CF is just adrift?

[GreenMunchkin]

Do you think so? Am honestly not one to make waves, but am getting quite frustrated with the abject lack of communication/change/movement. The online list is gone and I thought it was recent, but I just saw Jimminy asked about that over a week ago... I don't believe it's a server issue, anymore. If it's been removed to hide the lack of numbers, am actually quite annoyed at how dishonest that would be.

Feeling very proletariat and disappointed, and am wondering whether y'all think it's worth our staying? It's something we all have to decide for ourselves ultimately, but I suppose am wondering whether you think there'll be something? Cos at the moment we're just a kite that's not being tethered, and it's fairly unpleasant

 

[MrJim]

I have my toes in a couple of other sites though this is home~~we keep holding out but there's just some stuff going on that sickens me~~I've reported one incident I'll pm you one that isn't getting resolved...

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I have my toes in a couple of other sites though this is home~~we keep holding out but there's just some stuff going on that sickens me~~I've reported one incident I'll pm you one that isn't getting resolved...

This won't be a Christian forum while stuff like that is allowed

 

[ladyt28]

I barely come to this site anymore. I check my pm's and a few forums like this one but that's about it. I've been going to another Christian forum and have even become a moderator over there. This site just feels like a financial venture for the current owner and saying it is "adrift" sounds just about perfect. I miss seeing a lot of you all but I just don't feel good at CF anymore. It's sad.

 

[Zecryphon]

I'm gonna stay. We have to be careful about how much we criticize CF. We can't discuss mod actions in public or private and I wonder how long it will be until all discussion about CF will be outlawed too. But I also think that the backlash we're seeing against CF now, is a great reflection of what Christianity has become. How many people are leaving, going to leave or have left because they don't feel good here? In my two-plus years here I've often seen people say that it's not about them, but about Christ. Yet when they have to suffer in any way or be made not to feel good, they up and leave for greener pastures. There is no perfect Christian forum out there. When you leave one forum for another, you're just running to different set of problems. The only reason a new forum seems better is because you don't know who the troublemakers are and what the problems with the new forum are. Once you DO know that, then that forum ceases to be a truly Christian forum too and you're left questioning whether or not you want to stay there. Christ preached in Hell. What makes us so special that we can't be bothered to do the same?

 

[MrJim]

I'm gonna stay. We have to be careful about how much we criticize CF. We can't discuss mod actions in public or private and I wonder how long it will be until all discussion about CF will be outlawed too. But I also think that the backlash we're seeing against CF now, is a great reflection of what Christianity has become. How many people are leaving, going to leave or have left because they don't feel good here? In my two-plus years here I've often seen people say that it's not about them, but about Christ. Yet when they have to suffer in any way or be made not to feel good, they up and leave for greener pastures. There is no perfect Christian forum out there. When you leave one forum for another, you're just running to different set of problems. The only reason a new forum seems better is because you don't know who the troublemakers are and what the problems with the new forum are. Once you DO know that, then that forum ceases to be a truly Christian forum too and you're left questioning whether or not you want to stay there. Christ preached in Hell. What makes us so special that we can't be bothered to do the same?

Very good points~it does take a different level of tolerance when things deteriorate to the point they are now, and some folks aren't able to basically stomach some of the things that are done.

There's a passage:

Eph 5:8 –Eph 5:12 NKJV
For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.

It becomes a thin line to walk at some point~unlike preaching in hell, this place marks itself as a Christian community.

 

[visionary]

It is the people that make it or break it. I am here to make a difference. I am here to witness the love of my faith in Him. I know that others come with an agenda that is not kosher to our faith, but they are those who wear on our edges, until we polish up into the gems of the Lord as He wishes.

True, the concern over the agenda of the website owner's spiritual position on a lot of matters and how it affects the website itself is a serious and very important concern. We need to pray for him. We need to pray for the ministry of this website. We need to be part of the solution.

 

[Addicted2~Jesus]

I check in from time to time, but CF as a whole jes continues to deteriorate in my opinion. Each 'outlet' er ability any of us have er try an use to make a change, to sorta try an draw back to a lessor of the evil lines are promptly an swiftly cut off an we're slapped down.

The fellowship that had exsited jes doesn't anymore. Least not that I have seen. There is lil to no communication from staff on thins, they are in thier own boat agin an sailin off in a direction that I largely can not support, the site owner conveys nuthin to the membership whatsoever an I guess that's ok, but if that is to be ok, then cf is not a ministry wit any form er leadership present. It's actually quite sad to me. I wouldn't say CF was ever perfect, which of us are? but it's been goin way way down hill in my opinion since the site swap for sure, even Erwin wasn't really doin folks many favours towards the end there.

I have other forums where I fellowship, there's jes truly not much here anymore, an I grow very weary of the constant fight, an I don't care if your jes talkin bout a hill of beans, *someone's* always got a problem wit sumthin which starts a fuss.

I'm a bit concerned bout the site stats as well. I'm hopin it is jes some bug wit it an not that it is an intentional cover up. Cause I agree, that'd jes be out an out dishonest.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

((((((LadyT))))))

((((((A2J))))))))

Tis always so, so nice to see you both Makes the place feel friendlier, really

 

[sinneD]

The online list is gone and I thought it was recent, but I just saw Jimminy asked about that over a week ago... I don't believe it's a server issue, anymore. If it's been removed to hide the lack of numbers, am actually quite annoyed at how dishonest that would be.

