Catholic University hosts transgender and drag queen book display for children

[Pommer]

Yes! This is why so called treatment for minors should be illegal!

Not every one gets the drive to “reproduce”, most do, but a significant number of us aren’t compelled to make little versions of ourselves, and if transgender people are indeed, “mentally ill”, then (if some had their way) they’d all be out here raising children with at least one mentally ill parent, in a nation with no comprehensive medical system.
O, brave new world!

 

[Belk]

She was 15. Not old enough to marry, vote or go in the military, but can be manipulated into irreversible surgery.

How does one go about reversing a circumcision? How old does that normally happen? Selective outrage is selective.

 

[stevevw]

I don't think so.

I think so. For example a large % of those who display gender incongruence are gays and lesbians and those with Autism. Then theres those who reject themselves, their bodies due to childhood psychological trauma.

Then there are those with autogynephilia where males can display very similar feelings and beliefs about being a women except its due to a sexual desire which has been misplaced.

On top of that we have children who are easily influenced and young people who are already going through a confusing and questioning time which is normal but they too can be easily influenced displaying similar feelings and beliefs.

Then there are those who may have a chemical anomely where the brain sexed hormones have to developed in line with their physical sex. Lest there are those who seem to identify as the opposite sex especially males for other reasons because they can and will use this to their advantage.

All these different groups can display similar feelings and beliefs and its very hard to tell whether they are trans or not especially at a young age. The fact that a large part of the measure is self determination based on feelings and beliefs should ring alarm bells as to the lack of objective basis which has a high chance of producing a high rate of false positives.

We know this because the majority of those disagnosed as trans turn out to be gay or have some menbtal disorder like Autism and that around 85% of those expressing the very same feelings and beliefs grew out of those feelings and beliefs with time.

 

[BCP1928]

I think so. For example a large % of those who display gender incongruence are gays and lesbians and those with Autism. Then theres those who reject themselves, their bodies due to childhood psychological trauma.

Then there are those with autogynephilia where males can display very similar feelings and beliefs about being a women except its due to a sexual desire which has been misplaced.

On top of that we have children who are easily influenced and young people who are already going through a confusing and questioning time which is normal but they too can be easily influenced displaying similar feelings and beliefs.

Then there are those who may have a chemical anomely where the brain sexed hormones have to developed in line with their physical sex. Lest there are those who seem to identify as the opposite sex especially males for other reasons because they can and will use this to their advantage.

All these different groups can display similar feelings and beliefs and its very hard to tell whether they are trans or not especially at a young age. The fact that a large part of the measure is self determination based on feelings and beliefs should ring alarm bells as to the lack of objective basis which has a high chance of producing a high rate of false positives.

We know this because the majority of those disagnosed as trans turn out to be gay or have some menbtal disorder like Autism and that around 85% of those expressing the very same feelings and beliefs grew out of those feelings and beliefs with time.

Whoever wrote that is certainly an ignorant sex pervert. I hope it wasn't you.

 

[Chrystal-J]

How does one go about reversing a circumcision? How old does that normally happen? Selective outrage is selective.

Does that make someone sterile?

 

[Belk]

Does that make someone sterile?

Is the irreversible surgery only incorrect if it makes you sterile? Clitoral clipping is OK because you can still procreate?

 

[Chrystal-J]

Is the irreversible surgery only incorrect if it makes you sterile? Clitoral clipping is OK because you can still procreate?

That's not a Christian practice, so of coarse I'm against it. Circumcision isn't a Christian practice either for that matter.

 

[Belk]

That's not a Christian practice, so of coarse I'm against it. Circumcision isn't a Christian practice either for that matter.

So the issue you have with the Trans surgery has nothing to do with it being irreversible or causing sterility but that it is not Christian?

 

[Chrystal-J]

So the issue you have with the Trans surgery has nothing to do with it being irreversible or causing sterility but that it is not Christian?

No, I feel that anything that hurts a person and is irreversible is a bad thing. Especially to a child.

 

[RileyG]

Not every one gets the drive to “reproduce”, most do, but a significant number of us aren’t compelled to make little versions of ourselves, and if transgender people are indeed, “mentally ill”, then (if some had their way) they’d all be out here raising children with at least one mentally ill parent, in a nation with no comprehensive medical system.
O, brave new world!

Plenty of mentally Ill people have children. What’s your point?

 

[Belk]

No, I feel that anything that hurts a person and is irreversible is a bad thing. Especially to a child.

Then your statements about circumcision appear to be a non sequitur.

 

[stevevw]

I don't think so.

What do you mean. You don't sound very confident. We would want to be confident in diagnoses considering the potential consequences of getting it wrong. Like any disagnosis we need some objective basis to determine whats what.

We would not diagnose say someone with any other disorder based on the patients subjective feelings or beliefs alone. The human mind has great capacity to delude itself.

So what are the clinical tests we can do to determine that a person is truely gender dysphoric to the point where we can say objectively they are trans. Or someone who may feel and believe this due to other reasons and will grow out of that feeling and belief as many have done.

 

[stevevw]

I don't think the trans and gender ideology is just about trans. The ideology has been an evolving idea for some decades growing out of the 60's revolutions and then entering academia into the Critial theories and then into the institutions and now mainstream society.

In other words this is a constructed idea just like Marxism or Feminism are constructed ideas and not a natural evolution of thought. Its about using nobel causes which we all believe in but then sneeking in ideas about reality at the same time. Reconstructing meaning, word meanings, language, narratives and discourses into a certain way of thinking which is slowly imposed on society through the institutions.

Drag Queen events is part of that reconstruction. Fundementally the belief is there is no innate self and humans can reconstruct themselves and society in the process into a new world order according to the high priests ideologues and activists who have managed to gain influence.

If you notice with all these political ideas like feminism and queer ideologies which are often tied to a fomr of Marxism is that they are all directly opposed to the Christian beliefs and values which our nations were founded on and are destructive in that they are about breaking down society such as the family, the value of life with abortion, biological reality, same sex relations which all deminish human flourishing.

The reality is that a new religion has filled the void in which GOd once stood and what we are seeing is how this new ideology is playing out and its not a pretty picture. Its certainlt nowhere near as rational, moral and stable as Gods order for hiumankind.

 

[stevevw]

Whoever wrote that is certainly an ignorant sex pervert. I hope it wasn't you.

Then your calling most medical professionals perverts lol. And why do you always turn things into a personal jibe at the messager. I think you were all for DEI. Calling a large % of the population and most medical experts perverts is not a very inclusive way to treat those with different beliefs and views.

You never actually discuss the evidence and keep shooting the messengers. Thats usually a sign that someone has no rational for their position but rather its about some ideological belief based on unfounded assumptions about human nature and reality itself and how we should order things. Which is basically a political ideology and not reality.

If you dispute what has been said then offer some reasoning and evidence and we can then work out whether its ignorance of based on the evidence. But don't just make accertions and then have a dig at the person presenting the evidence.

You could have asked which most people would do is to ask 'what is the evidence for what you say'. Its not hard to do. I may be wrong but we will never know if we don't get past the name calling.

 

[BCP1928]

I think so. For example a large % of those who display gender incongruence are gays and lesbians and those with Autism. Then theres those who reject themselves, their bodies due to childhood psychological trauma.

Citation?

Then there are those with autogynephilia where males can display very similar feelings and beliefs about being a women except its due to a sexual desire which has been misplaced.

Very interesting. So what?

On top of that we have children who are easily influenced and young people who are already going through a confusing and questioning time which is normal but they too can be easily influenced displaying similar feelings and beliefs.

Right. This is basically the "Drag Queens can turn kids gay by reading to them" fantasy. It is a perverted fantasy.

Then there are those who may have a chemical anomely where the brain sexed hormones have to developed in line with their physical sex. Lest there are those who seem to identify as the opposite sex especially males for other reasons because they can and will use this to their advantage.

Right. This is basically the "men are only pretending to be trans so they can sneak into the women's locker room to ogle them" fantasy. It is a perverted fantasy

All these different groups can display similar feelings and beliefs and its very hard to tell whether they are trans or not especially at a young age. The fact that a large part of the measure is self determination based on feelings and beliefs should ring alarm bells as to the lack of objective basis which has a high chance of producing a high rate of false positives.

If true (citation?) it is of no doubt of concern to clinicians. Why you think it is any of your business is a question. You will never be in a position to judge who is "really trans" or not.

We know this because the majority of those diagnosed as trans turn out to be gay or have some mental disorder like Autism and that around 85% of those expressing the very same feelings and beliefs grew out of those feelings and beliefs with time.

Citation?

 

[Whyayeman]

I don't think the trans and gender ideology is just about trans.

If there is an ideology it is that of people who are trying to politicise the issue. The government of the UK tried to ban puberty blockers on the shaky evidence that it was harmful. One result was a rise in suicides and self harm among young people whose treatment was prevented. Happily, the minister responsible is no longer in charge - or in government.

The issue is serious and requires a more nuanced approach than blanket statements arising from a dogmatic insistence that biological sex is the only determinant of people's sense of themselves.

 

[BCP1928]

Then your calling most medical professionals perverts lol. And why do you always turn things into a personal jibe at the messager. I think you were all for DEI. Calling a large % of the population and most medical experts perverts is not a very inclusive way to treat those with different beliefs and views.

I didn't see any medical experts cited and whether a large percentage of the population entertains the perverted sexual fantasies presented doesn't make them any less perverted.

You never actually discuss the evidence and keep shooting the messengers. Thats usually a sign that someone has no rational for their position but rather its about some ideological belief based on unfounded assumptions about human nature and reality itself and how we should order things. Which is basically a political ideology and not reality.

That's because very little of the actual evidence you present supports your fantasies. There is no point in referring to a US government map of the Mississippi when discussing whether Tom Sawyer is a real boy.

If you dispute what has been said then offer some reasoning and evidence and we can then work out whether its ignorance of based on the evidence. But don't just make accertions and then have a dig at the person presenting the evidence.

You could have asked which most people would do is to ask 'what is the evidence for what you say'. Its not hard to do. I may be wrong but we will never know if we don't get past the name calling.

You're right. I tend not to respond to you in a very Christian fashion and I'm sorry. What put me off you was your idea that "Western Christian culture is the vessel in which Christ is to be brought to the world." That is ugly, disgusting and blasphemous and I am having a hard time forgiving you for it.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Viterbo University is a Catholic School in La Crosse, Wisconsin, and my alma mater. In the children's section of their library, they have a pride display of children's books.

One book is called "It Feels Good to Be Yourself: A Book About Gender Identity." It's designed to teach children as young 4 about concepts of transgenderism, non-binary, cisgender, etc.

Another book is called Desert Queen. It encourages boys as young as 7 to cross dressing as drag queens.

I've often seen children on campus because they have a Boys & Girls club on campus.

It's depressing to see innocent children targeted with this. I've contacted the Archbishop (I cant find the Bishop's contact) and didn't hear back. I contacted the school and just got a generic response.

Please consider joining me in contacting the Bishop and library:

Archbishop Listecki

www.archmil.org

Ask Us | Viterbo University

www.viterbo.edu

A local blog wrote about the display: Viterbo Promotes Gender Confusion in Young Children | CouleeConservatives

Oh no.

 

[Chrystal-J]

Then your statements about circumcision appear to be a non sequitur.

Glad you took a logic class. Anyway, circumcision is a Jewish practice. It's not a requirement for the Christian faith. And 'transgender' surgery is completely against Catholic doctrine.

 

[Belk]

Glad you took a logic class.

It has nothing to do with a "logic class". It simply means your inclusion of religion does not seem related to your points.

Anyway, circumcision is a Jewish practice. It's not a requirement for the Christian faith. And 'transgender' surgery is completely against Catholic doctrine.

Again, not relevant to the discussion at hand. You made statements of about harm, not about what religion the practice belongs to. Are you only against harm being caused in specific cases?