they want to use it as a dog whistle we should all get dog whistles and blow them at every opportunity until they give up. Christ is Lord. Christ is king. Anti-Semites can just pound sand.

 

[All Becomes New]

I am not going to deny my Lord

Where did I say to do this?

that is not my problem. We all should say “Christ is king” even more.

You think that will solve the problem?

we should all get dog whistles and blow them at every opportunity until they give up.

That's not how language works. Using the phrase even more is likely to make a lot of people confused.

I get it that you are a Catholic and as such there is a lot of dogmatism that you have to stand for. I was hoping this was a situation where that was not necessary, but I guess not, even though there are no official statements by the Catholic church about the phrase, to the best of my knowledge.

 

[All Becomes New]

Personally, I've never used this meme since it only relies upon a shoddy predicate. We all know Christ isn't King.

.... He's the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! And the world will just have to get over it.

I agree. I don't have the same problem with saying "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" because there aren't the same controversies surrounding that phrase. Funny how this works... The things stated directly in the Bible, like "King of kings" and "King of the Jews," are not being used inappropriately, and yet, the Bible never says, "Christ is King," and that comes with a lot of baggage.

 

[mourningdove~]

I get it that you are a Catholic and as such there is a lot of dogmatism that you have to stand for. I was hoping this was a situation where that was not necessary, but I guess not, even though there are no official statements by the Catholic church about the phrase, to the best of my knowledge.

Saying 'Christ is King' has nothing to do with being Catholic ... all Christians should be professing it, and loudly.

(I don't agree with your thinking on this issue at.all.)

 

[All Becomes New]

Saying 'Christ is King' has nothing to do with being Catholic ... all Christians should be professing it, and loudly.

(I don't agree with your thinking on this issue at.all.)

Probably because you haven't seen the ugly ways the phrase has been used. It's not a Biblical phrase. Christ means Messiah, which literally already means king, so the phrase is completely redundant.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Where did I say to do this?



You think that will solve the problem?



That's not how language works. Using the phrase even more is likely to make a lot of people confused.

I get it that you are a Catholic and as such there is a lot of dogmatism that you have to stand for. I was hoping this was a situation where that was not necessary, but I guess not, even though there are no official statements by the Catholic church about the phrase, to the best of my knowledge.

Well, we do have the feast of Christ the King. And it has nothing to do with anti-Semitism and never has had anything to do with it. I say use the term and the ‘dog whistle’ meaning will become an unreliable signal and they will have to move on to something else.

 

[mourningdove~]

Christ is King

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[All Becomes New]

Well, we do have the feast of Christ the King. And it has nothing to do with anti-Semitism and never has had anything to do with it. I say use the term and the ‘dog whistle’ meaning will become an unreliable signal and they will have to move on to something else.

Why do you want to press into the language instead of exposing them?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I agree. I don't have the same problem with saying "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" because there aren't the same controversies surrounding that phrase. Funny how this works... The things stated directly in the Bible, like "King of kings" and "King of the Jews," are not being used inappropriately, and yet, the Bible never says, "Christ is King," and that comes with a lot of baggage.

Yes, apparently there is a lot of baggage with it these days, especially with what you've cited about it surrounding Candace Owens as it does. I know she's gotten herself into some trouble lately with all of that.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Probably because you haven't seen the ugly ways the phrase has been used. It's not a Biblical phrase. Christ means Messiah, which literally already means king, so the phrase is completely redundant.

Some people say “God bless you” in ugly ways. Where do you stop, short of shutting Christianity down. I think that might be the real goal of the anti-Christ is king movement. I’m not willing to give them that ground. They can pound sand to along with the anti-Semites.

 

[All Becomes New]

Yes, apparently there is a lot of baggage with it these days, especially with what you've cited about it surrounding Candace Owens as it does. I know she's gotten herself into some trouble lately with all of that.

She has fallen so far... Defending Andrew Tate of all people...

 

[mourningdove~]

Probably because you haven't seen the ugly ways the phrase has been used.

It doesn't matter to me how it's being misused.
It doesn't matter at all.

Christ IS King.

I surely won't let the enemy convince me to stop declaring it just because some folks may be misusing the phrase.

 

[All Becomes New]

Some people say “God bless you” in ugly ways. Where do you stop, short of shutting Christianity down. I think that might be the real goal of the anti-Christ is king movement. I’m not willing to give them that ground. They can pound sand to along with the anti-Semites.

People saying "God bless you" in ugly ways is not a huge movement of people. Saying "Christ is King" as anti-semitic language certainly does have a movement behind it. That makes all the difference in the world.

The anti-Christ movement will be subtle, not overt. You fail to see in this instance that Satan's goal is to deceive, not make all-out war. War comes later when there are barely any Christians left in the world. Think Islam is taking over the world. That's more or less how I see the anti-Christ movement. It's not direct... at first... until they hold all the cards.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Why do you want to press into the language instead of exposing them?

Go ahead and expose them. Why do you want Christians to change just to accommodate some self-proclaimed Johnny come lately anti-anti-Semite. I can be an anti-anti-Semite, and I have long been one, without denying that Christ is king.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

She has fallen so far... Defending Andrew Tate of all people...

Yeah, when she did that, I thought it was rather strange and inconsistent with much of what she had said before. She seems almost like a different person after coming off of DW as she did.

Like Hugh Hefner, Andrew Tate is indefensible, and it's inexcusable to do so.

 

[All Becomes New]

It doesn't matter to me how it's being misused.
It doesn't matter at all.

Christ IS King.

I surely won't let the enemy convince me to stop declaring it just because some folks may be misusing the phrase.

It's a redundant phrase. It does not make logical sense.

 

[All Becomes New]

Go ahead and expose them. Why do you want Christians to change just to accommodate some self-proclaimed Johnny come lately anti-anti-Semite. I can be an anti-anti-Semite, and I have long been one, without denying that Christ is king.

Because it is not a Biblical phrase, I am trying to steer people towards using a Biblical phrase instead. Do you really have a problem with that?

 

[All Becomes New]

Yeah, when she did that, I thought it was rather strange and inconsistent with much of what she had said before. She seems almost like a different person after coming off of DW as she did.

Like Hugh Hefner, Andrew Tate is indefensible, and it's inexcusable to do so.

No kidding! Like night and day!