Sheeshhh... it was taken off-line because it was slowing the server down... or didn't you notice that the speed-to-post time was slow ?

Staff members want it back as much as you do.. it's a valid tool for moderators to use. There isn't any dishonesty to it... it's simply a technical issue.

 

[Addicted2~Jesus]

Sheeshhh... it was taken off-line because it was slowing the server down... or didn't you notice that the speed-to-post time was slow ?

Staff members want it back as much as you do.. it's a valid tool for moderators to use. There isn't any dishonesty to it... it's simply a technical issue.

This uh... technical issue... seems to be a very large problem if it's not so easily fixed then huh?

Spose.. I donno, your staff, do you have any knowledge of the issue? Could you maybe explain some of the trouble? More importantly... have you been placed in the loop to know anythin at all bout it?

 

[Addicted2~Jesus]

((((((LadyT))))))

((((((A2J))))))))

Tis always so, so nice to see you both Makes the place feel friendlier, really

You an a handful of others are turly the only reason I drop by from time to time, jes to make sure everbodies still kickin an blessed in the Lord.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Sheeshhh... it was taken off-line because it was slowing the server down... or didn't you notice that the speed-to-post time was slow ?

Can't say I'd noticed any slowness, no.

Staff members want it back as much as you do.. it's a valid tool for moderators to use. There isn't any dishonesty to it... it's simply a technical issue.

I'd appreciate it if you could drop the combative tone. I don't believe I accused anyone of dishonesty... I said if it IS that. Conjecture. Nor did I *mention* staff, so I get the feeling you're seeing an attack where there isn't one. If I had something to say about staff, I'd say it outright. I actually think staff are in a horrid horrid position.

So unless we're now not allowed to discuss concerns in our home forums with the people we're close to, I'd thank you to dial down the antagonism Much obliged.

 

[ladyt28]

I have NEVER participated in a forum that has as many "technical" problems as CF seems to have - and isn't it amazing that all of these problems occur after it was taken over by someone who owns web sites for a living as opposed to someone who did it on the side?

As far as leaving only because of "trouble-makers" or the such, no. I drifted away because I am tired of one problem after another, I am tired of an owner who feels no responsibility to communicate to the members, I was disgusted to learn that several of our moderators go to other sites to gossip about members here and plan on ways to get "undesirable" members here banned, and the ongoing nasty disagreements regarding what this site is/what it is becoming/whatever the latest/greatest complaint is. I came to this site for fellowship and saw too many of my friends leave - there aren't enough here to fellowship with anymore! And the absolute last straw came with the heavy-handed moderation that I now see. I simply cannot agree with this super-secret, how-dare-you-criticize-or-talk-about-what-we-do attitude! I'm not a lock-step kinda gal who quietly complies when told "because we said so".

Honestly, do people feel that all of the discord that happens here is glorifying our Lord Father? Do you feel that CF promotes understanding and furthering edification of our Lord Father? It got to the point with me where I got too caught up in the politics-de-jure rather than my relationship with God and that's not where I need to be. I don't honestly believe that anyone ever 'argued' someone into Christianity but I DO believe that many have been argued out of it. And that's what I see - arguing. I don't find discussions where people share their faith in a respectful way with prayers for those who don't see the truth. I was walking with CF more than I was walking with God. And that's just my story.

 

[Lisa0315]

I have been given a cool off ban for less than what is in this thread. I am not disagreeing with anyone here. I am simply saying that y'all need to be very careful in who and what you criticize.

 

[Addicted2~Jesus]

I have been given a cool off ban for less than what is in this thread. I am not disagreeing with anyone here. I am simply saying that y'all need to be very careful in who and what you criticize.

I know... been there done that... an isn't it jes insanely... sad? I mean c'mon, at what point in time did I ever agree to join a forum where it was intended to be some sort of dictatorship er the like??

I have always loved the "your opinion is valid accept when it contradicts ours"....

 

[FightTheLeft]

The politics forum is now resembling Democratic Underground.

 

[Lisa0315]

I know... been there done that... an isn't it jes insanely... sad? I mean c'mon, at what point in time did I ever agree to join a forum where it was intended to be some sort of dictatorship er the like??

I have always loved the "your opinion is valid accept when it contradicts ours"....

It is nothing new really, but I seriously need to stop this.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I have been given a cool off ban for less than what is in this thread. I am not disagreeing with anyone here. I am simply saying that y'all need to be very careful in who and what you criticize.

Hmm. Providing there are no personal attacks, we ought to be free to discuss this. The notion of disallowing all discussion and questioning and concern is preposterous. Have never seen any announcement that said anything to that effect, so it shouldn't be a problem. If and when that becomes the paradigm, though, it'll be time for everyone to shake the dust off their feet once and for all

I hope you're ok ((((Lisa))))

 

[Lisa0315]

Hmm. Providing there are no personal attacks, we ought to be free to discuss this. The notion of disallowing all discussion and questioning and concern is preposterous. Have never seen any announcement that said anything to that effect, so it shouldn't be a problem. If and when that becomes the paradigm, though, it'll be time for everyone to shake the dust off their feet once and for all

I hope you're ok ((((Lisa))))

I will go check to see if any of the several were attacking the rules only, or if I got personal with all of them. I honestly do not remember as I was spiking at the time.

Lisa