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Changing names?

Sascha Fitzpatrick

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Hmm... I have to think here of all the stuff, cos there were a few things that happened that may not have if I'd had the same name as my mum.

I think most of them had to do with misconceptions. I went to a Christian school, where I was basically the only one with a different name to my mum (she worked at school too). There were a lot of jokes about adoption, fornication, the stigma with a divorce, that went on that didn't need to. Even if I should have been stronger, as a child at that point, I would have preferred to not have the issues to begin with.

As an adult, I can see that it was more THEIR problem and I had to deal with it, but when you're a little child, you can't see things that rationally. All you can see is that you are 'different', and when you're trying to fit in (as all kids do), anything that screams 'different' results in mocking (ever seen those little kids with burquas on and how the other kids abandon them?). You can teach children all you want to about 'dealing with it', but they still have a child's mind - and it WILL hurt. It's all to do with the 'innocence of a child's mind' and the fact that they don't have the rationalisation that an adult does, no matter how hard we (as adults) try to 'help' them.

I think that would be my main concern, with my children. I know what I went through because of it, due to other kids, and although I put on the brave face, and listened to mum when she said 'don't get upset by their immaturity', it still hurt when you went to the playground and were whispered about.

Also, I remember when I had step-siblings, that family groups would happen at children's church, and people would innocently put me in another group, because of the lack of having the same last name. I HATED that! I also hated having to tell them that they WERE my siblings, and having to embarrass them.

I know that to us adults that doesn't seem like much, but thinking about it now reminds me about how much it hurt as a child when my 'difference' caused others to hurt me and mock me.

I'm not saying we should protect our kids from EVERY slight, but in that matter, I think I'd want to avoid it, before it happened.

There's probably some other stuff as well in regards to me having a different name to mum, so if I think of any, I'll post again.

Sasch
 
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Obviously I'm not engaged yet, I just love reading about all your planning! I cant wait to someday marry. I think if the man I married had a last name that clashed with my first (jennii) then i'd hyphenate my name. For example Jackson, Jen Jackson doesnt sound quite right (in my opinion) so I'd become Jen Carter-Jackson. Or I have a friend who is training as a doctor and his last names Dyson, Dr Dyson, lol, if he married one of his fellow doctors I think they'd probably hyphenate their last name!
 
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I changed my name, willingly and gratefully. We're a family. Our name defines our family as one. It was important to me and my husband that I change my last name to his.

On the other hand, if I were a man, I wouldn't marry a woman who wouldn't take my name. If she wanted to keep her name, she could stay single before I'd take her on a second date. But that's just an example of how important it is to me that my family have the same (male's) last name.
 
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I can't wait to be Mrs. B in 68 days! It's gonna rock. YAY!
As for what others do, I don't care. It's up to them.

I am so so so proud to be marrying my sweetie that I want to change my name so everybody knows I'm his!

Also, we don't plan to have kids, but we are very passionate about being thought of as a family of 2, so I want us to have teh same name. We call ourselves the once and future "B's" now.
 
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We both hyphenated. My husband is the one that instigated it. Our reasons were:

1. We wanted to honour both of our family histories, not just his.
2. We wanted our name to represent our unity. When I take his name, it shows a change for me, but none for him – that is not representative of marriage. We are no longer simply individuals, but two people joined together as one. We wanted our name to reflect this change for both of us.

We also go by Mr. and Ms. The reason we don’t like Mrs. is that it stands for “mistress of…”. In the very recent past, women were known as “Mrs. John Smith”, meaning “The mistress of John Smith”. We feel this harkens back to again the recent past when women were not considered people but property. We just think it is important to encourage each others individuality within the union of marriage. :)
 
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mbams said:
We also go by Mr. and Ms. The reason we don’t like Mrs. is that it stands for “mistress of…”. In the very recent past, women were known as “Mrs. John Smith”, meaning “The mistress of John Smith”. We feel this harkens back to again the recent past when women were not considered people but property. We just think it is important to encourage each others individuality within the union of marriage. :)
You may be shocked to know that mistress also means: (among other things) A woman in a position of authority, control, or ownership, as the head of a household. Mistress has many meanings, only one of which is a negative connotation.
 
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Hey Island Breeze,
Yes, I am familiar with dictionary.com’s definition of mistress (and believe me, there is more than one negative connotation there). What I am speaking of, however, is the historical connotations of these definitions. In the past, for instance, an aristocratic woman would have “authority” over her servants and those of lower class then her. But she held that title because she was married to a man in power. In many cases, if her husband died or divorced her, she would be left with little or nothing. This is because she was not a person of authority in her own right, but she simply benefited from her husband’s authority – because she belonged to the master. This helps explain why a woman could not be known as “Ms. Jane Wood”, but the “Mistress of John Wood”. She has authority because she is the property of a man in authority, not just because of who she is herself. Being considered property and not legally being considered a person couldn’t have any real authority. The king’s cow, chair or dwelling is more valuable then the beggars. The "mistress" would slip into that list too. That is why we choose not to use the term. :)
 
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I look forward to when my man and I can share a name. My hunny says he would be honoured if i took his name, but he said it isn't necessary. it wouldn't make him and I any less One.

But I'm going to do it.

I'm taking my maiden name and making it a second middle name. I will always be a K... but I will be moving into a new chapter of my life where I am a T....
 
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Sascha Fitzpatrick

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I read this thing the other day that said (it was an official 'what you need to do to change your name' book thing) that if you are planning on keeping your maiden name, you are supposed to use 'Ms' instead of 'Mrs'... it didn't say why though!

If that was true, that ALONE would make me change my name! Ms always condures up an idea that I am a defacto, or a divorcee (probably cos the only people I knew growing up who were Ms were one of these)... I hate Ms!

Sasch
 
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I will be changing my name. A part of me agrees with you, I can't wait to share the same name as my s/o and letting everyone know we are united in holy marriage. But at the same time, I am extremely proud of my scottish herritage. I love my last name, and the questions it brings about where my family came from. My s/o is part Scottish also, but on his mother's side, so his last name is German (father's side). And as much as I want to hang on to my last name, I at least have my little brother, and future nieces and nephews who will have that to call their own. Tradition is strong in my family, and this is one tradition I don't plan on changing.
 
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there's a family in my parents' church who changed their names to some german one that means hospitality or something like that. Now, each of them goes by two last names... so it's like "Jane Smith Hospitality" and "John Jones Hospitality" and they apparently get upset if you just use their common last name. I don't really understand why, but perhaps that's cuz I don't really see the purpose of keeping one's name. Their kids just go by the common last name though. I'm glad. I think that hey, people can call themselves whatever they want, but please don't give your kids a bunch of last names... one is plenty for any kid!
 
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