Children Getting Too Personal

[white dove]

I'm not sure if this will help you, but I pray it does:

For one, when it comes to bringing up children in this SINFUL world, one must remember that you are raising them up to be the best children of God they CAN be..this world is very sinful~that's nothing new, yet it seems to be getting worse and worse everyday, I know. But, it's important to remember that one cannot shield their children from all the atrocities and immorality, one has to teach them to STAND UP against those things and STAND WITH (on the side of) God...sounds like you're doing that, no? In raising faithful children of God, you're ensuring that they will be the light to the rest of the world~God will work through them; after all, He's working through you!
God Bless

 

[msjones21]

Ya know what? You can't hide your kid forever. Homeschool him now and he'll be 'shielded' til he is 17 or 18, then he'll go into college (or the workplace) and be completely blown away because I can guarantee you high school is a small, small glimpse of the real world.

People are failing to realize that more and more parents are homeschooling their children, not for religious reasons, but because they want to ensure their child is getting the best possible education. The only way to ensure that is if you control your child's educational curriculum.

 

[Mac6yver]

So in other words, one must be a graduate of public education, go to college thousands of miles away, and live in a dormitory in order to be well-prepared for the "real world"?


Then your opinion of public education is highly biased. Not to mention public schools are 50 times worse now than they were when we were of high school age. You also fail to realize I went to church with people who were in public school and I dated a guy who was in public school. You think that just because I didn't personally go to public school that I am clueless? Junior high was horrific. I can't even imagine what high school would have been like.

Its funny. You are assuming again. Did I ever claim to have gone to public school? I in fact went to the best private elementary school in Ohio. Followed by a **** good private high school. So no, I do not think public education is required.

 

[pantsman52]

I wouldnt worry too much. You cant mother the child forever. If you shut him in from the real world until hes an adult, he wont know how to deal with new and possibly bad situations. Highschool is lifes boot camp, it trains you for the real world.

 

[draper]

People are failing to realize that more and more parents are homeschooling their children, not for religious reasons, but because they want to ensure their child is getting the best possible education. The only way to ensure that is if you control your child's educational curriculum.

Well in this case the OP seems to want to homeschool her kid because of religious reasons.

And I get the feeling a public school would provide a better education because, well, they're trained professionals.

 

[msjones21]

Its funny. You are assuming again. Did I ever claim to have gone to public school? I in fact went to the best private elementary school in Ohio. Followed by a **** good private high school. So no, I do not think public education is required.

Well then you had the added benefit of a sheltered, wealthy, private school environment. You weren't in any more or less of a diverse crowd than I was in high school. LOL Sheesh, next time let me know up front when we're not going to be on the same page. We're not talking about children of privilege here. We're talking about kids getting whatever the public school system can scrape from the bottom of the barrell. We're talking about kids being exposed to God only knows what (especially in the inner-city schools). We're not talking about kids being blessed enough to have the best of the best teachers.

 

[SqueezetheShaman]

Maybe if you're in IT or some other isolated profession. I'm in marketing and sales which means my social skills must be impecable in order to succeed. So sorry that your little attempt to discredit my stance failed.

You seem to be upset that we questioned you. Just was sharing my opinion. Didn't mean to bother you. although I gotta say. Being in sales doens't mean squat either lol I was in sales too. Top producer consistenly (has nothing to do with my point, but I like to brag) j/k...anyway, there were many people in my companies that were not at all efficient in dad to day socialization. After doing sales for a few years, I moved into account management. I managed over 100 business accounts. From mom n pops to large corporations. My supervisor was excellent in front of the the customers. But guess what? take him out to lunch, or anywhere but work and he was an absolute imbecile. All he could talk about was work. So again, don't want to argue it too much, especially if it is bothering you, but in my experience, home schooled kids were not at all welcome in any circles. They just weren't. And your career doesn't "prove it wrong" You may just be one of the special ones who were able to get past it. Happy for you. What kind of socialization did you do throughout school?

Also, I am biased due to the mothers I know who do it now. The 2 neighborhood families I know of that do are both downright nuts.

I have to admit, I did think of it when I was pregnant with my first son. You want to do everything for them, and I was trying to think of every way to make his life special. I thought of it for awhile. But crashed back to earth when I thought about the people I knew who did it. I think homschooling tends to be a selfish action instead of selfless. In my experience the kids end up scarred, and I don't understand how someone would risk it..

 

[msjones21]

And I get the feeling a public school would provide a better education because, well, they're trained professionals.

Really? What exactly is the quality of a child's public education? One teacher per forty or more children to a classroom. Students get advanced to the next grade level simlpy because there isn't enough room to hold them back. Did you know that many students who get accepted into public colleges have lower than a sixth grade reading comprehension level? Anyone can be a teacher these days. Overcrowding in the public schools means students are the ones who lose.

 

[SqueezetheShaman]

People are failing to realize that more and more parents are homeschooling their children, not for religious reasons, but because they want to ensure their child is getting the best possible education. The only way to ensure that is if you control your child's educational curriculum.

Well then, just teach him at home too.

 

[SqueezetheShaman]

OP can you afford a private christian school? I think that would be the safest bet.

 

[ThePhoenix]

My point is that you might have found college life very hard to adjust to if you had gone. Especially if you found yourself in a dorm, a thousand miles away from home, with hundreds of kids who have serious differences in their views. It is quite possible you would become a sort of "Shut In". I have seen that persoanlly with a guy who was homeschooled.


All i am saying is that i think I have a better understanding of what happens in high school then you do, considering I have been there.

