Catholicism Questions

[Rhamiel]

Also, the five-pointed star is a favorite of the Mormons, who have them all over the Salt Lake Temple, which was constructed before the Wiccans got a hold of it.

also sometimes the 5 pointed star was used to represent the 5 wounds Christ received on the cross, 2 hands, 2 feet and a spear in His side
I do not know why they did not count the crown of thorns as a wound?

because He did not receive it on the cross or because it was non-lethal?

 

[WisdomTree]

also sometimes the 5 pointed star was used to represent the 5 wounds Christ received on the cross, 2 hands, 2 feet and a spear in His side
I do not know why they did not count the crown of thorns as a wound?

because He did not receive it on the cross or because it was non-lethal?

Christ suffered many wounds, including the whips and other forms of abuses. I think the five wounds (which is represented by the five fingers when signing ourselves in Western Christianity) is supposed to be the five wounds suffered at the cross.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

So, Christianity has used those symbols for 2000 years and because some Satanist started using them over the past 100 years Christianity should stop using them? Should we stop using the upright cross if they started using it?

Don't define a religious object by what someone else believes, define it the way the Church that uses it does.

To answer your question, yes. We do that all the time.

That's kind of a bass ackward way of looking at things if you ask me!

If a word or term becomes offensive, we stop using it even if it wasn't offensive a hundred years ago. But satanism wouldn't use an upright cross. A broken or upside down cross is a rejection of Jesus(YAHUSHUA).same with a bent or twist cross.

This logic would follow... Since satanists have rituals that mock Christian worship, we should maybe stop Christian worship.

And why display the cross St Peter was executed on. His death had know power.st Peter death didnt atone for sins like Jesus(YAHUSHUA). The only cross that should be on display is the one of our messiah.

The inverted Cross and crossed keys; both symbolic iconography for St. Peter are often found in Lutheran Churches as well, particularly those Churches dedicated in St. Peter's name. We commemorate St. Peters crucifixion because not only did he set an example for all Christians of humility by not wishing to die as Christ did, but he also set an example for us in that he remained faithful even unto death. The crossed keys remind us of the Confession of St. Peter, who, when asked said to Jesus "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God"; the keys also symbolize the power and authority given by Christ to the Church, to not only govern itself, but to forgive sins. We Lutherans teach and believe that the Confession of St. Peter is the "Rock" which the Church is built upon. (My Catholic friends would disagree somewhat).

These symbols are not anti-Christian, they all point to Christ!

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

Hello - I have a question - Paul tells us that a man with long hair is shameful (1Cor 11:14)

why do your pictures and statues of Jesus show him with long hair and make him shameful?

 

[PaladinValer]

Hello - I have a question - Paul tells us that a man with long hair is shameful (1Cor 11:14)

why do your pictures and statues of Jesus show him with long hair and make him shameful?

Most Protestant ones do as well.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

Most Protestant ones do as well.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Ahhh but I don't go to a church and this Still would have NOTHING to do with any pot and kettle but what the word says..... So you both have Him in shame

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

The pope wears a hat called the mitre - on it he has the star of David

yet God condemns this star as the star of remphan in acts 7:43
also condemed in Amos 5:26

the Israelites brought this out of egypt along with the golden calf moloch.

So my question is: why would the pope wear the star of remphan?

While were on the mitre - why is it also modeled after the hat worn by Dagon priest?

 

[PaladinValer]

Ahhh but I don't go to a church

That doesn't change the point; Straw Man.

and this Still would have NOTHING to do with any pot and kettle but what the word says..... So you both have Him in shame

The point is, you are a Protestant by virtue of being Non-denominational. As such, to point fingures at Catholics, be they of the Vatican, Canterbury, Utrecht, Constantinople, or Alexandria, is hypocritical.

The pope wears a hat called the mitre - on it he has the star of David

yet God condemns this star as the star of remphan in acts 7:43
also condemed in Amos 5:26

the Israelites brought this out of egypt along with the golden calf moloch.

So my question is: why would the pope wear the star of remphan?

While were on the mitre - why is it also modeled after the hat worn by Dagon priest?

No proof given. Furthermore, the miter is worn by more than just Vatican Catholics including the Eastern Orthodox, whose miters look totally different. In reality, the miter is a derivative of the imperial official headdress.

Nothing more than psuedohistory and anti-anything sounding Catholic unsubstantiated, anti-intellectual venom. Nothing new and all debunked ad nauseam.

