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Has it stopped the gifts of GOD?

Sorry it hasn't. You're still complaining and Pentecostal churches are still growing. Your crusade is a failure.

RICK JOYNER: Third Wave leader says:
there is a civil war now underway in Christendom between those who support the new thing God is doing today (called the "move of God") and those who oppose it.

~ interesting the militancy in these NEW movements>> AGAINST orthodoxy and Sola Scriptura.

~ where is Jesus in all this?
 
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This is a warning that all should see, a timely call for discernment.

Interesting though that it was brought up in this thread because Andrew Strom still remains a Spirit filled charismatic Christian who believes in the continued use by the Church of all the giftings of the Holy Spirit, healings, tongues, prophecy, words of knowledge, miracles, etc.
 
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forthcoming will be a full examination of The Pentecostal Movement.
i am not threatened by information. we all choose.

IF ANY OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS INACCURATE, please be specific so it may addressed.

source: ASSOCIATION OF FORMER PENTECOSTALS

History of Pentecostalism

When did it all start? Ask a Pentecostal, and they'll tell you "33 A.D. -- the Day of Pentecost!" Well, this isn't the case exactly! There have been a few brief movements throughout Christian history that resembled some aspects of Pentecostalism, a few people that "dabbled" in tongues -- but nothing that is really comparable, or has lasted as long as the modern movement. What we know as the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement didn't really get started until the beginning of the 20th Century, at the Topeka and Azusa Street (LA) revivals.
There are hundreds of links in the internet about such histories, and a few of them are "lush" with their own dogma and jargon. To separate the history from the . . . well, garbage, I've assembled some of the best links detailing Pentecostal/Charismatic histories. Some of these links are from denominational resources within these movements, but those that are (and that I have chosen) have presented their past rather subjectively -- and without a lot of the Pentecostal hoopla.

Some of the links -- denoted by an asterisk (*) -- will take you to sites off of this website. After viewing off-site information, simply use the "Back" button of your browser to return to AFP. AFP is not responsible for information on third party sites.

History of Pentecostalism
 
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Pentecostalism is arguably the most important mass religious movement of the twentieth century. Today, this movement is the second largest sub-group of global Christianity. It has over 30 million American adherents and a worldwide following of 430 million.1 Pentecostalism’s inauspicious beginnings at the turn of the century make the movement’s growth all the more surprising. This essay will examine how historians have interpreted the origins of American Pentecostalism and will suggest some areas for further study. Before discussing the historiography, it will help to survey the movement’s early history.

Pentecostalism grew out of the Holiness revival during the second half of the nineteenth century. This revival was an expression of both social and theological discontent among the nation’s lower and middle-class groups. Holiness advocates disapproved of the impiety in mainline denominations and were alienated by the growing wealth and elaborateness of their churches. Not content to remain in mainline churches, they formed new religious communities committed to the theological doctrine of perfectionism.2 These former Methodists, Presbyterians, and Baptists believed they were experiencing a renewed outpouring of the Holy Spirit much like the early church experienced in the book of Acts. The holiness revival spawned zeal for "Spirit Baptism" (a divine empowerment of believers) and for other gifts of the New Testament church such as healing and prophecy. Holiness leaders such as Charles Cullis, John Alexander Dowie, and Albert B. Simpson established healing missions across the U.S. They, like other holiness advocates, believed a new, miraculous era of the spirit was occurring which would end in the second coming of Christ.

Pentecostalism took "Spirit Baptism" and the restoration of New Testament gifts one step further. In January, 1901, holiness minister Charles Fox Parham asked the students at his Topeka Bible school to study the scriptures and determine what evidence might be given of Spirit baptism. Using the pentecost account in Acts chapter two, they concluded that speaking in tongues was the confirmation of Holy Spirit baptism. This first wave of Pentecostalism spread in the revival that followed, but remained regional, moving into Kansas, Missouri, Texas, and Arkansas.

ASSESSING THE ROOTS

[examination of the supposed Biblical FOUNDATION of this movement in Acts 2, PENTECOST can determine whether the entire house is built on the right The Foundation, or if there is error.....please contribute here re: the Miracle of Pentecost as recorded in Acts 2]​
 
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The origins of Pentecostalism

Although Pentecostals trace their origin to the Apostles, the modern-day Pentecostal movement has its roots in the late 19th century, a time of mounting indifference to traditional religion. Denominations that were known for revivalistic fervour became subdued. Emotional modes of religious expression—enthusiastic congregational singing, spontaneous testimonies, prayer in unison, and extemporaneous sermons on simple biblical themes by lay preachers—gave way to ordered, formal worship services that were conducted by “reverends,” ministers trained in homiletics (preaching skills), who were influenced by higher biblical criticism. Lecture centres and elegant sanctuaries replaced camp meetings and crude wood-frame tabernacles.

As the large popular Protestant denominations became the churches of the upper-middle class, people of limited means began to feel out of place. They yearned to return to a “heart religion” that would satisfy their spiritual desires and their emotional, psychological, and physical needs...



BRITANNICA ONLINE

Pentecostalism :: The origins of Pentecostalism -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
 
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According to Curtis Edwards, Pagan Pentecostalism: Its Roots: Sex, Sin & Slavery, Voodoo was the religion of African slaves. And even before slavery they would voodoo any religion they took part in. They had voodoo Catholicism for the main part.

The after coming to Haitian and American shores, they voodooed whatever religion they encountered. Voodoo Methodism and voodoo Baptist churches, were common in Louisiana.

Wm. Seymour tried to voodoo the Church of God (Anderson) but got expelled. Shortly thereafter, he voodooed his Wesley Methodism at Azusa street in Los Angeles. He thought voodoo tongues were the same as Bible tongues. This became the Assemblies of God denomination with the Oneness United Pentecostal Church splitting off from them over their antitrinitarian views.

Curtis Edwards

Edwards, Curtis. Pagan Pentecostalism: Its Roots: Sex, Sin & Slavery . Kindle Edition.

Also Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction

Religious affiliation and psychiatric disorder among Protestant baby boomers - PubMed
 
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Interesting though that it was brought up in this thread because Andrew Strom still remains a Spirit filled charismatic Christian who believes in the continued use by the Church of all the giftings of the Holy Spirit, healings, tongues, prophecy, words of knowledge, miracles, etc.

That's right. Someone can be a Spirit filled Christian, believe in the gifts of the Spirit etc and still be concerned about some of the extremes they have witnessed in the church. Repentance brings us closer to God and makes the church stronger. God Bless :)
 
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