LOL, don't give me that BS. I was homeschooled, I am going to college, and I'm not a shut in. I've seen shut ins too. And the fact is, there's ones who went to highschool as well. Homeschooling tends to attract those who are more likely to become shut ins (duh) but it's not exactly a sure thing.

 

[ThePhoenix]

Well in this case the OP seems to want to homeschool her kid because of religious reasons.

And I get the feeling a public school would provide a better education because, well, they're trained professionals.

LOL! Did you ever, um, go to public school? Education? LOL. Tripe fed to me out of textbooks, with jokes for teachers. Homeschooling was the best decision I ever made.

 

[SqueezetheShaman]

LOL! Did you ever, um, go to public school? Education? LOL. Tripe fed to me out of textbooks, with jokes for teachers. Homeschooling was the best decision I ever made.

YOU made the decision?

 

[Haethurn]

Not to mention the bulk of high school socialization revolves around raunchy sex talk, cell phones, cars, and whose taking who to prom.

Really? I'm in high school right now, and my circle of friends prefer to engage in exciting debates on politics, philosophy, theology, and history. And all this time we've been quoting Plato's The Republic when we really should have been talking about sex?

Man, we've really screwed up. I better tell the guys on Monday that we have to stop talking about ancient Greek philosophers and Libertarianism and start comparing cell phones and talking about cars. I'm really behind. I don't even have a cell phone. Or a car.

 

[SqueezetheShaman]

Really? I'm in high school right now, and my circle of friends prefer to engage in exciting debates on politics, philosophy, theology, and history. And all this time we've been quoting Plato's The Republic when we really should have been talking about sex?

Man, we've really screwed up. I better tell the guys on Monday that we have to stop talking about ancient Greek philosophers and Libertarianism and start comparing cell phones and talking about cars. I'm really behind. I don't even have a cell phone. Or a car.

You mean you are able to keep away from the people who have nothing better to talk about than sex? My goodness how is that possible!?

thanks for proving a wonderful point.

 

[draper]

LOL! Did you ever, um, go to public school? Education? LOL. Tripe fed to me out of textbooks, with jokes for teachers. Homeschooling was the best decision I ever made.

Indeed I have gone through the Catholic & Public education systems. (Public H.S)

I learned a lot.

 

[draper]

Really? I'm in high school right now, and my circle of friends prefer to engage in exciting debates on politics, philosophy, theology, and history. And all this time we've been quoting Plato's The Republic when we really should have been talking about sex?

Man, we've really screwed up. I better tell the guys on Monday that we have to stop talking about ancient Greek philosophers and Libertarianism and start comparing cell phones and talking about cars. I'm really behind. I don't even have a cell phone. Or a car.

And that made my day.

 

[Haethurn]

You mean you are able to keep away from the people who have nothing better to talk about than sex? My goodness how is that possible!?

thanks for proving a wonderful point.

I take Honors classes. Most of the people who only talk about sex aren't intelligent enough to take any more than regular classes, maybe CP classes. Maybe. I switch classes if my classmates are morons.

My group of close friends, numbering about ten people, got permission from a teacher to stay in his classroom, unsupervised, during lunch. We used to go there and do nothing but talk about politics over lunch. Then one of the very strict, rule-obsessed teachers caught us and told us that we were not allowed to be upstairs. I told her that we needed a quiet place to debate and that the teacher had given us permission to be up here, but she wouldn't listen. I also pointed out the fact that we had been going there for months and nobody had said anything about it, and that according to Socrates in The Republic, when a doctor does not perform the services proper to his profession, he is not a doctor, and that the administration of the school, by not enforcing its rules, could not be considered an administration at all, and that therefore we should be allowed to stay in the room, but that didn't work either.

So we got permission from another teacher to go to another room, provided that not many people go there. This was fine for a few weeks, but then the teacher was afraid that we would get caught and told us that we had better go elsewhere. Now we are all separated in various places around the school during lunch. I am going to have to rally everybody and lead them to another place where we can gather in secrecy and discuss the issues that are important to us. I know of one teacher who might be able to accomodate us.

 

[draper]

"hi, can we talk about politics in your classroom?"

I used to do that, too, LOL.

 

[SqueezetheShaman]

I take Honors classes. Most of the people who only talk about sex aren't intelligent enough to take any more than regular classes, maybe CP classes. Maybe. I switch classes if my classmates are morons.

My group of close friends, numbering about ten people, got permission from a teacher to stay in his classroom, unsupervised, during lunch. We used to go there and do nothing but talk about politics over lunch. Then one of the very strict, rule-obsessed teachers caught us and told us that we were not allowed to be upstairs. I told her that we needed a quiet place to debate and that the teacher had given us permission to be up here, but she wouldn't listen. I also pointed out the fact that we had been going there for months and nobody had said anything about it, and that according to Socrates in The Republic, when a doctor does not perform the services proper to his profession, he is not a doctor, and that the administration of the school, by not enforcing its rules, could not be considered an administration at all, and that therefore we should be allowed to stay in the room, but that didn't work either.

So we got permission from another teacher to go to another room, provided that not many people go there. This was fine for a few weeks, but then the teacher was afraid that we would get caught and told us that we had better go elsewhere. Now we are all separated in various places around the school during lunch. I am going to have to rally everybody and lead them to another place where we can gather in secrecy and discuss the issues that are important to us. I know of one teacher who might be able to accomodate us.

Unfortunately I was a boy crazed twit in high school (shut up Blessed75) but my husband went through the same problems as you. Adults expect all kids to be like the worst ones they know. Just stay a good kid and prove em all wrong