 

[Rhamiel]

I am not familiar with a star being on the mitre, there have been many mitres over the centuries, most of them do not have starts, I will have to look up this reference in acts 7:43
I think the star is often used to symbolize David and Solomon

the mitre did not evolve from Dagon worship
it started out as a stylized headdress worn in greek byzantine courts. to show scholarly class or advisors or something like that

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

I am not familiar with a star being on the mitre, there have been many mitres over the centuries, most of them do not have starts, I will have to look up this reference in acts 7:43
I think the star is often used to symbolize David and Solomon

the mitre did not evolve from Dagon worship
it started out as a stylized headdress worn in greek byzantine courts. to show scholarly class or advisors or something like that

but the dragon priest were before the Byzantines.... They were priest for the phillistines - so the question remains...


Type in mitre and star of David to see the hat in question

 

[PaladinValer]

but the dragon priest were before the Byzantines.... They were priest for the phillistines - so the question remains...

You have not linked Dagon to the Roman court. Your argument is null and void.

Type in mitre and star of David to see the hat in question

All I see is psuedohistory and conspiracy theory and I should know - I AM A HISTORIAN.

 

[Rhamiel]

but the dragon priest were before the Byzantines.... They were priest for the phillistines - so the question remains...


Type in mitre and star of David to see the hat in question

philistines had hats
Byzantines had hats

does not mean they are related
Nazis wore suits
modern evangelical preachers wear suits
does not mean they are related

the Byzantine and the Phillistine cultures were unrelated, any similarities are just random happenstance

 

[Albion]

The pope wears a hat called the mitre - on it he has the star of David

yet God condemns this star as the star of remphan in acts 7:43
also condemed in Amos 5:26

Every bishop in the world--of various churches--has a number of mitres which he wears, depending upon the occasion. I've seen a number of the ones the Pope has worn, but never the one you refer to, so whatever is on it cannot be particularly critical to him.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I think it's this one that is being talked about. Christ is from David's line; the star of David points to Christ; what's the big deal?

The triangles represent the Trinity.

Jack the ripper wore shoes; the Pope wore shoes; the Pope therefore advocates murderous butchery. ...Yes, the allegations about the stars on Benedict's Mitre is just as absurd as the one I made about his shoes.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

BTW, this article talks about the symbolism of the six pointed star; and addresses the claims made by hate-mongers.

The Judeo/Christian Tradition - Introduction to the Pope's Star of David on Top of His Head

 

[PaladinValer]

That star has been a symbol of the Most Blessed Trinity for a long time.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

That star has been a symbol of the Most Blessed Trinity for a long time.

Yup, triangles=trinity; two of them for the two natures of Christ.

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

You have not linked Dagon to the Roman court. Your argument is null and void.



All I see is psuedohistory and conspiracy theory and I should know - I AM A HISTORIAN.

Ahhh what I am doing is making a case..... Building a puzzle

the fact that the Byzantines hat had no open tops - fact is it has been made ino the same design worn by Dagon priest - not to mention that Dagon hats also had cope running down the back same as the pope but not same as Byzantines..... Hmmmm a pattern develops.


One piece does not a puzzle make - I have more

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

I think it's this one that is being talked about. Christ is from David's line; the star of David points to Christ; what's the big deal?

The triangles represent the Trinity.

Jack the ripper wore shoes; the Pope wore shoes; the Pope therefore advocates murderous butchery. ...Yes, the allegations about the stars on Benedict's Mitre is just as absurd as the one I made about his shoes.

Simply amazing - the bible Condemns this star and you then say what? Really


God condemns the star of David because it really is the star of remphan and you see nothing wrong with pope wearing the star to His god remphan...

Wow you people can disown anything - see when you becomes foolish (about the shoes above) it shows you backpedal....

God codemns the star of David which your pope then puts that condemned star on his mitre.... You guys are a laugh... Face it the pope wear a condemned symbol of satans creation....

 

[KNOWLEDGE BOMB]

That star has been a symbol of the Most Blessed Trinity for a long time.

The star of David is not a symbol of The trinity - geeez God condemns it HELLO

Acts 17:29-30 tells us that we are NOT to think that the Godhead is like gold silver stone or graven art and Mans device

and the Times of this IGNORANCE God winked at BUT Now commandeth all men everywhere to repent.....