Chemtrails

[wtrailer]

I have seen planes leaving chemtrails while seeing other planes, commercial airlines, leave nothing in their wake. Not even contrails. Also, if you observe the planes leaving chemtrails they always fly in strange patterns, much higher than commercial airlines. They also create grid patterns and Xs in the sky. Now why would air traffic do that?

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[wtrailer]

You simply have to conclude that something strange is going on. What we see in the sky is simply not condensation. Also, in the morning the chemtrails are heavy in the east and in heavy in the evening in the west. The theory of geoengineering makes the most sense to me. It seems pretty clear that thdy are trying to block the sun.

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[pgp_protector]

You simply have to conclude that something strange is going on. What we see in the sky is simply not condensation. Also, in the morning the chemtrails are heavy in the east and in heavy in the evening in the west. The theory of geoengineering makes the most sense to me. It seems pretty clear that thdy are trying to block the sun.

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[Rick Otto]

For the record, I watched most of her video (Kristen), but simply couldn't listen to her any more at some point. I think she comes off a little unstable, and don't think her talk was convincing at all.

I posted David Keith with the We Are Change group because I wanted people who are interested to listen to him talk very openly with that group, taking on questions about multiple conspiracy beliefs that they are committed to. If you watched it all, you'll note that he has been threatened multiple times, with one death threat being credible enough for the authorities to investigate. I think intense belief in conspiracy theories can become a dangerous thing, such as his instance of being threatened, along with the Sandy Hook Truthers who have harassed family members who lost loved ones.

I thought he was very polite, as much as possible, when dealing with their many misunderstandings about chemtrails, HAARP, and how science works in general.


Btodd

I was thinking you come off a little unstable, not Kristen.

 

[Rick Otto]

Sure never serious enough...

 

[Rick Otto]

Not according to, oh, y'know, all of the available science.

Chemtrails have more than condensation.
What science says condensation forming contrails is more than water vapor?

 

[Rick Otto]

In a way you are correct.
However I also asked not to ridicule on the matters that are widely questioned.
I believe I also stated that some threads are just wacko so it would be up to staff to close them as needed.
For example, one guy opened thread he is getting messages from angel Gabriel the exact date when the rapture would take place.
So I closed the thread (no violations or anything like that).
So far it seems to work OK.

In a way?
You mean to tell me there is a way it is NOT?
smh

 

[Rick Otto]

I have seen planes leaving chemtrails while seeing other planes, commercial airlines, leave nothing in their wake. Not even contrails. Also, if you observe the planes leaving chemtrails they always fly in strange patterns, much higher than commercial airlines. They also create grid patterns and Xs in the sky. Now why would air traffic do that?

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I think contrails only happen at higher altitudes where the temperature is lower.

 

[wtrailer]

Another thing to consider is that there is video of chemtrails shutting on and off. This makes no scientific sense if it were just a contrail.

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[The Cadet]

Another thing to consider is that there is video of chemtrails shutting on and off. This makes no scientific sense if it were just a contrail.

Given that contrail cloud formation is dependent on atmospheric moisture and pressure, and this can vary starkly from one patch of air to another, it makes perfect sense that it would "turn on and off" in that way.

Chemtrails have more than condensation.

Citation needed.

What science says condensation forming contrails is more than water vapor?

None, that's the Point.

 

[Rick Otto]

QUOTE="The Cadet, post: Citation needed.

How much? How mainstream?

http://yournewswire.com/top-scientist-confirms-aluminium-poisoning-via-chemtrails-is-real/

None, that's the Point.

then you totally lost me because I said:"Contrails are only condensation (H2o) and dissipate within seconds."
Then you replied: "Not according to, oh, y'know, all of the available science."

...oh. sarcasm, right?
Sorry I missed that.

Here's a lawsuit to stop it:

http://yournewswire.com/historic-chemtrails-lawsuit-filed-in-canada/

 

[Rick Otto]

Given that contrail cloud formation is dependent on atmospheric moisture and pressure, and this can vary starkly from one patch of air to another, it makes perfect sense that it would "turn on and off" .

No it doesn't.
Atmospheric pressure and moisture don't normally make sudden, significant variations enough for that to be even an occasional occurrence.

 

[The Cadet]

No it doesn't.
Atmospheric pressure and moisture don't normally make sudden, significant variations enough for that to be even an occasional occurrence.

http://contrailscience.com/broken-contrails/

They occur long after the contrail has formed, they can be measured based on temperature... You don't need sudden variations, you just need small ones.

How much? How mainstream?

http://yournewswire.com/top-scientist-confirms-aluminium-poisoning-via-chemtrails-is-real/

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-j...es-in-current-science-india-and-ijerph.t6456/

I don't know what Current Science's deal is. They seem to be a real peer-reviewed journal, so it begs the question why they publish this kind of garbage. The paper is full of serious problems.

 

[Rick Otto]

1. 
   "Independent testing over the past decade confirms that Chemtrails around the country contain a dangerous and extremely poisonous mix of chemicals that includes: barium, nano aluminum-coated fiberglass [known as CHAFF], radioactive thorium, cadmium, chromium, nickel, desiccated blood, mold spores, yellow fungal ...Apr 29, 2013
   Geoengineering & Chemtrails: What In The World Are They Spraying?
   www.collective-evolution.com › geoengi...

 

[Arbown]

IMO, the proof is in the patents. We know the gov has cloud seeding programs and has had them for a long time. The question is are they just rain seeding, or doing more. The patents suggest they are doing, way, way more than trying to make rain and lots of it. Then there's the science that just doesn't make sense with the old contrail argument.

Geoengineering Affects You, Your Environment, and Your Loved Ones is a good resource for info on this.

 

[Rick Otto]

There is nothing scary about condensed water, which is what contrails are. There is zero evidence for 'chemtrails' for one thing any chemicals being dumped from 30,000+ feet would be dispersed to the point of being useless. There are so many things wrong with this conspiracy, good source to look at can be found here Chemtrails - RationalWiki

This answer belongs in News & Current Events, not Conspiracy Theory.
Wiki is so sanitized whitewash it is obviously unreliable on anything of controversy unless one is simply looking for a place to hide from reality. Same thing with that laughable Snopes site.

It is patently absurd to claim there is "no evidence". That is schoolyard playground tactic.
It is equally absurd to claim its useless.

For one thing, it's being done commercially under the guise of "geo-engineering" which anyone can easily find online.

Seriously, Goonie... what possessed you to leave the relative safety of your mainstream boundaries in the N&CE forum, I have to wonder. smh

 

[Arbown]

This is what God meant when He said at the end of time that men would have to be stopped before they destroyed the Earth. He meant the evil men, not all men.

 

[Tanj]

This is what God meant when He said at the end of time that men would have to be stopped before they destroyed the Earth. He meant the evil men, not all men.

When did He say that? Scripture please.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Has anyone been following the chemtrail research? I notice the planes spraying almost everday. We live in scary times.
Wt

Why is this in conspiracy section ? The poisons in air, food, water, and medicine has been exposed and known as normal business in the world for over a century.

 

[Arbown]

When did He say that? Scripture please.

I'm thinking of Revelation 11:18 "The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth."